PHP is much better than you think

[Brujah]

The biggest problem of these rants is that they come from people stuck in the old days of PHP. They either don't care or they don't want to admit that PHP actually evolves at a very fast pace, both at the language level but also at the community level. In fact, it evolves much faster than any other language or web platform. It has not always been the case, but the last 5 years have been an amazing journey for PHP.

http://fabien.potencier.org/article/...than-you-think

[Zoxxa]

I love php, I love python, I love ruby. I learned php first and I am great at it. I code all my web apps with it. I use CodeIgniter which I find to be the best framework for a one man team.

What I realized early on was that I blamed PHP for being slow, when in fact I sucked balls at indexing my databases. I spent 99.99% of my time learning php and no time on my database design or SQL. I had shitty designs with shitty SQL queries that made my sites slow as fuck. People have put WAY too much attention towards the language and not enough on the database, this is the heart of your app and you need to learn how to optimize it. It is quite easy, spend the time.

[PornMD]

Who would bitch about PHP? It's the backbone of Wordpress among many other things and is an integral part of the web - I don't think that's by accident.

[2012]

safe mode

[r00bz]

Ruby > PHP
so..
Rails > CI

[SiliconToad]

Ruby > PHP
so..
Rails > CI

You <= Stupid
so..
Idiot == You
and..
You != Reliable Source

[Zoxxa]

Operators, how clever.

[Brujah]

I like Ruby too, as well as Python.

[nextri]

facebook runs on php. I guess that says something..

[seeandsee]

php is great, but i dont have good place to learn all secrets

[Barefootsies]

You <= Stupid
so..
Idiot == You
and..
You != Reliable Source

[mafia_man]

If I had to start a new project today from scratch I wouldn't pick PHP.

Yes it's popular, yes it powers Wordpress and the rest of them, yes it's a piece of piss to deploy but fuck me I severely dislike the language; from the syntax to the shitty bolted on OO system, wannabe closures and crappy defaults.

PHP is a bad language made infinitely worse by script kiddies who don't have a clue what they are doing.

I haven't looked back since moving to Ruby. That said if I was coding a commercial script like a tube script, I'd use PHP.

[CurrentlySober]

i like Pretty Hard Poos...

[Klen]

If I had to start a new project today from scratch I wouldn't pick PHP.

Yes it's popular, yes it powers Wordpress and the rest of them, yes it's a piece of piss to deploy but fuck me I severely dislike the language; from the syntax to the shitty bolted on OO system, wannabe closures and crappy defaults.

PHP is a bad language made infinitely worse by script kiddies who don't have a clue what they are doing.

I haven't looked back since moving to Ruby. That said if I was coding a commercial script like a tube script, I'd use PHP.

The good and bad thing at php you can do same thing with million of different ways-for example when i was looking for pagination snippet,my goal was to find example which have less lines then any other.After like 100 examples found,average number of lines was from 150 to 250,till i found example which have only 5 lines.And what is irony,examples which i used before with 150 to 250 lines was bugged while this one with 5 lines works perfectly.And this is why i stick with PHP- even if something right now is not made good,they will fix it in future and make it better.

[- Jesus Christ -]

facebook runs on php. I guess that says something..

The code base is in PHP becasue its easier to coordinate the dev team using PHP, but its actually compiled as C before its deployed.

[Kiopa_Matt]

safe mode

Depreciated, and removed all together as of PHP v5.4.

http://php.net/manual/en/features.safe-mode.php

[grumpy]

If I had to start a new project today from scratch I wouldn't pick PHP.

Yes it's popular, yes it powers Wordpress and the rest of them, yes it's a piece of piss to deploy but fuck me I severely dislike the language; from the syntax to the shitty bolted on OO system, wannabe closures and crappy defaults.

PHP is a bad language made infinitely worse by script kiddies who don't have a clue what they are doing.

I haven't looked back since moving to Ruby. That said if I was coding a commercial script like a tube script, I'd use PHP.

Your out of touch.

[blackmonsters]

facebook runs on php. I guess that says something..

Not really, since PHP, PERL, etc... all run in an interperter that is written in C.

PHP, PERL, etc... are "easier ways" to execute C.

Debating which is better is like debating which gas station has the best regular gas;
neither is high octane.

[mafia_man]

The good and bad thing at php you can do same thing with million of different ways-for example when i was looking for pagination snippet,my goal was to find example which have less lines then any other.After like 100 examples found,average number of lines was from 150 to 250,till i found example which have only 5 lines.And what is irony,examples which i used before with 150 to 250 lines was bugged while this one with 5 lines works perfectly.And this is why i stick with PHP- even if something right now is not made good,they will fix it in future and make it better.

How about 'gem will_paginate' and then sticking 'will_paginate' into my template file.

Piece of piss in Rails.

Your out of touch.

You're*

Expand on your shitty point.

[HomerSimpson]

php simply rocks...

[KillerK]

I think we will see a shift away from php on the larger more traffic'd websites.

[shake]

The right tool for the job is the most important thing. I like PHP for simpler projects, and I'm trying to start using PHP frameworks for more complicated projects as it saves a lot of time. Really enjoying using Python for some interesting multithreaded projects I'm working on these days.

[Dvae]

Anyone use Scala.
Looks very interesting. Apparentlty Twitter runs on it.
API listing here. Looks like it requires Java to run.

[mafia_man]

Anyone use Scala.
Looks very interesting. Apparentlty Twitter runs on it.
API listing here. Looks like it requires Java to run.

Yes, but functional programming is hard to grasp if you come from OO.

I do believe it's the future though: functional programming, actor model == multi-core scaling.

[Confined]

The code base is in PHP becasue its easier to coordinate the dev team using PHP, but its actually compiled as C before its deployed.

+1 to jc.
Was just gonna type this...

https://github.com/facebook/hiphop-php

it's pretty good

[r00bz]

You <= Stupid
so..
Idiot == You
and..
You != Reliable Source

SiliconToad['sexuality'] = 'fag'
SiliconToad['fagotry-level'] = 10000