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06-23-2005, 11:13 AM

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Hey Fris where was this "publicly available" place you found the urls at?

It was something as easy as

www.siccash.com/wminfo or www.siccash.com/private or www.siccash.com/emails

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06-23-2005, 11:16 AM

sue brad shaw for defamation of character fris

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06-23-2005, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Shok

Hey Fris where was this "publicly available" place you found the urls at?

It was siccash.com/admin if I'm not mistaken. The passwords were also very insecure if I remember one was just " sicadmin ", you see how bad this is ? Would it be the same admin doing the installations ? Is AlienQ doing installs of this too ?

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06-23-2005, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Brujah

It was siccash.com/admin if I'm not mistaken. The passwords were also very insecure if I remember one was just " sicadmin ", you see how bad this is ? Would it be the same admin doing the installations ? Is AlienQ doing installs of this too ?

Dont worry, if alienq is doing installs, the passwords would be Names ofvarious designer techniques which he invented.

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06-23-2005, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by Alex

Dont worry, if alienq is doing installs, the passwords would be Names ofvarious designer techniques which he invented.

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06-23-2005, 11:44 AM

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06-23-2005, 11:59 AM

Fris is a great guy and this shiz pisses me off
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06-23-2005, 12:01 PM

fris is a fucking idiot.

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06-23-2005, 12:03 PM

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06-23-2005, 12:13 PM

The funniest part of that article is how Brad Shaw reportedly 'went to the Secret Service' on this

Fris did him a FAVOR here, by exposing serious security holes that needed to be fixed immediately. Most companies pay for that kind of service and information

Whether or not Fris asked Shaw for cash to not expose them is irrelevant. That's a "He said She said" situation anyways. However, Shaw SHOULD have paid him, or atleast thanked him, for showing him the vulnerabilities.

Also, what Fris did doesn't qualify as hacking or illegal system entry and he could never be prosecuted for those actions.

That's just my 2 cents here

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06-23-2005, 12:15 PM

I didn't realize so many GFY'rs were lawyers.

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06-23-2005, 12:21 PM

Executive Stats is installed by the ES Team.

They are rather fast and efficient at it, and communications with them is always perfect to work any technical issues and even modifications.

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06-23-2005, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by Alex

What slander.

I think even more higly of fris now. Nothing changed. In fact bradshaw is owning himself even more.

Well judging from the quote under your name " i am a l337 haX0r 1111 " some people might take being called a " hacker" and being accused of doing something illegal as being a good thing. To the rest of the normal world, we see those accusations as damaging = slander (unless it can be proved).

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06-23-2005, 12:24 PM

All I see is a bunch of Wendy's employee's up in arms here...

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06-23-2005, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by will76

Well judging from the quote under your name " i am a l337 haX0r 1111 " some people might take being called a " hacker" and being accused of doing something illegal as being a good thing. To the rest of the normal world, we see those accusations as damaging = slander (unless it can be proved).

I was being sarcasitic

Yes, it is slander. But i dont think fris would spend his time worrying about it.

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06-23-2005, 12:26 PM

I purchased ES for my new program because my techs and I felt it was the best system.

And I?m glad Fris found some security holes so the system can be beefed up and even stronger.

All and all I see this as good Drama

As far as Brad goes Brad will be Brad and he did get his ass handed to him.

And once I launch I would love for some hackers to try and hack me just to be super secure. Bring it on
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06-23-2005, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by will76

Yeah it kinda sucks someone points out holes in your program and you accuse him of being a hacker. Just because he found the hole doesn't mean he put it there.

Microsoft does that on a daily basis.

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06-23-2005, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by RogerV

Bring it on

You are crazy. Most of these script won't hold up to a qualified black hat.

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06-23-2005, 12:32 PM

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06-23-2005, 12:33 PM

Mouhahahaha, this thread is too funny :D

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06-23-2005, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo

You are crazy. Most of these script won't hold up to a qualified black hat.

Is there a certification course for Black Hat now or somthing?

All systems are Vulnerable. Period.

Luckily the invite is to GFYers.

A crowd that couldnt fuck a whore on a friday night without telling her to see a sig.

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06-23-2005, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by BradShaw

Bringer, you make it sound like we were told of specfic problems and did not fix them. That is flat out incorrect. We were told there were "holes" and if we secured his services, he would tell us where and they would be fixed. IMHO this was extortion. He was on our server without our permission, we never hired him.

k mr tech guy, who cant even post an image let alone do html,

being on the server meaning at the console.

which i never even had access to.

i visited a public avail url. no login box came up, i did not brute force my way in. i did not hack my way in.

how is this extortion? i never asked for money or else i am going to expose you. that was never this issue. the issue was here is your faults your permissins are messed up fix them so your clients know about them and you can make your software better. you really need to get that through your thick skull. i dont care if your software is the best or the worst that is not what its about. its about correcting the problem.

i really wish you would understand that.

if i wanted money i would have asked for it. but i would never want to work for you ever. after how cocky you are. i have worked for cocky bosses before. in person i would end up punching you out.

see the problem is you have no tech skills that is a problem when you run a company, you need to know what is going on. you pay little lemmings and assume they know everything while you sit back with your wallet.

that is not good. you need to know some tech skills.

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06-23-2005, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

Executive Stats is installed by the ES Team.

They are rather fast and efficient at it, and communications with them is always perfect to work any technical issues and even modifications.

oh are you their marketing rep now? major ass kissing now.

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06-23-2005, 12:46 PM

I think the biggest "question of fact" is to whether fris asked BS for $. If fris did ask him for $, and after not getting it put the info out on GFY, then he's an extortionist. But fris says that this did not happen. Without knowing what the actual truth is, it's very hard to pass judgement on this matter.
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06-23-2005, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by fris

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06-23-2005, 12:50 PM

Fris you had done what no real professional would do.

Your a dirt bag...

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06-23-2005, 01:06 PM

Hackers?...excuse me but since when hacking goes in the line of finding and sharing exploits...

Somebody please teach this sort of thing to Brad Shaw before he keeps making a fool of himself...

they sell a $25k software and don't even know how to secure their own server...scary to say the least...
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06-23-2005, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by will76

Accusing you of "hacking him" on a public board is slandering you. Unless he can prove you did it, which even if you did I doubt he could do it. Sounds like you have a better case against him then he does you. I think accusing someone of hacking your system is damaging to their reputation and you could be compensaited for those damages.

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06-23-2005, 01:13 PM

Actually if ya follow the passage of time to where it started...

Ya might see differently.

Even if we traced it back to Danza.

Danza went to Brads board.
Spammed didnt make a big impression I suppose, got banned I recall.
Then Danza came to GFy talkin shit about Brad.

Brad is a reactive person like myself.

Ya fuck with me I fire back.
If I didnt it would be a sign of weakness.

However on the brighter side.
Ya do biz with me, or I work with you or even agree with what ya think the entire level changes.

Business is business.
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Its a promo at the end of the day win or loose.

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06-23-2005, 01:18 PM

no offense alien. i dig you as a person but i would not advise anybody to employ you for affiliate program installation or maint. after reading your posts the last few days.

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06-23-2005, 01:21 PM

I do not do the initial installations.

Those are often carried out by the application maker.

Read the thread bro...
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06-23-2005, 01:26 PM

Fris, you may want to talk to your lawyer. He would tell you to shut up. Your brother as well. He spent all morning trying to cover your tracks, call me, etc. It is out of my hands.

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06-23-2005, 01:28 PM

what was the goal of posting it on a public board instead of telling them privately?

seriously- what did you possibly gain from that?
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06-23-2005, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

I do not do the initial installations.

Those are often carried out by the application maker.

Read the thread bro...
Are you still mad he had his dog piss on your C&D?

i was never mad.

and since you choose to go this route:

Where is the fucking full-page ad I orderred from you months ago and spent 45 minutes on the phone discussing with you?

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06-23-2005, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by XPays

i was never mad.

and since you choose to go this route:

Where is the fucking full-page ad I orderred from you months ago and spent 45 minutes on the phone discussing with you?

Where is the fucking money?
Ya never got an invoice did you?
I laid out Nicole for ya some (ABSOLUTLY FREE) and never heard from your ass...

Now ya wonder why I side stepped doing biz with ya after to much flaking.

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06-23-2005, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

Where is the fucking money?
Ya never got an invoice did you?
I laid out Nicole for ya some (ABSOLUTLY FREE) and never heard from your flacky ass...

Now ya wonder why I side stepped doing biz with ya after to much flaking.

you are certifiable. i told you flat out the ad was a test and it was for d$'s dad's type-in's and i asked for the invoice 10 times only to watch you warring on the board for days while my ad was not completed.

nicole has its point people and they rock fortunately.

you suck at business. every little test is a stepping stone and i would not have tried your promo page special unless i had bigger plans and you failed me.

i win in the end though because now my stuff is pro.

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06-23-2005, 01:37 PM

Thats cool.
I am certifiable.

Ya throw an insult then throw shit and I am certifiable?

Have a nice day bro!
Light one up for me.

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06-23-2005, 01:37 PM

here is some free advice: before hard selling and upselling a client alien, knock-out the measely $250 order.

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06-23-2005, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

Thats cool.
I am certifiable.

Ya throw an insult then throw shit and I am certifiable?

Have a nice day bro!
Light one up for me.

you sucking b.s.'s dick and critiquing fris is not at all cool.

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06-23-2005, 01:40 PM

I even covered side tracked Kourush for fun...
Covered for you on several occasions on this very board.

Your pretty stupid...
I can see ya got a dagger, just go away dude you got no leg here.

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06-23-2005, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by BradShaw

Fris, you may want to talk to your lawyer. He would tell you to shut up. Your brother as well. He spent all morning trying to cover your tracks, call me, etc. It is out of my hands.

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06-23-2005, 01:42 PM

Damn Evan...

Unreal.

Ya got a problem recognising loyalty.

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06-23-2005, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

I even covered side tracked Kourush for fun...
Covered for you on several occasions on this very board.

Your pretty stupid...
I can see ya got a dagger, just go away dude you got no leg here.

i loved the minister photoshop- the rest of your posts were factually incorrect and i just let you be only to revisit and see that you meant well then and i appreciate it.

on this rant you are flat-out wrong though.

fris has to think like a filthy hacker to detect issues. that is fundamental. this is a calling card for him and an early warning that es's software and architecture must have some much bigger problems. you are stearing people towards catastrophe and base things on your experience rather than the current reality.

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06-23-2005, 01:44 PM

Ya got Fris on Pay Roll?

You are here because why Evan?

Is it because Brad and you used to fight over Celeb crap day and night just like you target Kourush now?

AHha, now I see the mistake I made in showing you an ounce of respect publicly...

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06-23-2005, 01:44 PM

It wasn't an illegal activity, but imho neither professional thing to do. If the owner was your friend you wouldn't have acted like that. Most people's decisions in this business are taken primarily on personal level. I find what you did was weak because it got affected from the opinion I think you have for Brad and not on what really will mean what you did as action.
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06-23-2005, 01:47 PM

Now Evan...

Stick that dagger in someone elses back...

Foolio.

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06-23-2005, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

Ya got Fris on Pay Roll?

You are here because why Evan?

Is it because Brad and you used to fight over Celeb crap day and night just like you target Kourush now?

AHha, now I see the mistake I made in showing you an ounce of respect publicly...

Fris is not on our payroll and has done no work for us but based on my instinct - I would recommend him over 20 smokey's anyday. He is real.

I have no targets and Brad is the biggest hypocrit on the face of the earth. He has beat XPays valid legal proceedings like a dead horse for 5 years and is now a huge retard who thinks his idle threats here are worth anything?

Do you see the irony?

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06-23-2005, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

Now Evan...

Stick that dagger in someone elses back...

Foolio.

you lost my faith when moe$ had to hear from me his pages were coming for too long. that was a let-down

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06-23-2005, 01:51 PM

Well if ya pulled out a check book and asked for an invoice like a professional...

Stay in contact when a project is ordered...

Poor Moe$ would have a very nice site.
Maybe he should contact me to do it himself.

Maybe he can make for better professionalism than attempting to bad mouth me on a board when there is no baring for it.

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06-23-2005, 01:52 PM

fris ............ you are ok in my little black booklet, now all you haters, GFY and ...... BS as in Bull Shit is an ass, end of story !
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