Good CC Processor Without Visa Fee ($750)

[Platinum Lantern]

Looking for a good credit card processor to test out my ebony paysite for a few months before I go ahead and pick epoch or ccbill for my webmaster program.

Looking for someone who you guys use or have used that did good for your sites...

Just not in a hurry to drop out $750 for something I'm not exactly sure is going to make money like I expect it to.

Your input is appreciated...

[jact]

You don't pay per site, you pay per IPSP, so what're you risking by paying the $750? Nothing. If this site doesn't work, start another one, you won't pay the $750 again.

[Snake Doctor]

Good CC Processor Without Visa Fee ($750)

Those two terms are mutually exclusive.

[Kimmykim]

Originally posted by Lenny2
Good CC Processor Without Visa Fee ($750)

Those two terms are mutually exclusive.

Damned if you didn't beat me to that one sugar...

[basschick]

acpay is backed by adultcheck. i don't use them, but i hear good things.

globill is weird, but seems honest, and they also don't charge the fee.

[Jakke PNG]

I'm considering yambo.biz myself. But you have to (apparently) pay for the affiliates script if you want affiliates.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by Kimmykim


Damned if you didn't beat me to that one sugar...

I like it when you call me sugar.

How come you weren't calling me sugar when you were here in New Orleans?

[PostWhore]

globill

[Kimmykim]

Originally posted by Lenny2


I like it when you call me sugar.

How come you weren't calling me sugar when you were here in New Orleans?

Hahaha, cause I was too busy hobbling all over the place

[cotsios]

ccbilleu.com

[some_idiot]

Gotta say GloBill is your biggest bang for the saved buck.

ACPay if you can stand doing with phone billing, or service
within 4 hours.

You'd be suprised how fast you make up that fee when you're
not scrubbed to hell through.

[xxxinnovations]

www.acpay.com

[Soteko]

You'd be suprised how fast you make up that fee when you're
not scrubbed to hell through.

Why are you just keep up saying that processors that have not VISA fee, are scrubbing to much.

Is this true? Someone has experience with this...

As for processor take ACPay!

[PANTYHOSE PROPHET]

I've been using GloBill without any problems.

[scooby doo as scooby does]

Globill all the way.

[ZoiNk]

Originally posted by Soteko


Why are you just keep up saying that processors that have not VISA fee, are scrubbing to much.

Is this true? Someone has experience with this...

As for processor take ACPay!

Everyone scrubs too much, most processors won't even tell you their banned country lists. There are 30-50 countries easily that are instantly denied just by the country the person claims they are from on the CC form.
ZoiNk

[AOLGuy]

Why not test it out as a PROAdult Quantum site?

Easy sell too, given all their good Quantum features. It also benefits from 90%+ retention month to month.

See link in sig!

[thewebgarage]

try acpay. I posted a link with my referal code :P


https://clients.acpay.com/signup.acp?1270

[Brad Mitchell]

The last IPSP that didn't charge $750 just went tits up. That's bad math to me.

Brad

[Kimmykim]

Originally posted by SinEmpire
The last IPSP that didn't charge $750 just went tits up. That's bad math to me.

Brad

That wasnt the last one that didnt charge OR the last one thats going tits up Brad ;)

[steffie]

http://www.verotel.com

xoxox

[Brad Mitchell]

Originally posted by Kimmykim


That wasnt the last one that didnt charge OR the last one thats going tits up Brad ;)

hehehe

I'm thinking in Montreal we should start a pool betting on who is going out of business and when.

KK, are you guys going to work on integrating Epassporte with MPA2?

Cheers,

Brad

[scooby doo as scooby does]

The last IPSP that didn't charge $750 just went tits up. That's bad math to me

It might be bad math, but it's also bullshit since no one knows exactly why WSB went tits-up except their directors/liquidators. Trying to make a connection between not charging the $750 VISA fee and WSB going tits-up is, well, a disingenious attack on Globill/ACPay and other non-VISA fee chargers etc. or, as I prefer to put it, just moronic conclusion making.

[PostWhore]

see sig!!!

[SleazyDream]

maybe you should ask for a good host without paying any bandwidth fees as well? While you're at it why not ask some photographers for some exclusive content on trial before you pay for it...........

[inthestars]

I suggest Verotel, they are based in the Netherlands. I have used them for three years. You can accept credit cards, checks, or do 900 number billing. See my signature and signup!

[oxenus]

Originally posted by inthestars
I suggest Verotel, they are based in the Netherlands. I have used them for three years. You can accept credit cards, checks, or do 900 number billing. See my signature and signup!

Verotel sucks with Check authorization.

We had 20 check/subscribers
and after a 1.5 month verotel said ALL THESE WERE fraud.

I was sick and tired with them.

[Nysus]

Originally posted by SleazyDream
maybe you should ask for a good host without paying any bandwidth fees as well? While you're at it why not ask some photographers for some exclusive content on trial before you pay for it...........

Ooo.. Great idea! Any takers??

Cheers,
Matt

[max.yambo]

That wasnt the last one that didnt charge OR the last one thats going tits up Brad ;)

Kimmy,

That was funny lol

[HairToStay]

Verotel may be good if you're in the Netherlands, but I've been waiting 7 weeks for my checks that they 'supposedly' sent. They claim they must have been 'stolen'. Funny how I've gotten every other check due to me, even from International companies.

Globill
Hughes Billing

[Civic3D]

ACPay : )

[Tipsy]

Originally posted by oxenus


Verotel sucks with Check authorization.

We had 20 check/subscribers
and after a 1.5 month verotel said ALL THESE WERE fraud.

I was sick and tired with them.

Welcome to the world of accepting cheques online. It's not really just a verotel thing.

Mind You so far I've not been impressed with either the service or features (or more correctly total lack of features) offered by verotel as I was looking into using them as a backup.

My personal view would be stop being a tightass. You'll have to pay the $750 at some stage so pay it now and get it over and done with. You can then use a decent company such as ccbill and not only have a system that works but one that works the way you want it to.

[oxenus]

Originally posted by Tipsy



My personal view would be stop being a tightass. You'll have to pay the $750 at some stage so pay it now and get it over and done with. You can then use a decent company such as ccbill and not only have a system that works but one that works the way you want it to.

Could you , please, recommend good billing companies?

I need delay transactions.
And a billing company which works with The Netherland's webmaster.?

Good fraud detection, online check verification...
:-)

Thanks

[nevermind]

Originally posted by scooby doo as scooby does


It might be bad math, but it's also bullshit since no one knows exactly why WSB went tits-up except their directors/liquidators. Trying to make a connection between not charging the $750 VISA fee and WSB going tits-up is, well, a disingenious attack on Globill/ACPay and other non-VISA fee chargers etc. or, as I prefer to put it, just moronic conclusion making.

This is unbelieveable. When will you people wake the fuck up and realize that you're going to have to pay the fees to stay in business.

I believe there are problems with all of the processors, but the ones who don't charge the fees are the worst of all.

WSB sued Visa a year and a half ago and it got them absolutely NOWHERE. You think that WSB sued Visa because they had a great relationship with them?

Think again. Any processor who tries to bypass their rules IS going to be screwed and take their webmasters down with them.

To delude yourself into believing otherwise at this point IS moronic.

[SGS]

Originally posted by nevermind


This is unbelieveable. When will you people wake the fuck up and realize that you're going to have to pay the fees to stay in business.

I believe there are problems with all of the processors, but the ones who don't charge the fees are the worst of all.

WSB sued Visa a year and a half ago and it got them absolutely NOWHERE. You think that WSB sued Visa because they had a great relationship with them?

Think again. Any processor who tries to bypass their rules IS going to be screwed and take their webmasters down with them.

To delude yourself into believing otherwise at this point IS moronic.

This is as clear as the balls on a dog.

[rodme_him]

Originally posted by Tipsy


Welcome to the world of accepting cheques online. It's not really just a verotel thing.

Mind You so far I've not been impressed with either the service or features (or more correctly total lack of features) offered by verotel as I was looking into using them as a backup.

My personal view would be stop being a tightass. You'll have to pay the $750 at some stage so pay it now and get it over and done with. You can then use a decent company such as ccbill and not only have a system that works but one that works the way you want it to.

I would try Web Transaction Service http://www.achdebit.com/ .

Notice no refferal code

[Kimmykim]

Originally posted by max.yambo


Kimmy,

That was funny lol

You know what they say Max, there's truth in all humor...

[JDog]

People just need to face and realize that soon there will not be a CC processor that will waive that $750. And if they do, their going to be bringing on so many accounts they won't be able to stay in business, atleast that is my fill, because if your giving away $750 basically! ya know!

jDoG

[playa]

that 750 fee does a good job to eliminates all the newbies trying to get into the business

[Elephant_Gut]

Originally posted by oxenus


Could you , please, recommend good billing companies?

I need delay transactions.
And a billing company which works with The Netherland's webmaster.?

Good fraud detection, online check verification...
:-)

Thanks

I recommend Glo-bill. They get my highest rating. $750 or no $750 they're great! Don't let the fear-mongers scare you. Right now Glo-bill is not charging any fees. But if Visa International or whoever eventually change their rules to mimic the US, then I suppose Globill will also have to charge $750 at that point. Either way, they are my preferred processor.

If you are in Europe I would also recommend Verotel or CCBill EU. The former does not charge any fees either, last time I checked.

[loverboy]

you from iBill?

[scooby doo as scooby does]

This is unbelieveable. When will you people wake the fuck up and realize that you're going to have to pay the fees to stay in business.

Fuck me. Talk about a moron putting words into my mouth to try and prove his point. Please point out in that post (or any of my posts) where I say (with or without globill) that the fees will never have to be paid ?

Found it ?

Nope, Stage one of your education: Learn to Read.

I believe there are problems with all of the processors, but the ones who don't charge the fees are the worst of all.

Stage Two: Learn to Understand.

WSB sued Visa a year and a half ago and it got them absolutely NOWHERE. You think that WSB sued Visa because they had a great relationship with them?

No. I think WSB sued VISA because of the fines levied for excessive chargebacks. I'll repeat that. Chargebacks. A little louder so you can understand (shout louder to morons, they may understand) ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FEES.

Stage Three: Learn to Listen.

Think again. Any processor who tries to bypass their rules IS going to be screwed and take their webmasters down with them. To delude yourself into believing otherwise at this point IS moronic.

As far as I can tell, no one in this thread has supported any processor who broke/bypassed the rules. Your problem, among many it seems, is making a causal connection between 'WSB', 'not paying the fees' and 'breaking the rules'. No one knows whether a connection exists between the three, and unless you have you head up the ass of a WSB director and a VISA bigwig in your bed, you know jack shit about WSB and there problems. As do I.

Stage Four: Know your Limitations.



As I understand it. Globill process out of VISA EU. VISA EU have already decided NOT to accept and implement the regulations regarding fees implemented by VISA US. This means any bank/processor processing in the VISA EU does NOT have to register their webmasters or charge administration fees. There are no 'rules' to break or bypass regarding this. No one is saying this will never change, but to the best of my knowledge, that is currently the situation.

That fact that WSB went under, and ACPAY have decided not to absorb the fees (or whatever is up with them) is NOT an indication that non-fee charging processors are necessarily breaking or bypassing VISA rules. Too make that connection is incorrect and just plain stupid.