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  • BJ
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    • Mar 2002
    • 5590

    #1

    Revenue or Profit?

    which is more important?
  • Arton
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    • Jan 2011
    • 270

    #2
    I vote for profit, its your cash after you paid all bills
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    • InfoGuy
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      • Apr 2010
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      #3
      Originally posted by BJ
      which is more important?
      If you need to ask that question, you shouldn't be operating your own business, but working for someone else.
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      • iSpyCams
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        • May 2009
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        #4
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        • BIGTYMER
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          • Nov 2004
          • 17066

          #5
          Gross Revenue - Expenses = Net/Profit

          Profit for the win!

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          • Chosen
            • Aug 2001
            • 63151

            #6
            Profit

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            • seeandsee
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              #7
              Profit, i cant eat based of revenue and negative balance :D
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              • Caligari
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                • Jarmusch
                   
                  • May 2003
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                  #9
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                  • onlytease
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                    • Sep 2003
                    • 1553

                    #10
                    Originally posted by InfoGuy
                    If you need to ask that question, you shouldn't be operating your own business, but working for someone else.
                    what he says

                    turnover is irrelevant - profit is what counts
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                    • ErectMedia
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                      • Aug 2004
                      • 7100

                      #11
                      Profit

                      If you have revenue with low profit margin then you either need to optimize to try and reduce your operating expenses to increase your margin or increase your customer base where low profit margin x a shitload of people makes ya happy. More customers equals more support etc... so i would always aim to increase margin instead of turning into Walmart.

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                      • bronco67
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 29026

                        #12
                        How can you have profit without revenue?

                        I guess that would make revenue more important. Dumb question anyway.

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                        • BIGTYMER
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                          • Nov 2004
                          • 17066

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bronco67
                          How can you have profit without revenue?

                          I guess that would make revenue more important. Dumb question anyway.
                          You can have revenue and no profit.

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                          • Sly
                            Let's do some business!
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 31378

                            #14
                            Personally I think that it depends where you are in the development cycle. Are you not profitable because you aren't creating enough revenue? Or are you not profitable because you are heavily reinvesting into new projects?

                            Profit is great but I would rather have $1M revenue monthly and $5K profit with heavy investing into current or new projects than $50K revenue monthly and $5K profit with no investment.

                            Profit today, this minute, is short-term thinking. Think about profit X 10 in 5 years.
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                            • kush
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                              • Feb 2001
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sly
                              Personally I think that it depends where you are in the development cycle. Are you not profitable because you aren't creating enough revenue? Or are you not profitable because you are heavily reinvesting into new projects?

                              Profit is great but I would rather have $1M revenue monthly and $5K profit with heavy investing into current or new projects than $50K revenue monthly and $5K profit with no investment.

                              Profit today, this minute, is short-term thinking. Think about profit X 10 in 5 years.
                              Agreed. I'd take my company making $0 profit if all my employees are well paid and happy and we're stable vs my company making a small profit with everyone being paid little.

                              It all depends how you look at it and your situation.

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                              • RyuLion
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 32369

                                #16
                                Originally posted by BIGTYMER
                                Gross Revenue - Expenses = Net/Profit

                                Profit for the win!

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                                • ilnjscb
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2009
                                  • 8957

                                  #17
                                  In general profit, but there are cases where growing revenue is better.

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                                  • gideongallery
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                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 7082

                                    #18
                                    totally depends on your knowledge level

                                    if the way the business is optimized is better then you know how to do

                                    profits

                                    if you see thing you can do fix wasting of money/resources revenue

                                    i would buy a business that has crappy profits but great revenue if is see flaws that i know how to fix

                                    simply because i can low ball offer the person because the profits suck, fix the problems and just rake in the cash.

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                                    • AmeliaG
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                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 10664

                                      #19
                                      You can optimize for revenue -- if you feel your specific product or more general company market position benefits best from being big -- or you can optimize for profit -- if, for example, you are looking to keep an organization lean and nimble. But that is an issue of what you optimize for. At the end of the day, unless you are winning through some complex combo of political favors and special business math, you have to have a profit.
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                                      • marlboroack
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                                        • Jul 2010
                                        • 9327

                                        #20
                                        I would say profit, but sometimes revanue is a life saver. Profit is not.

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                                        • raymor
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                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 3745

                                          #21
                                          It also depends on if it's a new versus mature market. Today to some extent but definitely three years ago, the smart phone companies were correctly focused on growing revenue as an indicator of market share, not on profit. When I started on the web, many SEs were battling to grow to be the biggest. None were profitable, it was all about getting the biggest piece of a growing market. Google won of course, beating Altavista, Hotbot, Excite and the rest. NOW is the time for them to profit.

                                          Except in a growth cycle or certain other special cases, I'd say definitely profit. Growth is certainly valuable, though, so I'd easily give up profit for now of I could trade it for fast growth.
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                                          • CyberHustler
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                                            • Feb 2006
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                                            #22
                                            "small profit, quick return, that's how we blew up
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                                            • fuzebox
                                              making it rain
                                              • Oct 2003
                                              • 22355

                                              #23
                                              Revenue. Volume talks and profit can come later.

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                                              • jimmycooper
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                                                • May 2010
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Sly
                                                Personally I think that it depends where you are in the development cycle. Are you not profitable because you aren't creating enough revenue? Or are you not profitable because you are heavily reinvesting into new projects?

                                                Profit is great but I would rather have $1M revenue monthly and $5K profit with heavy investing into current or new projects than $50K revenue monthly and $5K profit with no investment.

                                                Profit today, this minute, is short-term thinking. Think about profit X 10 in 5 years.
                                                Great post.

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                                                • RayBonga
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                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                  • 12164

                                                  #25
                                                  Cashflow is more important.

                                                  By order of importance:
                                                  1st - Current cashflow + potential future cashflow
                                                  2nd - Current profit + potential future profit
                                                  3rd - Current revenues+ potential future revenues

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                                                  • martinsc
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                                                    • Jun 2005
                                                    • 27043

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Jarmusch
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                                                    • Adraco
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                                                      • May 2009
                                                      • 3745

                                                      #27
                                                      Revenue

                                                      If you have the revenue, you can almost always do some tweaks, shop around for lower prices and make your own operation run more efficient. Always try to make the extra sale, as long as it covers it's own marketing costs and what not.
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                                                      • mineistaken
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                                                        • Apr 2007
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                                                        #28
                                                        To those who say profit - what would you rather have? 1.000.000 revenue and 100 profit or 1000 revenue and 200 profit?
                                                        Its not so simple and like somenone said it depend on where you are in business development cycle.

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                                                        • slapass
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                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 14625

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Sly
                                                          Personally I think that it depends where you are in the development cycle. Are you not profitable because you aren't creating enough revenue? Or are you not profitable because you are heavily reinvesting into new projects?

                                                          Profit is great but I would rather have $1M revenue monthly and $5K profit with heavy investing into current or new projects than $50K revenue monthly and $5K profit with no investment.

                                                          Profit today, this minute, is short-term thinking. Think about profit X 10 in 5 years.

                                                          well said.

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                                                          • Zoxxa
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                                                            • Feb 2011
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                                                            #30
                                                            I would prefer revenue with the path focus being to sell the business down the road for a large chunk of cash to someone who could integrate my business into theirs. My business may be unprofitable to me, but maybe not to google who could buy me out.
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                                                            • HandballJim
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                                                              • Sep 2008
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                                                              #31
                                                              profit
                                                              HOW I MAKE LOTS OF $$$

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                                                              • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                                • Jun 2010
                                                                • 18083

                                                                #32
                                                                net revenue v. gross profit ...

                                                                you cannot make up losses on revenue.

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