I need backup processor

[Master_Yoba]

It should accept EU based business (without US presence).
Epoch doesn't deal
IBill not so good this time
WSB doesn't pay

Jettis??

Any suggestions?

[corvette]

if you have any questions about ccbill, feel free to contact our sales team or myself

45471840

[max.yambo]

hm... yambo.biz...

[Master_Yoba]

Originally posted by corvett
if you have any questions about ccbill, feel free to contact our sales team or myself

45471840

CCBill is our primary processor

[KRL]

Talk to KimmyKim for Epassporte.

[Master_Yoba]

Originally posted by KRL
Talk to KimmyKim for Epassporte.

I've talked with her... I think Epassporte solution will be good for p2p payments soon but it's not appreciated for paysites membership model for now

[Master_Yoba]

any other solutions?

[NETbilling]

Hi,

If you have any questions about Netbilling, please contact myself or our sales department.

(888)357-8166 / (661)252-2456

[email protected]

Mitch

ICQ#117496436

[ozzymandius]

Try Glo-bill.com.

I use them as primary and am very, very happy with them. They accept webmasters from all regions of the world.

[BabeHunter]

Originally posted by ozzymandius
Try Glo-bill.com.

They accept webmasters from all regions of the world.

but not from Israel

[CashGordon]

You can try www.pswbilling.com or www.pgglobal.com

I used both as backups. I received the payments on time.

[Rand]

Master Yoba,

I saw you mention in another thread too that you wanted a new processor. I don't know what you mean in your opening statement on this thread, but drop me a line and let me know what you are looking for.

If you are a U.S. corp, you probably want to look at us and CCBill and maybe even MPA2.

[email protected].

[tony286]

Epassporte is scary,they want a guarantee (if they are collecting the fees for my site they should have the money for their fees)and they want your bank info(the answer I got on this one ,we want it because in the future we maybe adding a function.Why cant you ask for it when you have the function instead of my bank info sitting god knows where). It makes me nervous to give a offshore company my bank info, remember if they can put money in they can take money out. Also bothers me that no body can give a straight answer who owns it, this some of the owners of epoch maybe also be owners of epassporte but I dont know. Thats very weird. Most people are proud of what they own a part of , everybody is being vague. Be careful people

[Rand]

Tony404,

This is at least the 2nd thread where you've posted the same thing about ePassporte. I don't know what kind of account you were tying to open with epassporte, but some types of accounts DO require your banking info. Trust them or don't but enough already with trying to find some conspiracy where it doesn't exist. That's all anyone needs right now is more unnecessary drama given the current state of affairs in our industry.

An ePassporte personal account requires very straight-forward information to meet the "know your customer" rules from the card associations and enough information to securely fund the card. It's easy to see what is required at https://www.epassporte.com/secure/ep...cgi?req=signup .

ePassporte is a private company so they are not required to give details about ownership, but, it is true that the principals of Epoch, who many on this board have known and worked with for several years, have interests in the company. And yes, it's off-shore for reasons I don't need to go into here, but, at least SOMEONE is attempting to come up with solutions for the adult community and taking the time and spending the money to make them happen. A LOT of experts helped put ePassporte together. People who know MUCH more about the inner workings of international Visa and electronic financial transactions than you or I.

Use or don't, it's obviously up to you. But chill with the copy and paste posts and enough with the conspiracy theories. The guys at ePassporte are some of the most honorable and honest people I've ever been associated with. End of story.

[FreeNetPass Steve]

I highly recommend ccbill and epoch.

[nevermind]

Originally posted by Rand

The guys at ePassporte are some of the most honorable and honest people I've ever been associated with. End of story.

Yeah ... Chris Mallick is a real dream. Blatantly lying about the key issues discussed on page 5 of the Mastercard lawsuit thread:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...4&pagenumber=5

Tony404 has every right to express his concerns.

Why don't you guys do yourselves a favor and back off on the PR a bit. If you don't want to answer tough questions about Epoch or Epassporte, that's fine. I can understand that.

But when you constantly brag about being honest, competent managers --- it doesn't hold up to any amount of scrutiny.

_____________________________

"I have rules, and one of them is that if you lie to my face, I will come back and bury you repeatedly in every forum I have. " -- James Cramer, Thestreet.com

[tony286]

Originally posted by Rand
Tony404,

This is at least the 2nd thread where you've posted the same thing about ePassporte. I don't know what kind of account you were tying to open with epassporte, but some types of accounts DO require your banking info. Trust them or don't but enough already with trying to find some conspiracy where it doesn't exist. That's all anyone needs right now is more unnecessary drama given the current state of affairs in our industry.

An ePassporte personal account requires very straight-forward information to meet the "know your customer" rules from the card associations and enough information to securely fund the card. It's easy to see what is required at https://www.epassporte.com/secure/ep...cgi?req=signup .

ePassporte is a private company so they are not required to give details about ownership, but, it is true that the principals of Epoch, who many on this board have known and worked with for several years, have interests in the company. And yes, it's off-shore for reasons I don't need to go into here, but, at least SOMEONE is attempting to come up with solutions for the adult community and taking the time and spending the money to make them happen. A LOT of experts helped put ePassporte together. People who know MUCH more about the inner workings of international Visa and electronic financial transactions than you or I.

Use or don't, it's obviously up to you. But chill with the copy and paste posts and enough with the conspiracy theories. The guys at ePassporte are some of the most honorable and honest people I've ever been associated with. End of story.

If they are so honest why are they hiding? I went for a commercial account. Its not a conspiracy theory, its people who dont trust enough to give us a straight answer on ownership but then want us to trust them with our money especially when its in one of those little countries where law and order are a joke. Also please stop with this we are helping the webmaster your motivation is to help yourself to make money which isnt bad its business but lets not act like we are Mother Therea of the porn world. I have right to question just like you have a right to talk all over the board how great it is. I wont speak on it again.

[nevermind]

Originally posted by tony404

If they are so honest why are they hiding? I went for a commercial account. Its not a conspiracy theory, its people who dont trust enough to give us a straight answer on ownership but then want us to trust them with our money especially when its in one of those little countries where law and order are a joke.

It is interesting that they've set up a seperate overseas entity in the face of a Mastercard crackdown ---- which, according to Epoch's lawsuit, could put their U.S. company out of business.

___________________________________

"I have rules, and one of them is that if you lie to my face, I will come back and bury you repeatedly in every forum I have. " -- James Cramer, Thestreet.com

[JDragon]

Originally posted by tony404



If they are so honest why are they hiding? I went for a commercial account. Its not a conspiracy theory, its people who dont trust enough to give us a straight answer on ownership but then want us to trust them with our money especially when its in one of those little countries where law and order are a joke. Also please stop with this we are helping the webmaster your motivation is to help yourself to make money which isnt bad its business but lets not act like we are Mother Therea of the porn world. I have right to question just like you have a right to talk all over the board how great it is. I wont speak on it again.

clap.... Clap... CLAP.... If you ask me, any company responsible for anyones' monay nowadays ought to be very careful about they handle it. When it comes to making mistakes about the color of the paint, the size of the tile or the height of the ceiling, that's usually negotiable. But when it comes to dealing with anothers' personal assets, that's where the line has to be drawn.

[cashalot]

CCBill is sweet

[JDragon]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nevermind
[B]

It is interesting that they've set up a seperate overseas entity in the face of a Mastercard crackdown ---- which, according to Epoch's lawsuit, could put their U.S. company out of business.

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What exactly does Mastercard have to do with the business here as opposed to overseas business? (i.e. what do you mean by "crackdown"?)

[nevermind]

Originally posted by JDragon

What do you mean by "crackdown"?)

All of this was discussed at length on page 5 of the Epoch/Mastercard lawsuit thread:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...4&pagenumber=5

But, if you like, I will briefly summarize:

Epoch violated Mastercard's chargeback rules for several months in 2001 and 2002. After that, Mastercard cracked down hard --- imposing millions of dollars in fines and demanding that Epoch restructure their business. Epoch has filed suit saying Mastercard's demands will put their U.S. company out of business.

I just found it interesting that, in the face of these problems, Epoch's principal officers have set up the seperate Epassporte processing entity overseas.

_________________________________

"I have rules, and one of them is that if you lie to my face, I will come back and bury you repeatedly in every forum I have. " -- James Cramer, Thestreet.com

[Excretor]

CardsGate RuleZ

[cotsios]

Jettis or ACPAY

[inthestars]

Use Verotel, you will have NO problems at all. They love Euro processors, they are based in the Nethelands themselves. You can accept all sorts of payments: Credit card, check, and 900 payments (US AND EUROPE!)..See my signature at the bottom of the post and sign up!

[OY]

I say USE THEM ALL = MPA2



And Epassporte is in implemetation phase into MPA2 - GREAT alternative for the misère of PayPal.