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  • NetRodent
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2002
    • 3985
    #51
    It seems possible to get around the checksum. If you check out the lower left corner of http://www.bannedstuff.com/ they've got a working cgi version. I checked a few pages through it and the PR seemed right.

    http://scripts.xrenoder.com/googpr.php also seems to work sometimes.
    "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
    --H.L. Mencken

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      • PowerCum
        CjOverkill
        • Apr 2003
        • 1328
        #52
        Ok, here is what I found, so perhaps someone could get some advantage of it.

        checksum dependency:

        navigator = NO
        IP = NO
        hour = NO
        server IP = NO
        domain = YES
        page size = YES ??? after changing my page, the checksum changed
        page modification date = YES ??? same as the page size.

        The method I figured it would be fast to do it:

        You will need the googlenav.dll (download the google toolbat .cab file from Google and extract the googlenav.dll from it.

        If you dissasemble googlenav.dll (breaking the terms of service... but who the fuck cares?) you can see that it imports several other modules:
        Wininet.dll
        CRYPT32.dll
        It includes several more, but these are the important.
        The googlenav.dll will export these functions:
        DllCanUnloadNow
        DllGetClassObject
        DllInfoA
        DllRegisterServer
        DllUpdated2
        DllUpdated
        DllVersionStringA
        DllVersionStringW
        As you can see, it does not export the PR nor the crc.
        That is quite logical if you take in mind that it uses the WININET.dll HttpSendRequestA function. If you take a look at the WININET.dll imported functions, it almost starts it's own browser.
        The CRYPT32.dll will use CryptQueryObject to help making the crc code.

        Now the glitch is that you have a dll that will query by itself the page rank and some other info, so it could be included in any other browser or program and give the same results. The best method I guess it's to do that is just adding this dll to a program that makes page queries and then consults the dll.
        The page rank is a value returned in pure text, so it could be captured by the browser (page rank checker program), or just the output on the googlenav.dll could be redirected to the program that checks the PRs. If you capture the reply, you will not violate google's license because you would not need to modify their dll. If you decide to modify the dll and make it redirect the output to something else, you will be breaking google's license (but who cares?). In any case, if you are about to modify the googlenav.dll (and break google's license) then it's just a better idea to modify the WININET.dll statements and make it load your own modification of wininet.dll, so it would modify several of the query methods. After all, the WININET.dll is used to comunicate with google's servers once the crc is calculated, so make it comunicate with your program instead of google's server.

        Hope this helps you. I know almost nothing about windows because I'm unix geek, so I can't help much more. If you know any programmer familiar with windows internals, I think he could take some advantage of this post.
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          • funkmaster
            So Fucking Banned
            • Sep 2001
            • 7938
            #53
            Originally posted by goBigtime
            Anyone speak french? (lol)

            http://www.abc-actu.com/abc-pr.html
            ... doesn´t work, and my firewall notified that it tried to connect to some IP during program start.

            ... and no, I am not interested in in the $5/1000 request offer, this way you guys will get the good domains first, I am not that stupid ... LOL !!

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              • funkmaster
                So Fucking Banned
                • Sep 2001
                • 7938
                #54
                btw: thanks for your time on ICQ powercum, pretty much appreciated !!

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                  • bawdy
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 1424
                    #55
                    ok heres what ive come up with so far seems pretty easy

                    download a http sniffer like this one
                    http://www.effetech.com/sniffer/

                    write a simple program to open all the urls you want to obtain pr ... (dont forget to turn images/hahahahahahahahahaha/etc off so you dont waste bandwidth/get popups etc)

                    once this is done save the http sniffer log

                    write a simple program to parse log file to extract urls for pr query

                    execute url and save url/pr to csv file

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                      • funkmaster
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 7938
                        #56
                        Originally posted by bawdy
                        ok heres what ive come up with so far seems pretty easy

                        download a http sniffer like this one
                        http://www.effetech.com/sniffer/

                        write a simple program to open all the urls you want to obtain pr ... (dont forget to turn images/hahahahahahahahahaha/etc off so you dont waste bandwidth/get popups etc)

                        once this is done save the http sniffer log

                        write a simple program to parse log file to extract urls for pr query

                        execute url and save url/pr to csv file
                        you are the man ... even I can code that ... fucking congrats !!

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                          • bawdy
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 1424
                            #57
                            hahahahaha = j avascrip t

                            it might help to connect via proxy so they dont get the same ip all the time

                            i could program it if your interested or im sure you could find many ppl who would be capable

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                              • PowerCum
                                CjOverkill
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 1328
                                #58
                                Originally posted by bawdy
                                hahahahaha = j avascrip t

                                it might help to connect via proxy so they dont get the same ip all the time

                                i could program it if your interested or im sure you could find many ppl who would be capable
                                Google detects your proxy and real IP.

                                If you have got the forbidden page when the checksum is not correct, you can see some crap stuff at the end of the page. It's a base64_encoded text, so use base64_decode("the-google-encrypted reply here)

                                It will give you the same think what you get if you put a sniffer. It's a complete sniff of your request.

                                If you connect in raw to the PR servers, you can see that they use a custom coded Google Web Server (GWS)

                                In any case, they did not blacklist my IP after 5k consecutive queries
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                                  • fnet
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2002
                                    • 1721
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by bawdy
                                    ok heres what ive come up with so far seems pretty easy

                                    download a http sniffer like this one
                                    http://www.effetech.com/sniffer/

                                    write a simple program to open all the urls you want to obtain pr ... (dont forget to turn images/hahahahahahahahahaha/etc off so you dont waste bandwidth/get popups etc)

                                    once this is done save the http sniffer log

                                    write a simple program to parse log file to extract urls for pr query

                                    execute url and save url/pr to csv file
                                    you don't even need the sniffer

                                    you also don't want ie starting new instances- so are you automating ie or hitting the urls some other way? automation is only simple if you know what you're doing
                                    the sound of one hand googlewhacking

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                                      • bawdy
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 1424
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by fnet


                                        you don't even need the sniffer

                                        you also don't want ie starting new instances- so are you automating ie or hitting the urls some other way? automation is only simple if you know what you're doing
                                        use winapi to open a new window... when the window opens you are returned a handle to the window which you can use to either change the url or close the window when your done with the query

                                        for example you could open 4 windows each of which cycles through a bunch of urls

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                                          • fnet
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 1721
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by bawdy


                                            use winapi to open a new window... when the window opens you are returned a handle to the window which you can use to either change the url or close the window when your done with the query

                                            for example you could open 4 windows each of which cycles through a bunch of urls
                                            just figured out how to do it with automation in 7 lines of code.

                                            popping and dropping windows will kill you on load times.

                                            need to do this against 1 million+ urls with no display window. has to be automation.

                                            btw, i'd be happy to provide my code to someone who wants to trade something for it.
                                            the sound of one hand googlewhacking

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                                              • Dildozer
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 7519
                                                #62
                                                I'll trade you lil2rich4u2 and 2 swoit sigs
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                                                  • igneus
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 77
                                                    #63
                                                    I just finished reversing google's checksum algo, which means I could make you guys a program that checks a bunch of urls in the background instead of using a bunch of IE's and the google toolbar (not sure what you're doing now)

                                                    PM me or respond here if you're interested and I'll start working on it. I don't need it for anything, so if nobody wants it, I'll just leave it alone and won't waste anymore time.
                                                    icq: 201430673

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                                                      • igneus
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                        • 77
                                                        #64
                                                        ..Or AIM me at 'jcsn3409'--didn't know pm's were disabled.
                                                        icq: 201430673

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                                                          • Dildozer
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2002
                                                            • 7519
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by igneus
                                                            ..Or AIM me at 'jcsn3409'--didn't know pm's were disabled.
                                                            you got icq? hit me up
                                                            Spam link here

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                                                              • igneus
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 77
                                                                #66
                                                                Downloaded icq and have no idea how to use it, but you guys can contact me at that too: 201430673
                                                                icq: 201430673

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                                                                  • nuclei
                                                                    old school fart
                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                    • 1015
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Oh come on now, you have got to be joking about this being hard or "being able to make it but not show you made it".
                                                                    come on guys.

                                                                    http://4retards.com/pagerank.pl
                                                                    The next generation of SEO

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                                                                      • igneus
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                        • 77
                                                                        #68
                                                                        I didn't say it was hard. Posting a screenshot of the program wouldn't prove anything, so I didn't.

                                                                        Cute perl script.
                                                                        icq: 201430673

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                                                                          • bawdy
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                            • 1424
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by nuclei
                                                                            Oh come on now, you have got to be joking about this being hard or "being able to make it but not show you made it".
                                                                            come on guys.

                                                                            http://4retards.com/pagerank.pl
                                                                            ?? any of the below:
                                                                            CRC32
                                                                            MD5
                                                                            SHA1
                                                                            SHA256
                                                                            SHA384
                                                                            SHA512

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                                                                              • nuclei
                                                                                old school fart
                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                • 1015
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by igneus
                                                                                I didn't say it was hard. Posting a screenshot of the program wouldn't prove anything, so I didn't.

                                                                                Cute perl script.
                                                                                Thanks.

                                                                                You should make 2 versions. a free version that does only one url at a time, and then the paid one that does a full list. showing people what you have works will sell a lot more.
                                                                                The next generation of SEO

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                                                                                  • igneus
                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                    • 77
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by nuclei


                                                                                    Thanks.

                                                                                    You should make 2 versions. a free version that does only one url at a time, and then the paid one that does a full list. showing people what you have works will sell a lot more.
                                                                                    Yeah, I was going to do something like that, but it could just be automated with some simple API. And I don't really "have" anything yet because I was waiting to see if anyone wanted it before starting the actual list checker. What I have now just generates the checksum for the URL--the only part of the list checker that poses any sort of challenge--but it's useless.

                                                                                    Here's a screenshot of it and all it's glory if you want to see it though: http://www.sunday.ru/pottery/prview.jpg

                                                                                    Generates the URL as you type and, like I said, doesn't really prove much since if I really wanted to I could put all that information in manually. 8-T
                                                                                    icq: 201430673

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                                                                                      • nuclei
                                                                                        old school fart
                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                        • 1015
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        heh everyone shut up pretty quickly on that one
                                                                                        The next generation of SEO

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                                                                                          • igneus
                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                            • 77
                                                                                            #73


                                                                                            icq: 201430673

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                                                                                              • swedguy
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                • 7981
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by igneus


                                                                                                Very nice

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                                                                                                  • Dildozer
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                                    • 7519
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    -1 ???
                                                                                                    Spam link here

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                                                                                                      • richard
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                                                        • 543
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by Dildozer
                                                                                                        -1 ???
                                                                                                        could be the default for urls not checked yet

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                                                                                                          • igneus
                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                                            • 77
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            -1 when it hasn't been checked yet, hehe

                                                                                                            edit: Richard wins 8-(
                                                                                                            icq: 201430673

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                                                                                                              • Dildozer
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                • 7519
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                btw how fast is it?
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                                                                                                                  • igneus
                                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                    • 77
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Where can I get a big list to try it with? Did that list in like a second. 8-T
                                                                                                                    icq: 201430673

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                                                                                                                      • 4eym
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                        • 104
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Nice, nice... So, when does it become available?
                                                                                                                        If it doesn't make dollars, then it doesn't make sense!

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                                                                                                                          • igneus
                                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                            • 77
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Just tried a list Dildozer gave me with one thread going and it went about 5/sec, but now I know what needs to be improved. (didn't think lists would be so enormous)

                                                                                                                            I'll probably make it use a couple more threads to speed it up a bit.

                                                                                                                            And, as I've found, having no stop button is terribly inconvenient--can't believe I forgot that, lol.

                                                                                                                            So, once I give it a couple more threads, a stop button () and optimize a couple little things for the big list size, it should be good to go.
                                                                                                                            icq: 201430673

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                                                                                                                              • funkmaster
                                                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                • 7938
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                igneus, got paypal ?

                                                                                                                                ... please answer my ICQ requests, I am going to buy it !

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                                                                                                                                  • igneus
                                                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 77
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    You sent me icq requests? lol

                                                                                                                                    How do I get them? I normally use aim 8-T

                                                                                                                                    edit: and yes, paypal's great
                                                                                                                                    icq: 201430673

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                                                                                                                                      • funkmaster
                                                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                        • 7938
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by igneus
                                                                                                                                        You sent me icq requests? lol

                                                                                                                                        How do I get them? I normally use aim 8-T

                                                                                                                                        edit: and yes, paypal's great
                                                                                                                                        ... well, you posted this UIN 201430673 ... and the nick says igneus ... so that´s not you ?

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                                                                                                                                          • Dildozer
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                            • 7519
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by funkmaster


                                                                                                                                            ... well, you posted this UIN 201430673 ... and the nick says igneus ... so that´s not you ?
                                                                                                                                            nice sig lol
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                                                                                                                                              • bawdy
                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 1424
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by igneus


                                                                                                                                                very cool..

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                                                                                                                                                  • funkmaster
                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                                    • 7938
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Dildozer


                                                                                                                                                    nice sig lol
                                                                                                                                                    ... did you sign up ??

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                                                                                                                                                      • Dildozer
                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                        • 7519
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by funkmaster


                                                                                                                                                        ... did you sign up ??
                                                                                                                                                        won't work
                                                                                                                                                        Spam link here

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                                                                                                                                                          • funkmaster
                                                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                                            • 7938
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Dildozer


                                                                                                                                                            won't work
                                                                                                                                                            ... pretty much like swoit then , LOL !!

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                                                                                                                                                              • funkmaster
                                                                                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                                                • 7938
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                ... thanks igeus, could be some of the best $2500 I have spent this year ... excellent piece of software, you should rise the price now !!

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Brujah
                                                                                                                                                                    Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                    • 22157
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Igneus,

                                                                                                                                                                    Was it 5 names per second now ? Or faster ?

                                                                                                                                                                    Either way, looks good.

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                                                                                                                                                                      • igneus
                                                                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                        • 77
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        It's roughly 5-8/sec now. Once I finish multithreading (starting that now), it should be closer to 30-40+/sec, depending on bandwidth.
                                                                                                                                                                        icq: 201430673

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                                                                                                                                                                          • MSB
                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                            • 2984
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            hit my sig!!!!!!!!


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                                                                                                                                                                              • Swanks
                                                                                                                                                                                Marketing Consultant
                                                                                                                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                • 811
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Works like a charm, excellent program and created by very talented guy. Ill vouch for that,

                                                                                                                                                                                From what ive read up on and heard its not as easy to create as everyone had thought. At least for something similar to igneus'
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • funkmaster
                                                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 7938
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    ... put it this way, I picked up 3 PR6 domains yesterday within 30 min ... ssame stuff would have taken me days without this little proggy ... so is it worth it´s money, yes it is ...

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • nuclei
                                                                                                                                                                                        old school fart
                                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 1015
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by swank
                                                                                                                                                                                        Works like a charm, excellent program and created by very talented guy. Ill vouch for that,

                                                                                                                                                                                        From what ive read up on and heard its not as easy to create as everyone had thought. At least for something similar to igneus'
                                                                                                                                                                                        actually it isnt that hard to do in any language.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Igneus: glad to see yer making some sales

                                                                                                                                                                                        The perl and now php versions we have went like hotcakes to the people we allowed to have it.
                                                                                                                                                                                        The next generation of SEO

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • igneus
                                                                                                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 77
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks nuclei

                                                                                                                                                                                            Quick update (last bit of spam )..I've started off the multithread version with 5 threads and it does about 850 domains/minute (~14/sec--a little less than I anticipated, hehe) now. Upping it to 10 threads didn't seem to have much effect, but it could just be my setup/bandwidth/etc--I'm still tweaking around with it.

                                                                                                                                                                                            The single thread one hangs out at around 5-8 domains/second.

                                                                                                                                                                                            I've been told to only get rid of a few copies, sooo that's what I'll do--icq me if you're still interested.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks for the support funkmaster
                                                                                                                                                                                            icq: 201430673

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • michaelw
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 1342
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • hudson
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    hey...if anyone has it, please post up the russian solution to this problem on a linux platform...thanks in advance ;-)

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