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who's worried about programs going under and not getting paid.

07-01-2010, 01:45 PM

Its not looking good these days.

To much free porn and cross sales are dooming the porn biz online

I guess the only next thing to do is pay people to watch porn

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07-01-2010, 01:49 PM

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07-01-2010, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by RogerV

Its not looking good these days.

To much free porn and cross sales are dooming the porn biz online

I guess the only next thing to do is pay people to watch porn

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07-01-2010, 01:54 PM

Don't pay people to watch porn.
That's insane. Good luck.

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07-01-2010, 01:55 PM

The only negative impact cross-sales have is that there is less of them lately. They have no influence on ratios, just on payments. Congrats to all the idiots who want them to disappear.
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07-01-2010, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by andrej_NDC

The only negative impact cross-sales have is that there is less of them lately. They have no influence on ratios, just on payments. Congrats to all the idiots who want them to disappear.

Although for the programs that don't screw their surfers it is kinda nice.

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07-01-2010, 02:10 PM

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Don't pay people to watch porn.
That's insane. Good luck.

It's the next thing..

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07-02-2010, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by Yanks_Todd

Although for the programs that don't screw their surfers it is kinda nice.

Surfers don't care about that. If they did, they wouldn't sign up to all those "shady" paysites since the day 1. They are used to worse from mainstream and their regular bills.
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07-02-2010, 01:05 AM

Haha.. Too many people took the "Pay people to watch" to literary

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07-02-2010, 01:23 AM

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07-02-2010, 01:28 AM

I'm working on a new business model that actually does pay them to watch porn. They get paid for every video they watch and give a mini review on.

I inked deals with several of the top DVD studios in LA and I have 1000s of quality scenes I will be giving away for no payment, but will be paying the surfer instead.

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07-02-2010, 02:21 AM

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07-02-2010, 02:23 AM

Like any program will admit that they are broke.
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07-02-2010, 04:56 AM

Originally posted by RadicalSights

Like any program will admit that they are broke.

Quoted for the truth.

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07-02-2010, 05:06 AM

Originally posted by RadicalSights

Like any program will admit that they are broke.

Agreed.

But if the material is exclusively owned, most programs shouldnt go broke. The material can be sold as dvds & used on Pay per view sites, as long as the content is worthy!

The only way I could imagine a program going broke is if they are paying too much to affiliates per sale compared to the members retention fees.

Would it be that some of these programs that have gone under purchase content for online sites only?
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07-02-2010, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by crazytrini85

I'm working on a new business model that actually does pay them to watch porn. They get paid for every video they watch and give a mini review on.

I inked deals with several of the top DVD studios in LA and I have 1000s of quality scenes I will be giving away for no payment, but will be paying the surfer instead.

Adapt or die people.

1. Give away free porn.
2. ????
3. No profit?

So you're giving away scenes (and bandwidth) so how do you expect to profit?

I'm out.
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07-02-2010, 08:32 AM

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1. Give away free porn.
2. ????
3. No profit?

So you're giving away scenes (and bandwidth) so how do you expect to profit?

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07-02-2010, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by RogerV

Its not looking good these days.

To much free porn and cross sales are dooming the porn biz online

I guess the only next thing to do is pay people to watch porn

So when people warned us against supporting programs that were cross selling, we should have stayed away?

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07-02-2010, 08:52 AM

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07-02-2010, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by mafia_man

1. Give away free porn.
2. ????
3. No profit?

So you're giving away scenes (and bandwidth) so how do you expect to profit?

???? = sell that free porn traffic, mayor tubes are dont make profits?

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07-02-2010, 09:06 AM

dont put all eggs in one basket. and watch for PPS to drop like a rock. the ones still pulling it off won't be doing it for much longer at the margins they are seeing now.

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07-02-2010, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by crazytrini85

I'm working on a new business model that actually does pay them to watch porn. They get paid for every video they watch and give a mini review on.

I inked deals with several of the top DVD studios in LA and I have 1000s of quality scenes I will be giving away for no payment, but will be paying the surfer instead.

Adapt or die people.

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07-02-2010, 12:21 PM

well that's a fact that needs to be considered.

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07-02-2010, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by andrej_NDC

Surfers don't care about that. If they did, they wouldn't sign up to all those "shady" paysites since the day 1. They are used to worse from mainstream and their regular bills.

of course they care, hahahaha. The reason they don't do anything is that the chargeback process isn't all that stealth and keeping the process secret from your significant other that probably doesn't know you are jerking off to ebony midget isn't worth the risk.

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07-02-2010, 02:15 PM

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07-02-2010, 02:22 PM

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Against the rules hoss.

You mean the rule that they brought in because of your posts? Pot calling the kettle black.

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07-02-2010, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by andrej_NDC

The only negative impact cross-sales have is that there is less of them lately. They have no influence on ratios, just on payments. Congrats to all the idiots who want them to disappear.

I don't have a big problem with cross-sales that are not pre-checked and are clearly identified....as long as I get credit for them if we are speaking of revshare. But I still find them to be a little scummy whenever I see them and I'm sure the average surfer does too. I can't see how it wouldn't have an effect on sales because of the psychological perception involved with looking like a used car salesman. Then again perhaps the damage has already been done there over the years?

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07-02-2010, 02:55 PM

Im not. I spread my traffic out over a lot of sponsors. Actually I almost spread it to thin. But if one or two sponsors go under without paying me it wont kill me.
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07-02-2010, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Barefootsies

Against the rules hoss.

I think Roger would get a pass. YOUR spamming ass on the other hand, would get a bitch slap, toots.
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07-02-2010, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by RogerV

It's the next thing..

PleasureBuilder has a Spillover matrix system so you see all your sales in your downline and it cant be shaved. plus everyone gets paid the surfer and the webmaster. the retention so far is amazing

AMAZING!!!! if it was shit (which it probably is) would you really tell people? You would say it was AMAZING!! no matter what.

So you going to pop back up every couple months and spam your MLM porn site?

Funny mixing porn and MLM together, take two things that turn off people and combine them, brillant! Porn people (everyone really) is turned off by MLM, so you not going to get any people already in porn to do it. And then Mainstream people who might be ok with MLMs (not many) probably have an issue being involved with porn... I can't imagine a harder thing to try to sell. I am sure you will say things are going great but I know you lieing through your teeth.

Originally posted by RadicalSights

Like any program will admit that they are broke.

No they just stop paying out affiliates then eventually go out of business and keep as much money as they can. But until t hen they keep telling everyone that everything is GREAT!!!

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07-02-2010, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by RogerV

plus everyone gets paid the surfer and the webmaster. the retention so far is amazing

The surfer and the webmaster gets paid. Do you know how stupid that sounds. Even a 5 year old kid can see the bullshit in that. Where the hell does the money come from then?? Santa Claus or the Easter bunny? So everyone gets paid, who is doing the paying??? stupid bullshit...

No matter what scheme you come up, especially MLM's there is always "X" amount of money needed to be funneled into the shit that gets spread out over the people involved.

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07-02-2010, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls

Im not. I spread my traffic out over a lot of sponsors. Actually I almost spread it to thin. But if one or two sponsors go under without paying me it wont kill me.

Yeah I'm in the same boat, CCBill affiliates have been getting a lot more love from me lately as well.

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