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  • EddyTheDog
    Just Doing My Own Thing
    • Jan 2011
    • 25433

    #1

    Server experts....

    I am paying for an umanaged dedicated server with 10mb.....

    At home I have a pretty stable 20mb upload speed with a static IP and was wondering what was stopping me from setting up a server here at home and saving the money I pay for the server?

    Am I missing something?

    Also if I do that what would be a good lite Linux/Apache setup?

    Thanks

    Damian
  • AdultEUhost
    ORLY?
    • Oct 2005
    • 2579

    #2
    Upload speed? Redundancy? Security? Reliability?
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    • EddyTheDog
      Just Doing My Own Thing
      • Jan 2011
      • 25433

      #3
      Originally posted by AdultEUhost
      Upload speed? Redundancy? Security? Reliability?
      I have 20mb upload as I said - I have 10mb on the one I pay for - Its also unmanaged so security is down to me anyway.

      "Redundancy" - I see where you are coming from with that.....

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      • freecartoonporn
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2012
        • 7683

        #4
        nothing, you can start server at home.,

        back in days on dialup i had set up one , lol no kidding.

        some isp block 25 port traffic , check with yours.

        you need centos + directadmin
        good luck
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        • AndrewX
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2004
          • 574

          #5
          Things to check:

          - If the following ports are not blocked: 25, 22, 113, 80, whatever else you need.
          - Datatransfer must be really 'unmetered' and not a fair use policy of some sort.
          - Check your uptime, 99.9% means around 40 minutes of downtime per month.
          - What kind of hardware do you have? Is it server hardware? Is it stable?
          - What kind of network do you have, is it also stable?

          For 1024MB+ servers I would recommend getting a CentOS LAMP setup with DirectAdmin ($15 or so for a license) or just install Webmin/Virtualmin, it's lighter and does not 'surround' your whole OS to turn it into something else than it is (CentOS). Debian linux if you want a smaller memory footprint (it's lighter), or Ubuntu (Debian based but has an easier desktop environment). Lighttpd is also a stable server, which has a smaller memory footprint than Apache. Also, don't host other people, a few complaints and your ISP might shut you down, as they don't expect that.
          Last edited by AndrewX; 11-12-2012, 09:23 AM.

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          • EddyTheDog
            Just Doing My Own Thing
            • Jan 2011
            • 25433

            #6
            Thanks guys - All good advice.....

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            • Killswitch
              REVOLUTIONARY
              • Oct 2012
              • 2567

              #7
              Because if your server gets any decent traffic your home connection is gonna lag like fuck...

              Stop being a broke fuck and pay $10/mo for a fucking hosting account and stop building cheap shitty sites.

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              • Sly
                Let's do some business!
                • Sep 2004
                • 31376

                #8
                I'm surprised nobody mentioned that your home ISP will most likely kick you off if they catch on.
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                • icymelon
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 3220

                  #9
                  there are work arounds if the isp blocks the port. My buddy has a server at his place.
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                  • CYF
                    Coupon Guru
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 10973

                    #10
                    Your isp probably prohibits this.
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                    • wehateporn
                      Promoting Debate on GFY
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 27176

                      #11
                      It'll end in tears

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                      • shake
                        frc
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 4663

                        #12
                        Do you only plan to host one domain? If so, you could easily get a quality DNS service such as dyndns, which would allow you to have an instant failover to a cheap VPS account/hostgator or something as a backup.
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                        • AdultEUhost
                          ORLY?
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2579

                          #13
                          Originally posted by wehateporn
                          It'll end in tears
                          and a lot of gfy threads with newbies complaining their host is down lol
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                          • Va2k
                            I’m still alive barley.
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 10060

                            #14
                            You would need a static ip well you can do it without one but getting one would be best, freebsd is great, if you have like cox you would have to have a business account which is better anyways other then that go for it, even if you use it for a test server

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                            • rowan
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 17393

                              #15
                              It can be done, assuming your ISP doesn't prohibit it. But if your sites make any serious amount of money consider this - how much will you lose if your net connection (or power) dies for an hour, five hours, six days?

                              I run a couple of sites from my home office, but they're not $ makers.

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                              • EddyTheDog
                                Just Doing My Own Thing
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 25433

                                #16
                                I have a static ip and I pay the ISP for a biz account so I don't think they would be an issue.

                                I like the idea of having a fail-over VPS as a backup.

                                One of the reasons I like playing with ideas like this because you can learn so much - Its kinda fun for a geek with no life ....

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                                • sandman!
                                  Icq: 14420613
                                  • Mar 2001
                                  • 15431

                                  #17
                                  its a dumb idea i havent seen a reliable office/home isp ever.

                                  you can build yourself and colo a box for $40-$50 a month if you want to play with your own hardware.
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                                  • JamesM
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2012
                                    • 732

                                    #18
                                    You should check with your ISP terms and conditions, not all ISP allow this , because they already sell hosting space on their servers .

                                    If your plan is business plan then you can do this.
                                    Many ISP has different plans for residential and business uses.

                                    you can start with centos + directadmin or if you want anything free then go with Kloxo .

                                    good luck


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                                    • 3xmedia
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Apr 2004
                                      • 5738

                                      #19
                                      you must be broke.
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                                      • Dirty F
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 59204

                                        #20
                                        Your life must be one big failure.

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                                        • notjoe
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2002
                                          • 5599

                                          #21
                                          I'd say set up the server. Play with it. Learn with it. If the sites that are using 20mbps aren't critical then host them on your home connection. Before you do that, think about how often your home connection fails, and how long it fails for. If that is acceptable then go for it.

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                                          • brentbacardi
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2009
                                            • 1425

                                            #22
                                            Just pick up some good VPS hosting or a smaller dedicated and you are set. I have a $150/mo dedicated for my main businesses live sites and a VPS account for testing and developing on.

                                            When something goes wrong, you will be happy they have redundant connections and 24/7 tech to monitor the whole thing. Plus if you get traffic, you won't be hanging up on people and losing money!
                                            Last edited by brentbacardi; 11-13-2012, 05:14 AM.
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                                            • Tent Pitcher
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2012
                                              • 213

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                                              I have a static ip and I pay the ISP for a biz account so I don't think they would be an issue.

                                              I like the idea of having a fail-over VPS as a backup.

                                              One of the reasons I like playing with ideas like this because you can learn so much - Its kinda fun for a geek with no life ....
                                              You might want to look at a dynamic DNS service like DynDNS in case you end up having to switch your back end around, or if your ISP blocks certain ports. That allows you to have a single outwardly facing domain for your customers regardless of what goes on behind the scenes.
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                                              • DamianJ
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jul 2006
                                                • 15808

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                                                I have 20mb upload as I said - I have 10mb on the one I pay for
                                                Not the same MBs, I think you'll find...megabits/=megabytes

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                                                • woj
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                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                  • 47882

                                                  #25
                                                  not a bad idea to just try it for fun, but realistically one day your ISP will pull the plug and your sites will be down for 3 days... not sure if it really makes sense with hosting prices dirt cheap now a days...
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                                                  • AndrewX
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                    • 574

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                    Not the same MBs, I think you'll find...megabits/=megabytes
                                                    8 Bits (1's and 0's or on and off's) make 1 byte, which is a character, a letter. 20mbit / 8 = 2.5mb/sec upload speed. It can theoretically push 6000 GBs of data in 1 month if maxed out all the time (which is probably not a good idea).

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                                                    • ggrrssyydik
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2011
                                                      • 157

                                                      #27
                                                      I have servers at home. But I get 70mbs which would be equivalent to 20mbs on a business ips. Keep in mind Data center can handle more traffic. Think of it as a freeway that has 4 lanes vs 2 lanes. Even if the speed limit is higher on the 2lane, once you get alot of traffic it will slw down sooner.

                                                      the other thing to keep in mind. You will need to keep that server roughly bellow 70degrees, so you will need an air conditioned room 24/7. You will also need routers,switches, and a back up battery.
                                                      I guaranty you your electric bills will go up dramatically. Unless you have a separate room for it that you can pretty much sound proof I would not do it. It gets annoying specially at night when your trying to sleep
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                                                      • HomerSimpson
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Sep 2005
                                                        • 13826

                                                        #28
                                                        - it would be slow as fuck - don't do it...
                                                        - in the peak times - sites might get unaccessible...
                                                        - add to it power price, hardware price, software price and servicing those
                                                        - get rid of 10mbps servers for god sake... at least 100mpbs is standard today...
                                                        - a VPS is probably better solution than this...
                                                        Last edited by HomerSimpson; 11-13-2012, 11:26 AM.
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