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Originally Posted by Atticus
I agree with you, however the mainstream soccer moms might not introduce legislation nor get signatures on petitions, when it comes time to cast a ballot on a porn issue that they feel can effect their children, you know what side of the fense they are on. And there are more of them then i think you give them credit for. Bush didnt lose the last election. This time he won it by a decent margin.
I fully agree that this industry need their own trade group and needs to organize. My problem is with the FSC and their propaganda machine regarding free speech. This isnt a free speech issue. This is just the government issuing this industry regulations because we cant adopt them ourselves. A better public relations campaign would be to stand up as an industry and say that we agree with the new regulations (however fucked they might be) and introduce even more regulations thata s an industry we are instituting. Fight the bees with honey so to say.
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Complying to these new regulations are almost impossible. Especially if they try to make them retroactive for the secondary producer. No one here can remember what nude banner they had on their sites back in 99 much less could you go back to that company (if they were still in busines) and request the model's info.
Do you see the cigerette ads that actually tell you smoking is bad? kinda weriod, or the gambling hot line number around any gambling machines. Along the same lines WE should educate mainstream america. OUR groups should focus on education for parents by giving them easy to use filter software, by explaining to them how to police their children's internet access, to help them report CP or hardcore images that are pushed on their kids etc.. We should also explain how our websites are meant for adults in the privacy of their own homes and rebut all the BS the govt and realigious zealots preach about us. Things are always a lot different when mainstream america knows what we are all about and they can hear both sides of the story.
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Originally Posted by Atticus
I think the problem that people have with the FSC (i know my problem with them) is they masquerade as a free speech not for profit organization while all they really are is a industry trade group. If they were a legitimate free speech organization they wouldnt have excluded all non members. When the ACLU goes to court to knock down what they feel are unjust laws, and recieve injunctions they dont only apply to paid up members. Dont be so naive to think that this agreement wasnt made with the thought of increasing the membership drive.
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The FSC is not the best group to represent us. I appreciate their efforts, and the fact that they are the only group we have. You have to understand without them, right now, the new 2257 regs would be in effect and uncontested. They would be set in stone. IF/When the FSC settles this thing or wins it, EVERYONE will benefit from it. SO they do protect/help everyone. THis is one of the rare cases where they had to file a lawsuit, in the US you can only file a lawsuit as a PLAINTIFF. They couldn't do it on behalf of the entire US adult webmaster population. Also, the membership drive, all of the money from that is going to be going into this lawsuit. 2 things you need to think of, how much do you think they have in expenses to take a case like this on, not counting everything else they are working on. The other thing is, do you think they should work for free. I wouldn't expect that anyone work for free, i absolutly think they should be compensaited for their time, shit for what they are doing for us, (that no one else is) they should be paid a lot. But since they are a NOn Profit ORG, all the extra money (if there is any) will go into other programs. You guys need to cut them some slack. When we have 100 groups looking out for us then you can have the right to critize/scrutinize them, until then be happy for what you have, because the alternative is an anal probe by the DOJ, best case scenerio.