Active program program / Scandisk and Diskdefrag

[Naughty]

Hiya all,

Couple of technical questions:
When we tried to disk defrag a computer that has not been defragged for over 2 years, it keeps restarting because it says we are writing to the drive, but we have closed ALL programs, so that is weird. Does anybody know of a feature that shows all active programs on the computer in use? Even scandisk starts over and over again, without ever finishing. Pretty annoying.

Format C is not an option, at least not to us, right now

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[aleck]

stop all background services

if u got win-that-blows (98/ME) run safe mode and pray

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[Naughty]

Originally posted by aleck:
.. run safe mode and pray

Hmm, we always do cause we do indeed have Win98 SE, safe mode sounds like a plan...

[X37375787]

Lemme guess - you are using Windoze 98

Piece of shit. Happened to me all the time.

What you might try is to defrag it from DOS.

[ztik]

in normal mode: pull all networking cords, usualy makes it work for me

[baddog]

Naughty,

First off, you can not defrag Win98 from DOS, mainly because there is no true DOS included with Win98, there is a DOS mode, but you can not run defrag from there.

To find out what is running in the background, hit ctrl-alt-delete all at same time Undoubtedly you are going to find a shitload of programs running that you never heard of. The only one that needs to run is explorer. This is not the same as windows explorer, or internet explorer, and I am not going to confuse you with issues, so suffice it to say, you will see a list of files that are open, hi-lite each, one at a time, and click END TASK. You will need to go thru and do each one until the only file left is explorer. Some may need to be done twice, but you will get a response that task ended as each is ended. If you get message that it is busy or some crap, tell it to end immediately.

After you have accomplished this, you will want to run a scandisk, and before you do that, you will want to fix the default settings because they are bullshit.

Go to scandisk, click Type of Test - Standard, and make sure box to auto fix errors is checked, then go to Advanced, and make sure the following options are selected, starting with left column, top to bottom: Always, Append To Log, Delete, Free, Invalid Dates/Times, Check Host drive First. Then hit OK make sure your C drive is selected and hit start. It is important that you do this before running defrag.

For the record, you should do this weekly, once a month go from standard test to thorough test.

After scandisk completes, close it, then open defrag. Again, this should;d be done weekly.

These two programs are called routines, and are as important as changing the oil and spark plugs on your Harley. You have probably had scandisk run when you start up pc because of your improper shutdown last time you shut down. That scandisk is useless, and will never find any problem, so it is mandatory that you run these programs manually, if you want your HDD to have any longevity.



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[Gemini]

Turn off the screen saver.

[yys]

Originally posted by Gemini:
Turn off the screen saver.

I second this one as it's happened to me a few times. It really sucks when you let it go all night and wake up and move the mouse and the shit has to start all over again.

[baddog]

yes most definately turn it off, especially since you have not defragged in 2 years, will probably take a while. good thinking Gemini

but you probably already knew that



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[Amputate Your Head]

Taskman.... shut it all down except the shell.

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[X37375787]

Hmmm... I actually thought there was a DOS version of defrag in \tools\oldmsdos on the Win98SE CD.

Guess I was wrong then.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by Equinox:
Hmmm... I actually thought there was a DOS version of defrag in \tools\oldmsdos on the Win98SE CD.

You thought wrong. Besides... who the hell is still using that old ass prehistoric OS anyway...?



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[yys]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head:

You thought wrong. Besides... who the hell is still using that old ass prehistoric OS anyway...?
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Me
It's one of the OS's I use.

[pornhoster]

Originally posted by baddog:
The only one that needs to run is explorer...

SYSTRAY needs to be kept running as well
all other programs can be safely closed.

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[Osholio]

Originally posted by Equinox:
Hmmm... I actually thought there was a DOS version of defrag in \tools\oldmsdos on the Win98SE CD.

Guess I was wrong then.

Do not use any MS-DOS defrag utility on a windows 9x system. A friend of mine was also complaining his defrag was going to take about 10 years to finish, so he remembered the defrag utility from MS-DOS 6.1 so he booted using a boot disk and ran that.

It defragged his system nice and quick...

And destroyed all the long file names, and most of the short ones too...

And Windows would no longer boot..

And I got dragged in to fix it, as best I could.

It wasn't pretty, I can tell you.


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[Naughty]

Thanks all, seems we are going to have a computer runnig tonight

BTW: We do run defrag every week on the newer sh*t, just this old box always took too long, so we didn't do it at all for all those years


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[baddog]

Originally posted by pornhoster:
SYSTRAY needs to be kept running as well
all other programs can be safely closed.

Hmmmm, how can I put this in a way that will not insult, yet get the message across, oh yeah, Bullshit. Do you know what the Systray is/does? Your volume control icon is there, your ICQ icon is there, I think your pc will maintain its intergrity if you shut it down long enough to run some routines.

Fact is, the ONLY file that must be on to make your pc work is explorer. Not to brag or anything, but I have been working with PCs since before they had hdd, or memory, and would venture to say that I pretty much know what I am talking about, when I discuss issues computer related. Otherwise, I would not say anything.

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[This message has been edited by baddog (edited 10-16-2001).]