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I don't know all the particulars between gothweb and cyberpunk but I can say this...
Having known cyberpunk for about 4-5 years now, I've NEVER seen him rip off anyone. If anyone knows of a situation where he has please feel free to inform me...I'd find it easier to believe the Star or Enquirer than that...
Is he the speediest guy in regards to all matters....NO, he's busy with a lot more than he lets on
Is he honest about settling shit up, absolutely 100% in my book --- YES
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We will see. Before this, I didn't think of his as dishonest in the slightest. This has obviously soured me on him some, though.
I'd rather work things out than keep fighting. The main reason I have been confrontational at all is that its my whole income, and I can't afford to wait as long between messages as he takes.
Hopefully, he will keep communicating, and we can work something out. I know I'm not going to get the three grand I think I should be. I can accept that, at this point. So maybe we can keep working on it, and come up with something we can both live with.
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right on gothweb, I hear ya
just threaten to kick him hard in the nuttSAC
I hear he responds to that ;)
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Thanks for the encouragement.Originally posted by UncleJimmy
right on gothweb, I hear ya
just threaten to kick him hard in the nuttSAC
I hear he responds to that ;)
for real though, he'll square up fair with ya, I'd be totally in shock if he didn't
Though I think you should see someone about your scrotum obsession. ;)
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Originally posted by UncleJimmy
right on gothweb, I hear ya
just threaten to kick him hard in the nuttSAC
I hear he responds to that ;)
for real though, he'll square up fair with ya, I'd be totally in shock if he didn't
long time no see Jimmy =)
I would have been in shock about it in the past too, cept this is seemingly a recurring thing with him lately. Tho I will say that my main beef with him is not due to him personally, but a partner.Last edited by nuclei; 01-26-2003, 01:58 PM.The next generation of SEOComment
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Generally, including the month he's talking about, it is better than that. But yes, that is the oreder of magnitude I live on. In the three months that are in dispute, the sites took in a bit over $3,000.Originally posted by Brujah
Ian if you made about $500 from the sites for 1 month, is that really about all you were living on ? :/
I'm a student, living on a student budget-- and without a lot of financial padding. That's why this is a big deal to me. I can't afford this.
(Edited for clarity.)Last edited by gothweb; 01-26-2003, 03:56 PM.
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Scrotum obsessions are good, I don't want to see anyone about them, but if they wanna see, it's O-TAY
yeh Nuc, ltns man!
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Sorry to have been absent during all of the fun of this thread...
I've been dealing with some personal issues and the loss of a good friend to the evils of drug addiction.
Ian, you promised to call me back this past week and didn't. You know I've only been online a little the last few days. It's not that I'm washing my hands of it, it's where I am positioned LEGALLY in all of this. If not for my "good cop" shit, your stuff would have disappeared a long time ago.
Fletch, I care very much about what our affiliates and Ian's affiliates are going through with this. Other than our affiliates, I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks.
The reason for bringing in Zoe (who is FAR more than just a board personality) and even the merger with Ian were to strengthen our program and free me up to keep developing new shit instead of fucking around with sorting content, building banners, etc.
To say the merger was a collossal failure of communications and a series of fuckups is very obvious and probably wasn't something that should have been pursued anyways since I always prefer homegrown sites/programs as they don't come with any drama, baggage, surprises, etc.
I truly hope we can work through this and wish the best for Ian and his sites and his future. If this whole drama means we lose a few potential affiliates, so be it. I'm more conerned about those who are already supporting us and am sure Ian feels the same way.
Chloei, CCBill has been re-faxed (AGAIN) and everything should be taken care of tomorrow. I'll call you Tuesday and ensure everything has been restored smoothely.
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skyboy,
thank you - i had been calling you about every day last week with no reply had i know about the friend's death and that you were indeed working on it i would have been a lot less well - obsessive about calling you so much, and i would call cyber but seeing as how i call him everyday and leave a message with no reply as of yet it's been hard.
yet again - cyber - you should really get with me please. i've emailed you 2 emails last night and i know you may not be online yet but when you do i really am begging here - being evicted is *no fun*
Originally posted by SykkBoy2
Sorry to have been absent during all of the fun of this thread...
I've been dealing with some personal issues and the loss of a good friend to the evils of drug addiction.
Ian, you promised to call me back this past week and didn't. You know I've only been online a little the last few days. It's not that I'm washing my hands of it, it's where I am positioned LEGALLY in all of this. If not for my "good cop" shit, your stuff would have disappeared a long time ago.
Fletch, I care very much about what our affiliates and Ian's affiliates are going through with this. Other than our affiliates, I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks.
The reason for bringing in Zoe (who is FAR more than just a board personality) and even the merger with Ian were to strengthen our program and free me up to keep developing new shit instead of fucking around with sorting content, building banners, etc.
To say the merger was a collossal failure of communications and a series of fuckups is very obvious and probably wasn't something that should have been pursued anyways since I always prefer homegrown sites/programs as they don't come with any drama, baggage, surprises, etc.
I truly hope we can work through this and wish the best for Ian and his sites and his future. If this whole drama means we lose a few potential affiliates, so be it. I'm more conerned about those who are already supporting us and am sure Ian feels the same way.
Chloei, CCBill has been re-faxed (AGAIN) and everything should be taken care of tomorrow. I'll call you Tuesday and ensure everything has been restored smoothely.
I'll be back online full time Tuesday for anyone else who is concerned about darkdollars or blood money, as well as those who've lit up my email box about beta testing the new proggie.Comment
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i think zoe was referring to me actually.
and i've been talking with ccbill since early december but they cannot do *anything* until the account is put back in my name, and since well - i've gotten nothing since december from anybody *money, or account* i've sort of been held at hostage so to speak. sux ass but what can you do?
Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Since December Zoe?
Its takes like minutes to get a CC Bill guy on icq, and especially people that have sites already and get things taken care of, you guys act like its always in 'someone elses hands'Comment
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Oh My Fucking God A Responce!!!
*falls down and died, and cries, and dies again*
d00d - have you gotten say ANY of my cell phone messages, i know the past few days have been quite ranty but seeing as how i'm going to be evicted if i dont get some funds in soon i've been sort of say - spastic.
so wow i have you - i dont *want* at ALLLLLL to do this in a public forum but dood you have to talk to me - really now. i am super d00per nice chick but all i want here is communication of any type, and as i said i'd really rather do it NOT in a public forum
so here's a novel idea - call me - even if just to set up a time to talk - reply to one of my emails, or wonderful ICQ messages, log onto AIM - something man i promise i wont kill you i just want to figure out what the royal frell is going on
ok enough ranty girl - i'm just spazzed and i dont want to bring everything into public forum but this is the *only* time you have responded to anything from me in over a month *sighs*
*chants 'write me back write me back write me back' and does a v00d00 dance*
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could you icq me ? 3431124 ?Originally posted by ri0tdorque
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CCBILL has been refaxed again - I just called - they have gotten nothing today regarding change of ownership, they double checked it with everyone in the damn please due to the fact that we just did this last monday.
So no - it has not been faxed and they will be there for another hour and a 1/2 and then for another week I'm broke.
So did you fax it in, or just say you did, yet again?
Originally posted by SykkBoy2
Sorry to have been absent during all of the fun of this thread...
I've been dealing with some personal issues and the loss of a good friend to the evils of drug addiction.
Ian, you promised to call me back this past week and didn't. You know I've only been online a little the last few days. It's not that I'm washing my hands of it, it's where I am positioned LEGALLY in all of this. If not for my "good cop" shit, your stuff would have disappeared a long time ago.
Fletch, I care very much about what our affiliates and Ian's affiliates are going through with this. Other than our affiliates, I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks.
The reason for bringing in Zoe (who is FAR more than just a board personality) and even the merger with Ian were to strengthen our program and free me up to keep developing new shit instead of fucking around with sorting content, building banners, etc.
To say the merger was a collossal failure of communications and a series of fuckups is very obvious and probably wasn't something that should have been pursued anyways since I always prefer homegrown sites/programs as they don't come with any drama, baggage, surprises, etc.
I truly hope we can work through this and wish the best for Ian and his sites and his future. If this whole drama means we lose a few potential affiliates, so be it. I'm more conerned about those who are already supporting us and am sure Ian feels the same way.
Chloei, CCBill has been re-faxed (AGAIN) and everything should be taken care of tomorrow. I'll call you Tuesday and ensure everything has been restored smoothely.
I'll be back online full time Tuesday for anyone else who is concerned about darkdollars or blood money, as well as those who've lit up my email box about beta testing the new proggie.Comment
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nope nope - i just called ccbill today just now actually - they have not gotten a fax from him, or anybody in the company for a change of ownership form, this is not the 4th time in a row i've asked for this to be done, someone said "oh shit yah i will do it" or "it was faxed dont worry" and indeed it was not
*starting to get a bit annoyed here in general, this site is my main source of income, cyberpunk knows this....*
Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe
Ok, I dont know much about the thing happening between you and Cyber, but I got word that we did get all the information and sent it to CCBill, we're just waiting for the processing to finish through. I could be wrong, but I believe that is the reason for the wait.Comment
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What a fucking drag.
Man this shit looks bad, how can a deal with 2 small timers go so fucking sour at the same time? Small sites are usually the ones with the most passion behind them, it sucks to see good people get treated like this.
Good luck Cloei and Ian.
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nope it's me - and i *have* been trying to contact you since december 6th - the last contact we had was on the phone and ccbill was going to close in one hour
i said 'please fax it over....i need money to get home for xmas' and you said 'ok i just have to finish this up and it's all faxed'
that was the first or second week of december man - i not only had nothing for xmas but am now 2 months behind on my damn rent *or will be as of feb 1st* and am royally fucked
and yet AGAIN i just got off the phone with CCBILL - nothing man - i dont know where you are faxing it to but CCBILL is saying that they have gotten nothing from yo today, or last week, or last month so what's up here?
Originally posted by cyberpunk
My bad,
I missed that post, I had thogh this thread was done and over
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thanks - really - i dont know what i'm going to do but as of right now according to my sales rep that both cyberpunk and i have been working with nothing has gone though
NN is indeed small compared to a *lot* of sites, but it makes a pretty penny and for every week that it's not in my name cyberpunk is getting my pretty pennies - so what should i do here?
Originally posted by Fletch XXX
What a fucking drag.
Man this shit looks bad, how can a deal with 2 small timers go so fucking sour at the same time? Small sites are usually the ones with the most passion behind them, it sucks to see good people get treated like this.
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here it is monday - would be peachy to actually have a conversation with you
i *almost* feel sorry for how many messages i've left on your cell phone and ICQ
and then we come into the problem of you've been getting my checks since well november, are you going to pay me back for those?
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i already have i just really didnt want to have to bring it to that.
i've met with a few actually but they all want a retainer and i dont have the 5,000 for one because they have my income righ tnow so i'm double screwed - what fucking fun!!
maybe i'll get lucky and he actually *will* do it this week and then i can deal with the bookoos of money
that and because he is in another country it makes it harder to do write up an injuction *or that's what the first lawyer i met with said* but i'm faxing over all documents this week - i dont want to...i really really really dont, but i dont know what else to do
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This thread looks really shitty.
I feel sorry for those who are in money troubles. If I can do anything to help, please let me know.
I owed a friend some money for work she did for me. She never really wanted to get paid, but I insisted. She finally calls me today because she's in a money bind and needs help. Check is going out tomorrow. Owing people money is a terrible feeling, especially when they're in dire need of it.
None of this is my business, but I really hope everything gets resolved quickly.Last edited by Sly_RJ; 01-27-2003, 02:31 PM.PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price!
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they call me the kevin mitnick ytcrackalacka in the back of the cadillacka. LMAO just kidding, im 20 and a wigger.
no offensive ytcrackalaka! you made a good spammalama bro.
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i have no clue what to think - i mean i was worried and then skyboy started getting a hold of me and told me to calm down that he would make sure cyber pushed the stuff back over - so i thought i was ok - then it never went over and i freaked out again, only i read that cyber said he did it last night and i could confirm today - so i thought i was "ok" again only now not so much with that i mean geeze people
trying to stay calm, trying to remember that shit happens and as long as it is pushed back though or something happens it will be ok - mistakes happen it's how you clean it up - that's what matters
Originally posted by Sly_RJ
This thread looks really shitty.
I feel sorry for those who are in money troubles. If I can do anything to help, please let me know.
I owed a friend some money for work she did for me. She never really wanted to get paid, but I insisted. She finally calls me today because she's in a money bind and needs help. Check is going out tomorrow.
None of this is my business, but I really hope everything gets resolved quickly. Owing people money is a terrible feeling, especially when they're in dire need of it.Comment
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It seems like you and Ian have some problems with being too passive.Originally posted by ri0tdorque
i have no clue what to think - i mean i was worried and then skyboy started getting a hold of me and told me to calm down that he would make sure cyber pushed the stuff back over - so i thought i was ok - then it never went over and i freaked out again, only i read that cyber said he did it last night and i could confirm today - so i thought i was "ok" again only now not so much with that i mean geeze people
trying to stay calm, trying to remember that shit happens and as long as it is pushed back though or something happens it will be ok - mistakes happen it's how you clean it up - that's what matters
Look, you're about to be kicked out of your home. That is NOT something to fuck around with and say "oh, mistakes happen". What will you do when you have no place to stay?
I don't know who owes whom money, but Good God! Get pissed off for Christ sakes!
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heh i'm not calm, i'm freaking out - i'm a wreck, i can barely work on my sites and therefore have lost boocoo memberships
i also have yet to hear, so i dont really know why i'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt, but who the fuck knows
yes i'm upset, but if i get too upset i'll go back to being a wreck and then i wont get any work done...which is bad
Originally posted by Sly_RJ
It seems like you and Ian have some problems with being too passive.
Look, you're about to be kicked out of your home. That is NOT something to fuck around with and say "oh, mistakes happen". What will you do when you have no place to stay?
I don't know who owes whom money, but Good God! Get pissed off for Christ sakes!
I just can't believe some people can be so cool and calm when someone owes them money and their livelihood is on the line.Comment
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Heh, she said frell, another Farscape fan
Ok back to the program...
Originally posted by ri0tdorque
i just want to figure out what the royal frell is going on
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huge farscape fan
Originally posted by DarkestWeb
Heh, she said frell, another Farscape fan
Ok back to the program...
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POLL:
1. Will Ian and Cloei get their ccbill accounts back ?
2. Will it be this week ?
3. Next month ?
4. Never ?
5. Is CCBill stalling it ? Bad support ?
6. Will they get paid whats owed them ?
7. Was it all just a bad dream ?
8. Will DarkestWeb stop quoting Farscape ?
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CCBill also says they have not gotten a fax for my change of ownership. Right now, my sites on cyberpunk's hosting are redirected, and once they are on my server, the ccbill stuff won't be set-up right since I had to finish the file transfer myself and didn't have those files on my hard drive. So basically, I am screwed.
I wonder if any of the faxes were ever sent.
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Yup, I believe The Big U was initially issued before Zodiac. Then, when the author became a name, it was reissued as a trade paperback. The book is okay if it interests you to examine to evolution of the man's writing style, but it ain't exactly Snow Crash or Diamond Age. The Big U is sort of a frat boy Ayn Rand. Entertaining enough read, but I don't know if I would tidy my house to find it. Of course, I might be messier than you.Originally posted by fnet
Has anyone here read Neal Stephensen's "The Big U"? I had it, but lost it before I got to read it.
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hey Amelia, good to see spookycash exists. Is that a 50% recurring partnership or a one-time 50% payout of the initial sale ?- Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com
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I suppose I should bust out a calculator and figure out the exact %, but it is more than 50% of initial. Which sites are yours, Brujah? You a gamer?
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You guys used to pay $4 per signup right ? Thats why I said it was really good to see SpookyCash existed.
I saw the charges to members are $19.xx ( 1 month ) and $59.xx ( 3 month ), and spookycash says it pays $10 and $30 per signup. Thats about 50% of the initial charge if my assumption is right.
If a member renews, do we get credit for rebills too, or is it a 1 time payout ?
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Hi Amelia, how are you?
Quick question, on SpookyLinks, it says "Free Original Content"... I cannot find it anywhere. Can you direct me to the right place please?
Also, can this content be used in creating TGP galleries to promote your affiliate program?
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Yeah, when we launched GothicSluts.com we started off paying four bones. Coming from a magazine background, that seemed like a lot to me then. As I've gotten more into the web side of things, I just came to the conclusion that a higher payout would make sense now. I'm involved in launching a new magazine called Swag and I definitely won't have the same time to promote the sites I did before. Personally, I am more inclined to promote programs which state dollar amounts than percentages. I know that there are certain sites which will claim to pay x percentage, but what they do not tell you is that they figure that % after they take out the billing processing fees and that almost nobody ever renews after their couple o' dollar trial period. I'm always open to suggestions and special partner content for special needs sites etc. You all are actually getting a preview of the SpookyCash.com site now. It is in the process of launching this week.
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Hi Voodoo, you know I like your site. :-) We are still working on the automation for the partner content area now. If you have any special ideas for featured galleries to run on your site or whatever, please feel free to e-mail me at [email protected] It is actually on my to-do list to drop you a line and ask you if you had any thoughts on special promos we could do. Now I get to check it off. Whoo-hoo!
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Oh yeah. I got some ideas for ya! ;-)Originally posted by AmeliaG
Hi Voodoo, you know I like your site. :-) We are still working on the automation for the partner content area now. If you have any special ideas for featured galleries to run on your site or whatever, please feel free to e-mail me at [email protected] It is actually on my to-do list to drop you a line and ask you if you had any thoughts on special promos we could do. Now I get to check it off. Whoo-hoo!
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hey i know your sites *bounces up and down and waves hihi!*
if for some reason the site gods swing favor in my way and i get my sites back i can start pimping again woohoo
hard to pimp a site when *none* of the money you make goes to you you know anywho *waves again*
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Yeah, when we launched GothicSluts.com we started off paying four bones. Coming from a magazine background, that seemed like a lot to me then. As I've gotten more into the web side of things, I just came to the conclusion that a higher payout would make sense now. I'm involved in launching a new magazine called Swag and I definitely won't have the same time to promote the sites I did before. Personally, I am more inclined to promote programs which state dollar amounts than percentages. I know that there are certain sites which will claim to pay x percentage, but what they do not tell you is that they figure that % after they take out the billing processing fees and that almost nobody ever renews after their couple o' dollar trial period. I'm always open to suggestions and special partner content for special needs sites etc. You all are actually getting a preview of the SpookyCash.com site now. It is in the process of launching this week.
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so they did not do your either - *sighs*
i'm hoping and praying i hear from skyy today - zoe ICQ'd me last night saying she was going to call them but never logged back on ICQ so after today i'm going to just have to move everything over, and start with the whole lawyer thing - however if i get evicted i'm going to be offline for a bit
Originally posted by gothweb
CCBill also says they have not gotten a fax for my change of ownership. Right now, my sites on cyberpunk's hosting are redirected, and once they are on my server, the ccbill stuff won't be set-up right since I had to finish the file transfer myself and didn't have those files on my hard drive. So basically, I am screwed.
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Originally posted by ri0tdorque
hey i know your sites *bounces up and down and waves hihi!*
if for some reason the site gods swing favor in my way and i get my sites back i can start pimping again woohoo
hard to pimp a site when *none* of the money you make goes to you you know anywho *waves again*
*waves back*
I hope you don't get evicted. Aren't you in Boston? brrr
I lived in the Y there for around a month one winter, though, and it was pretty cheap and fairly well-heated and it was walking distance from the street with Newberry Comics and all that. What is the name of that street and why can't I think of it right now?
Good luck. Sending positive thoughts your way.
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