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[CamKing]

i like poooooo

[georgeyw]

Retox, it is time for you to put down the beer muscle and sit quietly by.

That's who he was, now it all makes sense. He will go through the same rollercoaster ride and be out of here soon enough.

[looky_lou]

51 poos---

Get off the poo shit. It's bad enough coming from Currently Sober.

[nextri]

It's not the same thing.
Plugrush have a dedicated support section on a forum run by a large scale commercial pirate which services other commercial pirates.

There has to come a point where companies take some proper corporate accountability and make a clear decision not to deliberately work with copyright infringers.

If people are getting themselves in a knot about this then just wait until we start on other forms of piracy.

The message here is clear, if you knowingly work with pirates then we're going to take you on.

If you want to make us the enemy, then that is up to you. We're not involved with piracy.

IQ69 is in no way a piracy forum. I have been a member of IQ69 since it started probably 6-7 years ago, and have done a ton of business there. It it's probably the main reason I am where I am today. That and the good old CFUS is where it all started for me. I have not been paying close attention to your witchhunt of various people and only late last week noticed your allegations of the owners of wjunction being tied to iq. It's not going to change our business decissions about representing ourself on a webmaster board we have been present at for years though. A place where there are no piracy, or discussions about monetizing piracy. The place where a huge amount of our publishers are present. The fact that we have our own subforum there is because it makes it easier for us to give support to people on the board where PlugRush came to be. We're not going to stop giving support to our users where they are active, regardless of who may own it, or what other things the owners own.
If Manwin bought gfy, should we stop giving support to our users on here as well? What would you like us to do?
And the fact that you link to a pirated copy of a private forum with a lot of personal threads, by business people who are not involved with anything piracy related, is just shameful. Why the hell would you do something like that? It's suppose to be a private forum, and the info there shouldn't be spread publicly like that.
You're no better than the pirates you hunt when you do something like that.. Go after the real enemy, don't make a bunch of innocent people victims a long the way..

[AllAboutCams]

If you want to make us the enemy, then that is up to you. We're not involved with piracy.

IQ69 is in no way a piracy forum. I have been a member of IQ69 since it started probably 6-7 years ago, and have done a ton of business there. It it's probably the main reason I am where I am today. That and the good old CFUS is where it all started for me. I have not been paying close attention to your witchhunt of various people and only late last week noticed your allegations of the owners of wjunction being tied to iq. It's not going to change our business decissions about representing ourself on a webmaster board we have been present at for years though. A place where there are no piracy, or discussions about monetizing piracy. The place where a huge amount of our publishers are present. The fact that we have our own subforum there is because it makes it easier for us to give support to people on the board where PlugRush came to be. We're not going to stop giving support to our users where they are active, regardless of who may own it, or what other things the owners own.
If Manwin bought gfy, should we stop giving support to our users on here as well? What would you like us to do?
And the fact that you link to a pirated copy of a private forum with a lot of personal threads, by business people who are not involved with anything piracy related, is just shameful. Why the hell would you do something like that? It's suppose to be a private forum, and the info there shouldn't be spread publicly like that.
You're no better than the pirates you hunt when you do something like that.. Go after the real enemy, don't make a bunch of innocent people victims a long the way..

I love working with plugrush

[AdultKing]

If you want to make us the enemy, then that is up to you. We're not involved with piracy.

Nextri, further back in the thread I said that I would reach out to you directly.

The problem is this, there are many sites using Plugrush to monetize piracy, it's endemic and systemic.

One example I am in the middle of working on is http://fullvidxxx.com

It's got thousands of links to infringing files hosted on file lockers and Plugrush plugs on every page, even an affiliate link.

There are many such examples and on Wednesday you're going to receive a batch of them to look at.

All we want to do is prevent pirates from monetizing their piracy. All we want you to do is shut off the pirates and not pay them.

[seeandsee]

This fight is megalomantic, who will win?

[nextri]

Your intentions and what your goal is, is not the problem. I support that. But I've already told you in a previous threat how to reach us, and how to report these things. I do not understand why you felt the need to create this thread, if it's not for anything other than to create drama, or insinuate that we support piracy or that there is some bigger plot here that you are trying to reveal. I also do not understand your need to publicly post a link to a pirated version of a 100% legal legit business discussion board, that has had all it's private content stolen..
You also said that IQ is being run with the intent of servicing piracy webmasters. That is clearly not the case.

We can work with you and take your reports and deal with them, but there is no need for these type of threads to get answers when you can easily just hit me up and ask whatever you want to know.

[Killswitch]

You also said that IQ is being run with the intent of servicing piracy webmasters. That is clearly not the case.

I'd like to see proof of these allegations by AdultKing or request the banning of him for false allegations.

All he's doing is grasping at straws and flinging shit hoping to get something to stick, and in the meantime harming perfectly good businesses.

[adultmobile]

Maybe you should start calling out other ad-networks as well, because everyone that uses us has more than likely uses other ad-networks. Also, those ad-networks post on IQ69 as well....

Adultking making threads for plugrush like he discovered something big, instead of simply writing plugrush directly, it is unnecessary and letting look adultking like a beginner in advert networks, which I suppose he is (no offense). In fact Plugrush is not the main or bigger trading of pirate traffic out there, I buy from all networks due to my job and I can say that from some million hits http referers analisys (that I do normally for my job and not to bust pirates). Also I posted in adultking thread (the proper place) a number of specific 100% pirate links served by other (non plugrush) networks, plus some direct buys made by well knowsn cam or else programs in torrent sites, and he replied everyone except my posts - in particular AdultKing have eyes only for that iq board, kaktuz and that "pirate ring", quite inoring bigger volume things going on and even reported in his own thread.

[Harmon]

Plugrush is legit, see sig

[fris]

With all due respect, you are active on two forums owned by a large scale commercial pirate run with the intent of servicing piracy webmasters.

WJunction.com is owned by Kaktuz and is run with the intent of servicing piracy web masters, most of the sites owned by people on that forum are copyright infringing.

It's not good business to be courting pirates, because that's how you end up with pirates on your network.

I don't expect Plugrush to know about every pirate using their service but you should also take some responsibility and not promote your service on forums that almost exclusively cater to the piracy community.

did kaktuz buy wjunction?

[georgeyw]

Your intentions and what your goal is, is not the problem. I support that. But I've already told you in a previous threat how to reach us, and how to report these things. I do not understand why you felt the need to create this thread, if it's not for anything other than to create drama, or insinuate that we support piracy or that there is some bigger plot here that you are trying to reveal. I also do not understand your need to publicly post a link to a pirated version of a 100% legal legit business discussion board, that has had all it's private content stolen..
You also said that IQ is being run with the intent of servicing piracy webmasters. That is clearly not the case.

We can work with you and take your reports and deal with them, but there is no need for these type of threads to get answers when you can easily just hit me up and ask whatever you want to know.

The thing is, if you have piracy sites, I want to know as their traffic is worthless .

[edgeprod]

Your intentions and what your goal is, is not the problem. I support that. But I've already told you in a previous threat how to reach us, and how to report these things.

The intent of the thread seems aimed not at solving the problems, but at smearing the companies involved. Sorry, AK, nothing personal here, just calling it as I see it. To clarify, did you send your reports to the companies as they've asked in the past, and not had success? Then, upping the ante might have been more reasonable. Giving you the benefit of the doubt here out of the respect I have for you from previous posts.

[seXXXhub]

AdultKing needs some pussy .. he feels so lonely ...

[trevesty]

The thing is, if you have piracy sites, I want to know as their traffic is worthless .

I've always converted it pretty easily, but it's how you do the sale.... not always just about the source.

[CamKing]

AdultKing needs some pussy .. he feels so lonely ...

yes and now his bj partner is in jail

[georgeyw]

I've always converted it pretty easily, but it's how you do the sale.... not always just about the source.

Yup congrats to you, not like I did not expect someone to pipe up with this type of bs.

Naturally there will be conversions, however they are fewer and further between ie cost outweighs return = worthless. The traffic has a different mindset

[ErectMedia]

good old CFUS is where it all started for me.

+1

[Killswitch]

+1

Damn, who were you on CFUS? I started out there too (if you don't know who I am, which ironically all CFUS users remember me)

[trevesty]

Yup congrats to you, not like I did not expect someone to pipe up with this type of bs.

Naturally there will be conversions, however they are fewer and further between ie cost outweighs return = worthless. The traffic has a different mindset

Yeah, I don't get involved in childish flame wars on the internet. That was meant as a helpful hint. Believe whatever you want. I do what the numbers tell me.

A couple of years ago, I "leaked" a few torrents to trackers(..... and I was legally able to do so) with a watermark on the videos to a URL solely for tracking that, as well as links where allowed.

I'm sure you think 1:100000000000 is what the results were. More in the ball park of about 1:120, but... it was in the sale... and the content being good. Took me 20 minutes to do that test. Made about $900.


But the traffic doesn't convert, ever, and the world is ending this month.. right?

[trevesty]

There are quite a few affiliates who spam big trackers with videos and links somehow attached to them, etc., and they make good money.

Pretty black hat way to go about your business, but it still works... just because it hasn't worked for you or you've not tried it doesn't mean it's "bs". Personally, I got out of the black hat game quite some time ago.. but still have plenty of friends on that side of the fence.

[trevesty]

Baffles me on the depths people will go to explain themselves especially, if they've done nothing wrong?

Here's some business advice for the future. NEVER explain yourself to anyone because your friends, family, and business associates don't need one, as your enemies or competition won't believe it.

Wisdom.

[Plugrush]

Baffles me on the depths people will go to explain themselves especially, if they've done nothing wrong?

Here's some business advice for the future. NEVER explain yourself to anyone because your friends, family, and business associates don't need an explenation, as your enemies or competition won't believe it anyway.

It would be far worse if we just ignored the thread and didn't explain anything...I believe we did a good job

BTW, I like Sun Tzu too

[georgeyw]

Yeah, I don't get involved in childish flame wars on the internet. That was meant as a helpful hint. Believe whatever you want. I do what the numbers tell me.

A couple of years ago, I "leaked" a few torrents to trackers(..... and I was legally able to do so) with a watermark on the videos to a URL solely for tracking that, as well as links where allowed.

I'm sure you think 1:100000000000 is what the results were. More in the ball park of about 1:120, but... it was in the sale... and the content being good. Took me 20 minutes to do that test. Made about $900.


But the traffic doesn't convert, ever, and the world is ending this month.. right?

There are quite a few affiliates who spam big trackers with videos and links somehow attached to them, etc., and they make good money.

Pretty black hat way to go about your business, but it still works... just because it hasn't worked for you or you've not tried it doesn't mean it's "bs". Personally, I got out of the black hat game quite some time ago.. but still have plenty of friends on that side of the fence.

I am so sick of the egos around here.

Read and comprehend my first post.

All the bs above is a waste of your time - I want a certain type of traffic for a certain thing. Your interjection to explain your awesomeness is like you jumping up and down stamping your feet yelling 'look at me, look at me, look at me'. Congrats if you want that traffic, I do NOT - get it?

[CamKing]

this whole forums a waste

[trevesty]

I am so sick of the egos around here.

Read and comprehend my first post.

All the bs above is a waste of your time - I want a certain type of traffic for a certain thing. Your interjection to explain your awesomeness is like you jumping up and down stamping your feet yelling 'look at me, look at me, look at me'. Congrats if you want that traffic, I do NOT - get it?

Absolutely.

[cruxop]

Baffles me on the depths people will go to explain themselves especially, if they've done nothing wrong?

Here's some business advice for the future. NEVER explain yourself to anyone because your friends, family, and business associates don't need an explenation, as your enemies or competition won't believe it anyway.

My 2 cents.... you can't really split the world into two categories: enemies and allies.

The great mass of people are neither now, but can be swayed to one side or the other.

I think PlugRush did a good thing by explaining themselves because everyone who wasn't biased previously now can hear both sides of the story.

[Plugrush]

Wait, isn't PlugRush a Norwegian company trying to suck traffic from American porn consumers? In short, American webmaster competition?

We have an office in Norway yes, and two of the owners are in Norway, but I am in Texas, born and raised here. Yeeeee hawww