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  • jojojo
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Mar 2002
    • 2318

    #1

    The current Google status explained

    I have been watching Google and WW for the last 3 weeks intensively and here is what I know so far:

    On May 5th the update began and it used the data from Feb/March's Deepbot crawl instead of April's. On the non-public datacenters we began seeing those SERPS showing these old results in varioud different ways as they apparently tested several aspects of their algo and new changes that have been made to them. Over the last 20 days we have seen freshbot listings mixed in, sites completely dropped and then appear again several days later and several different datacenters feeding www and aol and yahoo.

    The PR you see is/was fluctuating between this old data's PR (from March) and the most recent PR you had.

    The backlinks you see are from the same old time frame also.

    All 9 datacenters are basically lined up now but not quite.

    www had pretty much settled today but now some other weird things are happening and it appears their is a mix of datacenters or something going on because some SERPS are changing their rankings a bit.

    There was a lot of talk that the once a month update was going to be replaced by a continual rolling update but that is now being dowplayed by 'Googleguy' (he works for Google and posts on WW)

    Originally he said they would gradually add in the new backlinks and new spam filters etc but now he is basically saying that it will happen at the next update and also to expect to see the same traditional style update each month for the next few months.

    So all that really happened is that Google went backwards a few months with their data while they tested some new things.

    On June 5-15th you will see the next update happen and should be current - using April's deepbot data but also be ranking the pages and calculating backlinks differently - in apparently a more evolved way.

    So the bottom line is - don't worry if you have dropped in rankings or out completely or anything for that matter - everything will become clear and return to where they should be very soon
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  • Nysus
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2001
    • 7817

    #2
    Cool, thanks for that.

    Cheers,
    Matt
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    Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

    See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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    • Damian_Maxcash
      So Fucking Banned
      • Oct 2002
      • 12745

      #3
      That shit scares me...... I dont know how you guys can get your heads around that stuff

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      • PornBroker
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2002
        • 686

        #4
        thanks for the info
        explains the weirdo shit happening
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        • nxventures
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2003
          • 574

          #5
          I hope it happens soon, Google isn't even useful as a search engine any more, all the sites you get back are complete and utter shit... not to mention adwords have been giving SHITTY traffic recently.
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          • adamneve
            LIVING LA VITA LOCA
            • Oct 2002
            • 13333

            #6
            thanks for the update jojo
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            • jojojo
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Mar 2002
              • 2318

              #7
              np - I'll update GFY when something significant happens
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              • funkmaster
                So Fucking Banned
                • Sep 2001
                • 7938

                #8
                Originally posted by jojojo
                I have been watching Google and WW for the last 3 weeks intensively and here is what I know so far:

                On May 5th the update began and it used the data from Feb/March's Deepbot crawl instead of April's. On the non-public datacenters we began seeing those SERPS showing these old results in varioud different ways as they apparently tested several aspects of their algo and new changes that have been made to them. Over the last 20 days we have seen freshbot listings mixed in, sites completely dropped and then appear again several days later and several different datacenters feeding www and aol and yahoo.

                The PR you see is/was fluctuating between this old data's PR (from March) and the most recent PR you had.

                The backlinks you see are from the same old time frame also.

                All 9 datacenters are basically lined up now but not quite.

                www had pretty much settled today but now some other weird things are happening and it appears their is a mix of datacenters or something going on because some SERPS are changing their rankings a bit.

                There was a lot of talk that the once a month update was going to be replaced by a continual rolling update but that is now being dowplayed by 'Googleguy' (he works for Google and posts on WW)

                Originally he said they would gradually add in the new backlinks and new spam filters etc but now he is basically saying that it will happen at the next update and also to expect to see the same traditional style update each month for the next few months.

                So all that really happened is that Google went backwards a few months with their data while they tested some new things.

                On June 5-15th you will see the next update happen and should be current - using April's deepbot data but also be ranking the pages and calculating backlinks differently - in apparently a more evolved way.

                So the bottom line is - don't worry if you have dropped in rankings or out completely or anything for that matter - everything will become clear and return to where they should be very soon
                ...I get my 65k uniques per day and this is all that matters ...

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                • jojojo
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 2318

                  #9
                  ...I get my 65k uniques per day and this is all that matters ...
                  Bling.
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                  • Shoplifter
                    Richest man in Babylon
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 5854

                    #10
                    What data center's are previewing the next results now?
                    I Like Blondes

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                    • StupidFuckingWhore
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 233

                      #11
                      Originally posted by funkmaster


                      ...I get my 65k uniques per day and this is all that matters ...
                      and you wonder why you make so much more money than some ppl? i sure hope you're making killer cash with those kinds of hits from google. wanna show me to how to?

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                      • funkmaster
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 7938

                        #12
                        Originally posted by StupidFuckingWhore

                        and you wonder why you make so much more money than some ppl? i sure hope you're making killer cash with those kinds of hits from google. wanna show me to how to?
                        ... I buy expired domains with pageranks above 3 ... link them all to doorway pages and redirect the incoming traffic ...

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                        • gruffy
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 776

                          #13
                          Originally posted by funkmaster
                          ... I buy expired domains with pageranks above 3 ... link them all to doorway pages and redirect the incoming traffic ...

                          Exactly the kind of stuff google is tweaking its algo to exclude.

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                          • StupidFuckingWhore
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 233

                            #14
                            Originally posted by gruffy



                            Exactly the kind of stuff google is tweaking its algo to exclude.
                            yeah good idea but google doesn't like doorway sites.

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                            • funkmaster
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 7938

                              #15
                              Originally posted by StupidFuckingWhore

                              yeah good idea but google doesn't like doorway sites.
                              ... correct, my tricks stopped working today ... watch out sleazy, I´ll get into TGP now !!

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                              • gruffy
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 776

                                #16
                                Originally posted by StupidFuckingWhore

                                yeah good idea but google doesn't like doorway sites.

                                Just certain types of doorways.

                                I'm not preaching but I'm just saying, its a hell of a thing to try to rank "ethically" and stay there when they keep rewarding spam and punishing real sites with content.

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                                • Rockhound
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 334

                                  #17
                                  might explain why my site dropped again in google ... used to be #1 for "busty babes" and is now around 11
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                                  • Bill8
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2001
                                    • 1901

                                    #18
                                    ---------
                                    I'm not preaching but I'm just saying, its a hell of a thing to try to rank "ethically" and stay there when they keep rewarding spam and punishing real sites with content.
                                    ---------

                                    Ain't that the truth. Very little that google has done has kept people from exploiting the pagerank of nonadult domains to push no content FPAs to the top of the serps.

                                    ethics are clearly a liability in the SE game.

                                    Anybody think this update has less spam than the epast updates?

                                    Thanks for the report jojojo.

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                                    • jojojo
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 2318

                                      #19
                                      Anybody think this update has less spam than the epast updates?
                                      No, actually it appears there is more spam than their was before the current www is a mess of old data and old filters.

                                      APPARENTLY there are several new advanced spam filters that will be added prior to/during the upcoming update.

                                      I know that the new expired domain filter and hidden text filter will be added for sure.
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                                      • gruffy
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 776

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jojojo


                                        No, actually it appears there is more spam than their was before the current www is a mess of old data and old filters.

                                        APPARENTLY there are several new advanced spam filters that will be added prior to/during the upcoming update.

                                        I know that the new expired domain filter and hidden text filter will be added for sure.

                                        Their filters are pretty scary. I still see very basic cloaking sitting in the ranks for months on end.

                                        This "expired domain filter" thing sounds interesting. Any confirmed details from google?

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                                        • benthompson
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2002
                                          • 553

                                          #21
                                          No signature.. I am bored of the signatures aswell..

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                                          • jojojo
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Mar 2002
                                            • 2318

                                            #22
                                            This "expired domain filter" thing sounds interesting. Any confirmed details from google
                                            Yes. Google has a representative from their company who posts in webmasterworld.com's 'Google News' forum. He is Google's direct source for conveying information and working witht webmasters in terms of SEO details, etc.
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                                            • Webby
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 14956

                                              #23
                                              Mmmm... I can't see Google having any inclination to give "private" info out on the operation of the engine to anyone other than their "Ari Fleischer" - and that ain't gonna count for half a dime's worth of info
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                                              • jojojo
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Mar 2002
                                                • 2318

                                                #24
                                                Mmmm... I can't see Google having any inclination to give "private" info out on the operation of the engine to anyone other than their "Ari Fleischer" - and that ain't gonna count for half a dime's worth of info
                                                It's not private info. They supply the SEO community with as much information as they feel we require. Head over to webmasterworld and you can learn more about what Google is doing and saying.
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                                                • Webby
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 14956

                                                  #25
                                                  Hi jojojo

                                                  Yes, understand! Did not intend to decry your comments - they are appreciated!

                                                  My comment was kinda answered by your reply:
                                                  "They supply the SEO community with as much information as they feel we require."
                                                  XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                  • funkmaster
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                    • 7938

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jojojo
                                                    I know that the new expired domain filter and hidden text filter will be added for sure.
                                                    ... you seem to know a lot of things, but can you play google ?? I doubt it !!

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