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Originally Posted by gleem
Nathan is by far my fave program owner, can become a keyboard warrior like the average shmuck here, except he's got the game to back up the talk.
Can I fly up there and shadow you for a week? I need to get 70 signups a day too.
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The sites and traffic I had were easy to get 70 signups a day for a particular sponsor. I promote over 400 programs...though I have nothing for traffic now. All my old surfers are over at Pornhub now.
As for Fabian...he's a clown. He's NEVER made sales in his life in this business. He had NOTHING to do with Mansef/Brazzers climb to the top. And now he's just running his dick skinners as a front guy. I have no respect for him as somebody who actually has done anything. His whole track record was building NATS in the beginning.
The only affilate program he TRIED to run...died in a matter of months.
He can try to talk crap all day long...but I can guarantee you there was indeed a time when my ex-partner and I were amongst the biggest affiliates that Jug Cash had...and they were only one of our "middle" performing programs that we pushed.
Doesn't really mean anything. Just saying that TODAY they are not an easy sell.
And yeah, I remember about a year or so ago that Roald did post that they had sold a ton of $5 memberships to Jug Cash (I think it was 5 bucks, but if not it was some cool heavily discounted membership promo) And the numbers he spoke of were real good for the amount of traffic they have.
But the rest of us affiliates out here are hard pressed to make a sale on Jug Cash. I pretty much stopped pushing them last year except for all the old stuff I have up everywhere.
And in 2010 I had zero new sales with them. The reason? Because I was down to 1:3078 in 2009 and I decided to stop pushing them much. In 2010 I only sent a little traffic and ended up 0:9253
So maybe some affiliates in 2010 pushed it and did make some good money? I don't know.
I just know that at the height of my super "powers" (lol), they were a "middle" program for me. Not bad. Not great. Just okay.
And again...I've always liked their content. I have nothing bad to say about any of their pay sites. Of course, Fabian had nothing to do with any of the ideas or execution that went behind any of those sites.
How much day to day he does now is unknown to me and I don't really care.
Respect is earned from me. Fabian has my respect for writing NATS version 1 and any other early versions he wrote years ago.
He has my respect for having the charm and ability to end up as "the man" in front of Manwin (that too takes some talent believe it or not...not just anybody could have pulled off this stunt)
He lost my respect when he started swaggering about around here and pretending that he is an expert in porn. He may THINK he earned his stripes with the small resume he has, but to me and a lot of other guys who have worked at a certain level for 15 years while he spent most of that time unsuccessfully trying to be somebody...he has not.
A little humility would go a long way with me. But I guess if I were in Fabian's current position I wouldn't worry what a washed up affiliate like me thinks. Hell, I don't have enough traffic anymore to even be a speck on the landscape. Who gives a shit what I think?
Keep it up Fabian! Hopefully for you nothing goes wrong. But please stop talking down to people who actually know and do things in this biz. By the way...have you yet ever even been to a porn shoot? lol Don't bother answering. It's rhetorical.
I have the "porn tycoon" on "Ignore" but I saw him calling my name when he was quoted by gleem.
