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  • plsureking
    bored
    • Aug 2003
    • 4909
    #101
    Originally posted by Paul Markham
    will76 you're assuming I thought your ideas were worth listening to. Just because you speak doesn't mean it's something I think is worth listening to. Did anyone else listen?
    Paul, the shoe will be on the other foot when u try to find buyers for your book. i doubt more than 5 people will think its "worth listening to".

    i, for one, hope u sell thousands, so u can finally save up enough to retire and get off the boards. you don't have very many fans here. u just annoy people. that can't be the way you want to spend your golden years.

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      • Paul Markham
        Too old to care
        • Jun 2001
        • 52942
        #102
        Originally posted by plsureking
        Paul, the shoe will be on the other foot when u try to find buyers for your book. i doubt more than 5 people will think its "worth listening to".

        i, for one, hope u sell thousands, so u can finally save up enough to retire and get off the boards. you don't have very many fans here. u just annoy people. that can't be the way you want to spend your golden years.

        I hope it will sell, but if it doesn't it's a nice thing to put everything down that I've learnt over the years.

        As for retiring. I had more than enough to retire to Thailand in 1998. Planned to do it in 2000 when I would of been 50.

        Met Eva, fell in love, got married and the rest is history. She's not the kind of girl to sit on a beach for long.

        Like getting fans on GFY is an achievement.

        Go set your goals higher.



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          • plsureking
            bored
            • Aug 2003
            • 4909
            #103
            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            I hope it will sell, but if it doesn't it's a nice thing to put everything down that I've learnt over the years.

            As for retiring. I had more than enough to retire to Thailand in 1998. Planned to do it in 2000 when I would of been 50.

            Met Eva, fell in love, got married and the rest is history. She's not the kind of girl to sit on a beach for long.

            Like getting fans on GFY is an achievement.

            Go set your goals higher.
            funny how dim-witted people respond to an argument with the original argument. i am not trying to win fans, you are. i don't write 10,000 words a day on gfy, you do.

            you are a 60-year old broke geriatric patient. it is sad but its not my problem. trying to insult me won't change your pathetic predicament.

            retirement means not having to chase a buck all day. it doesn't matter where you retire, or how many dependents you have to pay for, as long as you can afford to do it. and you cannot.

            i dont care what you had nearly 15 years ago. it only matters what you have today (and tomorrow). there's hundreds of thousands of guys near-retirement who lost their entire savings over the last 2-3 years. should they all come to gfy and talk about how cool they were 2 decades ago? will that help them retire? i think not.

            if you had enough to retire in Thailand in 1998, you would be out of money now. the baht is different now than it was in 1998 and costs are higher. a lot of the old guys who did retire here last century have had to go home and get jobs because of economic conditions and the baht (and especially the pound). learn about inflation if you ever plan to actually retire.

            you think i should retire now since i have half a million in my retirement fund. thats the kind of thinking that would see me broke like you in less than 10 years. i have to cover my wife and kids long after i die. that's nearly 100 years of coverage and will take $2 million+. the fact that you don't know how much it costs to retire shows that you don't know shit about retirement - and you are definitely not retired.

            you need that meager income from your sites and stores to pay your bills and feed your wife. at 60+, that's pretty fucking sad. all you do is talk about the past - as if that is going to somehow support you in the future.

            reply with more smilies, but the facts are not changing. unfortunately, you will still be slinging the same bullshit here in 5 years, still pretending to be retired. a little humility would go a long way...

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              • DamianJ
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jul 2006
                • 15808
                #104
                Originally posted by will76
                the funny thing is you are worst than paul.
                Funny thing is you don't understand worse and worst mean different things!

                Anyhoo, how did your plagiarism project work out?

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                  • DamianJ
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 15808
                    #105
                    Originally posted by plsureking
                    Paul, the shoe will be on the other foot when u try to find buyers for your book. i doubt more than 5 people will think its "worth listening to".

                    i, for one, hope u sell thousands, so u can finally save up enough to retire and get off the boards. you don't have very many fans here. u just annoy people. that can't be the way you want to spend your golden years.

                    Absolutely. This is why I challenged the coward to put the (entirely ficticious pdf (do stop calling it a book)) on scribd or something where the number of downloads will be publicly available.

                    He ignored that clear and simple challenge.

                    Probably because the whole idea of the pdf is a lie.

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                      • DamianJ
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 15808
                        #106
                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                        Bought Eva, fell in love, got married and the rest is history. She's not the kind of girl to sit on a beach for long.
                        No way! She's too busy making cups of tea and answering the phone in her new job.

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                          • Rochard
                            Jägermeister Test Pilot
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 75733
                            #107
                            Three words: Magic Join Pages.

                            When someone is telling you about how great their site is converting and their join pages don't even work, well, that tells you everything you need to know.
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                            Brooklyn, NY

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                              • Paul Markham
                                Too old to care
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 52942
                                #108
                                Originally posted by DamianJ
                                Absolutely. This is why I challenged the coward to put the (entirely ficticious pdf (do stop calling it a book)) on scribd or something where the number of downloads will be publicly available.

                                He ignored that clear and simple challenge.

                                Probably because the whole idea of the pdf is a lie.
                                When it comes to being stupid you're second to none. No wonder you have to sell your domains. you can't afford to renew them.

                                If you do a search here http://www.gfy.com/search.php?searchid=3735556

                                You'll find some of the articles I've written over the years. They form the basis of the E Book. I have no need to show it here yet. And no need to prove to you anything. The proof that you're a liar is already out there. More will come soon, just booked the model and location for the fictitious $3,000 shoot. $3,000 for a few hours work, feels like the old days.

                                Eva does make tea and answer the phone in her new job. What will you do in yours, flip burgers?



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                                  • DamianJ
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jul 2006
                                    • 15808
                                    #109
                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                    When it comes to being stupid you're second to none.
                                    Quoth the man who claimed you could learn nothing from books. In a thread about a made up book he pretends he is writing.

                                    Zounds, irony!

                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                    If you do a search here http://www.gfy.com/search.php?searchid=3735556

                                    You'll find some of the articles I've written over the years.
                                    a) More irony. Nothing there. You are so shit at the internet.

                                    b) Articles suggests someone asked you to write them, like the GFY educational series I was invited to contribute to (and you weren't for SOME reason!). I imagine they were just posts.

                                    c) I bet they all say you are great, everyone else is an idiot for selling exclusive, that DVDs and mags were awesome and that you are really rich.

                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                    They form the basis of the E Book. I have no need to show it here yet. And no need to prove to you anything.
                                    I'm not asking for proof, love. How can you prove something I know doesn't exist?

                                    There is no ebook. There is no publisher. You are a liar. Simples.

                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                    The proof that you're a liar is already out there.
                                    Well, not really. There's proof you got annoyed with me.

                                    You have no proof I've lied. Where as you have a demonstrable track record. AND you think it's funny. And you do it to promote your old content.

                                    /me shakes head.

                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                    More will come soon, just booked the model and location for the fictitious $3,000 shoot. $3,000 for a few hours work, feels like the old days.
                                    Can't wait to see it!

                                    *wink wink*

                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                    Eva does make tea and answer the phone in her new job.
                                    I thought you said you forced her out to work because she was bored and needed stimulation? You think making tea will do that?

                                    Sad how you value your 'wife' so little. You seem to value her even less than the money you paid for her.

                                    Does the marriage agency get a cut of her salary?

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                                      • Farang
                                        one sick puppy
                                        • Oct 2004
                                        • 11718
                                        #110
                                        Hopefully I will not sound like Paul when/if I get old...
                                        fbm

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                                          • plsureking
                                            bored
                                            • Aug 2003
                                            • 4909
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by Farang
                                            Hopefully I will not sound like Paul when/if I get old...
                                            man thats all there is to say, really. lol

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                                              • Paul Markham
                                                Too old to care
                                                • Jun 2001
                                                • 52942
                                                #112
                                                Originally posted by Farang
                                                Hopefully I will not sound like Paul when/if I get old...
                                                I said the same about my Dad.

                                                When you've been there, done it and have the scars to prove it you speak with hindsight.

                                                I said 10 years ago that putting up cheap sites and spending as much as possible on traffic was bad a long term business plan. I was told my brand of teen porn wasn't what they wanted. Was told that I was clueless and the surfers wanted cheap porn and traffic was king.

                                                Now we have sites like Brazzers, Twistys, Only Tease and tons and tons of teen sites that look exactly like we shot. Ex GF sites can only pay crap for content. Well it's crap to my thinking.

                                                Traffic isn't king, getting 1-5,000 to buy something is king. If you need 5,000 porn surfers, not clicks on a banner, to get a sign up the product is wrong.

                                                Even the best sites and affiliates ratios are lucky to convert at 99.5%. That's 499 people saying no thank you.

                                                And a lot of those who told me I wouldn't last. Didn't last and are long gone.



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                                                  • Django
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Jul 2010
                                                    • 2578
                                                    #113
                                                    in this thread there are the absolute worst pics I saw in my life ... until now, of course.

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                                                      • DamianJ
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jul 2006
                                                        • 15808
                                                        #114
                                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                        I said the same about my Dad.

                                                        When you've been there, done it and have the scars to prove it you speak with hindsight.

                                                        I said 10 years ago that putting up cheap sites and spending as much as possible on traffic was bad a long term business plan. I was told my brand of teen porn wasn't what they wanted. Was told that I was clueless and the surfers wanted cheap porn and traffic was king.

                                                        Now we have sites like Brazzers, Twistys, Only Tease and tons and tons of teen sites that look exactly like we shot. Ex GF sites can only pay crap for content. Well it's crap to my thinking.

                                                        Traffic isn't king, getting 1-5,000 to buy something is king. If you need 5,000 porn surfers, not clicks on a banner, to get a sign up the product is wrong.

                                                        Even the best sites and affiliates ratios are lucky to convert at 99.5%. That's 499 people saying no thank you.

                                                        And a lot of those who told me I wouldn't last. Didn't last and are long gone.
                                                        STOP THE PRESS?

                                                        Are you suggesting spending money on content is important?

                                                        You should have fucking said!

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                                                          • Bladewire
                                                            StraightBro
                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                            • 56228
                                                            #115
                                                            Last edited by Bladewire; 04-14-2011, 03:08 PM.


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                                                              • will76
                                                                Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                • May 2003
                                                                • 18037
                                                                #116
                                                                Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                Funny thing is you don't understand worse and worst mean different things!

                                                                Anyhoo, how did your plagiarism project work out?
                                                                LOL you don't know what plagiarism means, dumb ass. You have proof that I committed plagiarism as you are implying here? nope, then shut the fuck up. thanks.
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                                                                  • will76
                                                                    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                    • 18037
                                                                    #117
                                                                    Originally posted by Squirtit
                                                                    Looks like Paul just got hired by Sally Rand and his boyfriend.




                                                                    Paul is shooting all of Marion's new porn stuff.
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                                                                      • Bladewire
                                                                        StraightBro
                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                        • 56228
                                                                        #118
                                                                        Oh THAT explains this clip of him on saw on Cam4! .. interesting



                                                                        Originally posted by will76
                                                                        Looks like Paul just got hired by Sally Rand and his boyfriend.




                                                                        Paul is shooting all of Marion's new porn stuff.


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                                                                          • Choker
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                            • 9024
                                                                            #119
                                                                            Pauls continuing breakdown live on GFY. Entertaining thats for sure
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                                                                              • Paul Markham
                                                                                Too old to care
                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                • 52942
                                                                                #120
                                                                                Originally posted by Squirtit
                                                                                If you can afford $3,000 a solo girl scene yes hire me. If you want me to work for peanuts, fuck off. I can earn more shooting weddings.

                                                                                Can I have some of these images please? They funny and very good.



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                                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                    • 52942
                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    Originally posted by Choker
                                                                                    Pauls continuing breakdown live on GFY. Entertaining thats for sure
                                                                                    I told people 10 years ago that the business model of giving away tons of free porn and selling crap sites was a flawed model and would lead to the decline of the business. Even you agree with me, now selling to Tubes and saying the price of traffic has plummeted.

                                                                                    The continual breakdown of this business is amusing to watch.

                                                                                    Read this.

                                                                                    Porn was never massed marketed until the Internet. It didn't have to be. From Playboy down to Max Hardcore they knew their core market would find them. The only marketing that really counted was getting the product on the shelves. The end users who buy will find it most of the time. Be it a Playboy on the top shelf or a video in a porn shop.

                                                                                    The Adult Internet professionals were under the illusion that millions who would buy porn but couldn't would if it was more available. Wouldn't buy a Playboy or Penthouse?

                                                                                    So they started out spending a fortune marketing. Which was mostly giving away free porn. Suddenly they had millions looking at porn, and a tiny % buying. They never considered that instead of giving access to millions to buy, they gave access to millions to not to buy.

                                                                                    Tubes exposed something porn professionals always knew. The core market is a 20 minute market. They look at porn, jerk off and get back on with their lives. Few read a magazine cover to cover and few watch a film start to end. They watch, wank, cum and get on with their lives.

                                                                                    Giving away millions of free images on a TGP, meant millions who had to buy a magazine, now didn't have to.

                                                                                    To make "marketing" more saturated affiliates were paid far too much, given far too many tools and everything else they wanted. The members area of sites were built on content to satisfy affiliates needs and not customers needs. The result was obvious, many large sponsors most active servers were the ones that hosted the free content. The traffic consuming free content was far in excess of the traffic spending money.

                                                                                    Many many people people could build an affiliate program, some better than others, but the proof is there. If it's so hard how are so many able to do it?

                                                                                    Being an affiliates is about the easiest thing possible online. If not there are 10,000s of very clever people.

                                                                                    All dedicated to giving the consumer his 20 minutes of pleasure. Without paying.

                                                                                    Some for a while earned a great living, some earned a good living and the majority eared a living.

                                                                                    By satisfying a 20 minute need for free you lost your core market in porn. Why buy 43,200 minutes recurring when 20 minutes is free, every time you need it. Tubes proved this principal spot on. Now people who were giving away 20 minutes of pleasure agree with me. Because someone else is giving it away better than they are.
                                                                                    Of course it's all wrong, sales are soaring, there has never been so much money in porn. Because we give so much away for free.



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                                                                                      • BAKO
                                                                                        https://traffichaus.com/
                                                                                        • Jul 2005
                                                                                        • 18478
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        I have Magic joins for Paul
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                                                                                          • Paul Markham
                                                                                            Too old to care
                                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                                            • 52942
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Many will disagree because for a little while they earned a living, none will think what they could of earned if they hadn't of satisfied so many porn users for free.

                                                                                            Imagine one more of the 1,000 looking at a gallery for free on the Hun, actually bought a membership. Or 100. That's a crazy thought isn't it.

                                                                                            Gallery traffic in mainstream niches was lucky to convert at 1-1,000 viewers of the gallery, not those who could be bothered to click on the banner. They were a very tiny number of the potential market getting off for free for 20 minutes.

                                                                                            It's a time when a bird in the hand isn't better than two in the bush.
                                                                                            Last edited by Paul Markham; 04-15-2011, 12:39 AM.



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                                                                                              • DamianJ
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jul 2006
                                                                                                • 15808
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                Originally posted by will76
                                                                                                LOL you don't know what plagiarism means, dumb ass. You have proof that I committed plagiarism as you are implying here? nope, then shut the fuck up. thanks.
                                                                                                Erm, you posted asking for people to copy a site for you...

                                                                                                That's what plagiarism means in England.

                                                                                                I can draw you a pic if you are still struggling.

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                                                                                                  • Bladewire
                                                                                                    StraightBro
                                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                                    • 56228
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    They are all yours Paul do with them what you please

                                                                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                    If you can afford $3,000 a solo girl scene yes hire me. If you want me to work for peanuts, fuck off. I can earn more shooting weddings.

                                                                                                    Can I have some of these images please? They funny and very good.


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                                                                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                                                                        Too old to care
                                                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                                                        • 52942
                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        Originally posted by Squirtit
                                                                                                        They are all yours Paul do with them what you please
                                                                                                        Thanks, they're great. Will use one as my avatar.

                                                                                                        What do you think trolls?
                                                                                                        Last edited by Paul Markham; 04-15-2011, 01:37 AM.



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                                                                                                          • Bladewire
                                                                                                            StraightBro
                                                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                                                            • 56228
                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            Looks great in my sig too

                                                                                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                            Thanks, they're great. Will use one as my avatar.


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                                                                                                              • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                Too old to care
                                                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                • 52942
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                At very first ratios were bad. Yes bad. With only 1-100 it's 99% saying no. That's not a good ratio.

                                                                                                                As time went on ratios got worse. The problem was hidden because millions lore were coming online. But users from where?



                                                                                                                If that's to be believed the growth in our core market area, the US, over the last 10 years wasn't that great. But with more buying, the fact that a lot more were viewing for free was ignored. And instead of being a porn industry devoted to creating and selling porn it became a pseudo marketing industry dedicated to giving the product away.

                                                                                                                Tube were the inevitable point this trend would go to. All supported by sponsors, without them funding the affiliates it would of died out over night.

                                                                                                                Now Tubes obviously give more than enough away the effect of free porn is clear to everyone. No one thinks that giving it away in small doses, 1,000s of times had a similar effect. They only point to the 1 who signed up and ignore the 100s or even 1,000s who didn't. The 100s or 1,000s of potential customers. Yes if they were looking at your gallery on the Hun they are potential customers. The problem of billing them is the only problem.

                                                                                                                Unless they can jerk off for free.

                                                                                                                But I'm wrong and you're right. Millions were to be made. The Billions lost are irrelevant. Traffic is king and the game is to get the most traffic. Even though the sites with the most traffic always had the worse ratios.

                                                                                                                Even when a customer did buy, what were the odds on him staying, what were the odds on him getting ripped off and what were the odds on him buying again? Even today many are happy to earn a few dollars sending traffic to dating sites which con customers and don't offer anything like the service free dating sites do. Spend money on Tubes that are crucifying Paysites, so stabbing themselves in the back. Just to earn a few dollars more. Which is turning out to be a few dollars less every day.



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                                                                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                    • 52942
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    If you think about it no industry in it's right mind sticks a huge expensive buffer between it's shops and it's shoppers. Do you see people on the high street, in a mall handing out bottles of beer (or what ever) for free in any amount the shopper wants. While trying to sell a months supply of beer AND paying out 50%ish of it's turn over to hand out the "free" bottles of beer?

                                                                                                                    No only the Adult Internet came up with that brilliant business plan. And that's exactly what they did.

                                                                                                                    If in 2000 a bunch of sites had said "Fuck it" and cut rev share back to 10%, cut the support down to the bare minimum and cut the price of membership to $20. The sites charging $30 would soon of whithered. Because the "The higher the price the more will buy" will soon become bullshit. The customers would of realised the $30 did not ensure a better product, in fact it could of been a worse product. Because the sites paying out 10% could of spent the extra inside the site.

                                                                                                                    As for getting traffic, buying a few spots and banners on top TGP sites would of solved that problem.

                                                                                                                    No that was too much of a decent business plan. We not only spent a fortune building this buffer, we made sure it became more attractive to 99% of porn surfer than buying porn. 99% would of been great, imagine 1-100 people surfing porn actually buying porn.

                                                                                                                    That would make most of you millionaires, if you owed a paysite.

                                                                                                                    We built and paid for our own devastation.

                                                                                                                    Yes I'm sure afew of you made millions, back in the good old days. Robbie did well, but he was part of the "Giving away free beer business plan." And I'm sure if affiliates weren't paid 50%, given every tool possible many would never of made it.

                                                                                                                    How many customers would that of cost the online business?

                                                                                                                    None in fact if the supply of free porn had died in 2000 customers would be clambering for the credit cards. In greater numbers. We made sure they didn't have to do that. And found every useless excuse possible to hide the fact.



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