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  • tony286
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    • Aug 2002
    • 57021

    #1

    got a hardware question

    I have a hp 2511x monitor and a cheap ass video card. Im not gamer so I never spent real money on one. Im going to be doing some upgrades to my tower. When I watch frontline on my computer and make it full screen. The picture isnt sharp. If I got a better video card would that make a difference? Or does it all depend on the monitor? thx
  • Grapesoda
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    • Jul 2003
    • 46238

    #2
    take the card back if it's not doing the job

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    • vdbucks
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      • Jul 2010
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      #3
      Originally posted by tony286
      I have a hp 2511x monitor and a cheap ass video card. Im not gamer so I never spent real money on one. Im going to be doing some upgrades to my tower. When I watch frontline on my computer and make it full screen. The picture isnt sharp. If I got a better video card would that make a difference? Or does it all depend on the monitor? thx
      The lowest of low end video cards (of the past few years) should be able to handle standard HD videos without a hitch so chances are, you need a better monitor.

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      • tony286
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        • Aug 2002
        • 57021

        #4
        Thanks guys. The video card is 4 yrs old. the specs on the monitor are:
        I use the hdmi out.
        Native resolution
        1920 x 1080
        Contrast ratio
        1000:1 static; 3000000:1 dynamic
        Brightness
        250 cd/m²
        Pixel pitch
        0.011 in
        Response rate
        5 ms typical
        Signal input connectors
        VGA; DVI-D (with HDCP); HDMI (with HDCP)
        Dimensions
        23.82 x 7.26 x 17.41 in
        Weight
        11.31 lbs

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        • PornDiscounts-V
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2003
          • 5744

          #5
          What I really want to know is:

          What resolution are you running the monitor at? What kind of cable are you using to connect it to your computer?
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          • vdbucks
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            • Jul 2010
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            #6
            Originally posted by tony286
            Thanks guys. The video card is 4 yrs old. the specs on the monitor are:
            I use the hdmi out.
            Native resolution
            1920 x 1080
            Contrast ratio
            1000:1 static; 3000000:1 dynamic
            Brightness
            250 cd/m²
            Pixel pitch
            0.011 in
            Response rate
            5 ms typical
            Signal input connectors
            VGA; DVI-D (with HDCP); HDMI (with HDCP)
            Dimensions
            23.82 x 7.26 x 17.41 in
            Weight
            11.31 lbs
            4 year old video card... in that case, since you also said it's cheap, I'd go with upgrading to even a low end nvidia 6 series card (or amd if you prefer) first.

            Something like this would be great for all around price:performance: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121686

            I also just looked up your monitor, and it has pretty good overall reviews so that likely isn't culprit.

            And hell, it could very well be the videos you're watching are 720p, which is still HD, but doesn't look all that great on a 1080p screen...
            Last edited by vdbucks; 07-02-2013, 05:10 AM.

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            • PornDiscounts-V
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              • Oct 2003
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              #7
              Then, what is your graphics card? What operating system are you using?
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              • PornDiscounts-V
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                • Oct 2003
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                #8
                Originally posted by vdbucks
                4 year old video card... in that case, since you also said it's cheap, I'd go with upgrading to even a low end nvidia 6 series card (or amd if you prefer) first.

                Something like this would be great for all around price:performance: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121686
                Why would he want a Dual DVI graphics card if he has only one monitor under 27"?
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                • vdbucks
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by vvvvv
                  Why would he want a Dual DVI graphics card if he has only one monitor under 27"?
                  Most, if not all, modern cards come with some variation of multiple outputs... dual dvi, dual hdmi, display port... it's not like there's much of a choice unless you want to go backwards...

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                  • PornDiscounts-V
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                    • Oct 2003
                    • 5744

                    #10
                    Originally posted by vdbucks
                    Most, if not all, modern cards come with some variation of multiple outputs... dual dvi, dual hdmi, display port... it's not like there's much of a choice unless you want to go backwards...
                    Yeah, does seem that the med/high quality cards are putting two on them now. Hard to find a decent pixel fill rate card with only one.

                    Maybe he will get another monitor and rock out with his cock out.
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                    • vdbucks
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by vvvvv
                      Yeah, does seem that the med/high quality cards are putting two on them now. Hard to find a decent pixel fill rate card with only one.

                      Maybe he will get another monitor and rock out with his cock out.
                      Yeah... sign of the times. The days of $50 videos cards are pretty much gone.

                      As it is right now, I could run 6 monitors together from my PC... from from the video card and another 2 from the onboard intel 4000 if I really wanted. Can't say how bad the performance would be from doing so as I only hooked up 4 (2 on gpu and 2 onboard) just to test if it would work... I'd need a multiple monitor mount if I want to run more than 2 full time.. and as of right now, I can't see myself shelling out $400+ for a monitor stand. The choice is there though nonetheless heh... sign of the times.

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                      • tony286
                        lurker
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 57021

                        #12
                        Originally posted by vvvvv
                        Then, what is your graphics card? What operating system are you using?
                        http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desk...geforce-gt-430 win 7 64 bit

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                        • vdbucks
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by tony286
                          Oh my...

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                          • tony286
                            lurker
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 57021

                            #14
                            Originally posted by vdbucks
                            Oh my...
                            Oh my like thats a great card? Or oh my its so old you minds well be using monochrome?

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                            • vdbucks
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by tony286
                              Oh my like thats a great card? Or oh my its so old you minds well be using monochrome?
                              Definitely not the first heh... It's pretty bad for this day and age.

                              What's your price range for a new card?

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                              • tony286
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                                • Aug 2002
                                • 57021

                                #16
                                Originally posted by vdbucks
                                Definitely not the first heh... It's pretty bad for this day and age.

                                What's your price range for a new card?
                                as low as possible lol I figure around $100 I would be comfortable. its more of a want than a need.

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                                • vdbucks
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                                  • Jul 2010
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by tony286
                                  as low as possible lol I figure around $100 I would be comfortable. its more of a want than a need.
                                  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130795
                                  or
                                  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121442

                                  Should be fine... But, you also have to consider that maybe it's not your gpu card. Are you sure the videos you're watching are 1080p and have high enough bitrate for clear playback at full resolution?

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                                  • tony286
                                    lurker
                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 57021

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by vdbucks
                                    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130795
                                    or
                                    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121442

                                    Should be fine... But, you also have to consider that maybe it's not your gpu card. Are you sure the videos you're watching are 1080p and have high enough bitrate for clear playback at full resolution?
                                    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/view/ here is an example of what I will watch online and full screen it looks weak. Thank you for your help.

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                                    • PornDiscounts-V
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                                      • Oct 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Also, are you running your monitor at the highest resolution?
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                                      • tony286
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                                        • Aug 2002
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by vvvvv
                                        Also, are you running your monitor at the highest resolution?
                                        yes I am. 1920x 1080

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                                        • PornDiscounts-V
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                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 5744

                                          #21
                                          Ahh... I see your problem.

                                          That program is in HD, but it is also only 664x336 or so in size. So it has the amount of pixels required for a crisp and clear picture if you only watch the framed version on their web page. When you grow it to by full screen you are stretching it and it will look like crap compared to a video shot in HD and with a frame size of 1900x1080.

                                          Look at this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou6_MkIvKOo

                                          Make sure to set it to 1080. It will start in 480. Once the aircraft lines are perfect pin stripes, move it to the middle of the movie where there are more cutaways. Do those look good? Did the airplanes lines become crisp in 1080? (you will click the little gear/cog icon on lower right of video).

                                          If so then you have what you need. It is just the source sucks.

                                          It may take a few seconds for the stream to catch up and actually go HD. Wait 10 seconds before judging the plane.
                                          Last edited by PornDiscounts-V; 07-02-2013, 06:40 AM.
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                                          • tony286
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                                            • Aug 2002
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by vvvvv
                                            Ahh... I see your problem.

                                            That program is in HD, but it is also only 664x336 or so in size. So it has the amount of pixels required for a crisp and clear picture if you only watch the framed version on their web page. When you grow it to by full screen you are stretching it and it will look like crap compared to a video shot in HD and with a frame size of 1900x1080.

                                            Look at this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou6_MkIvKOo

                                            Make sure to set it to 1080. It will start in 480. Once the aircraft lines are perfect pin stripes, move it to the middle of the movie where there are more cutaways. Do those look good? Did the airplanes lines become crisp in 1080? (you will click the little gear/cog icon on lower right of video).

                                            If so then you have what you need. It is just the source sucks.

                                            It may take a few seconds for the stream to catch up and actually go HD. Wait 10 seconds before judging the plane.
                                            ok it looks 100x better.

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                                            • tony286
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                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 57021

                                              #23
                                              Thanks vvvvv , I now have to think. I may still upgrade.

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