How many realize how bad the drought is in the South West?

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  • dyna mo
    just a fucking jerk
    • Dec 2008
    • 68184

    #51
    btw, it's 102f here right now.

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    • deltav
      Confirmed User
      • May 2010
      • 1243

      #52
      I don't understand why there's an argument over whether there are forests outside Phoenix. Tonto NF doesn't have endless miles of misty old-growth redwoods, but there are most definitely pine forests in the higher elevations. There's even a small timber industry in the area IIRC.
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      • Paul
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2002
        • 2637

        #53
        Excellent article by The Guardian about the global water shortages and the long term implications

        http://www.theguardian.com/environme...eat-terror-war

        A couple of quotes

        The United Arab Emirates, faced with a growing population, has invested in desalination projects and is harvesting rainwater. At an international water conference in Abu Dhabi last year, Crown Prince General Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan said: "For us, water is [now] more important than oil."
        That's quite a statement!

        The losses of water reserves are staggering. In seven years, beginning in 2003, parts of Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran along the Tigris and Euphrates rivers lost 144 cubic kilometres of stored freshwater ? or about the same amount of water in the Dead Sea, according to data compiled by the Grace mission and released last year.
        "We are standing on a cliff looking over the edge and we have to decide what we are going to do," he said.

        "Are we just going to plunge into this next epic drought and tremendous, never-before-seen rates of groundwater depletion, or are we going to buckle down and start thinking of managing critical reserve for the long term? We are standing on a precipice here."
        Regions at risk

        1) California
        2) Brazil
        3) Middle East
        4) North Africa
        5) South Asia
        6) China

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        • _Richard_
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Oct 2006
          • 30989

          #54
          Originally posted by Paul
          Excellent article by The Guardian about the global water shortages and the long term implications

          http://www.theguardian.com/environme...eat-terror-war

          A couple of quotes



          That's quite a statement!





          Regions at risk

          1) California
          2) Brazil
          3) Middle East
          4) North Africa
          5) South Asia
          6) China
          why just california and not all of the US? i thought North America / US had huge aquifer issues?

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          • scubadiver626
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2006
            • 1034

            #55
            In parts of the world a coke costs more than a bottle of water.
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            • deltav
              Confirmed User
              • May 2010
              • 1243

              #56
              Originally posted by _Richard_
              why just california and not all of the US? i thought North America / US had huge aquifer issues?
              It's true, but that southwestern quarter of the USA is going to be at the forefront of this crisis. When shit goes down for reals they'll feel it a generation or two before everyone else.
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              • dyna mo
                just a fucking jerk
                • Dec 2008
                • 68184

                #57
                I wonder how much water that nuke plant outside phx sucks up? I think that's all siphoned off the colorado also, can't recall there being any rivers at that site. Pretty sure that's one of the biggest, if not biggest, nuke plants in US. nuts.

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                • dyna mo
                  just a fucking jerk
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 68184

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Paul
                  Excellent article by The Guardian about the global water shortages and the long term implications

                  http://www.theguardian.com/environme...eat-terror-war


                  The Pacific Institute, which studies issues of water and global security, found a fourfold increase in violent confrontations over water over the last decade. "
                  water will be the ultimate divider.

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                  • Paul
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 2637

                    #59
                    Originally posted by _Richard_
                    why just california and not all of the US? i thought North America / US had huge aquifer issues?
                    I didn't write the article

                    Perhaps those listed where in the most trouble atm, I dunno!

                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                    water will be the ultimate divider.
                    Yup

                    It's a real fuckin shame we haven't evolved enough to work together as a species towards a common goal. Too busy trying to find ways to fuck each other over in the short term not realising we're just fucking everyone in the long run.

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                    • InfoGuy
                      80/20 Rule
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 3052

                      #60
                      Desalinization is much more expensive and only available to areas bordering large bodies of natural water. More R&D needs to be done with Atmospheric water generators that can extract water vapor from air into drinkable water. Consumer models are available for $1-2k. With larger economies of scale, the prices would drop enough for them to be affordable for most non-3rd world households. However, someone needs to design industrial sized machines capable of generating enough water for agriculture and irrigation.
                      Last edited by InfoGuy; 05-15-2014, 03:17 PM.
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                      • barelist
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                        • Jan 2009
                        • 523

                        #61
                        No pics of "Lake Travis"?

                        We live in Bee Cave a few minutes away, pretty sad...

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