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  • CHMOD
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    • Jun 2003
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    #1

    Moral issue here... What do you think ?

    A photographer posted a pic from a model here, on GFY.

    I sent him an Email and asked for a shooting. She is the kind of model I need.
    One condition : I pay only after I get the content. Too many people got away with the deposit and no content at the end.


    Now, I get the content and I realize that the model is 50 pounds heavier than it seems on the pic I saw. !!!

    She is really fat : Unusable for me.

    I usually ask for many pictures before I give an ok for a shooting. This time I didn't. It didn't even cross my mind that the picture posted woudn't correspond to the real model.

    What would you do in my place ?

    Who's responsability is this ?
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  • zabijaq
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    • Jun 2006
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    #2
    FAT is responsible

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    • ErectMedia
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      #3
      I think it's deceptive as I think pictures should represent current model status. Would need to see picture presented versus what you got to be solid on my opinion as a few pounds would be okay but if an absolute cheeseburger whore now I would probably have an issue.

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      • Jarmusch
         
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        #4
        You may have great BBW content on your hands

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        • seeandsee
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          #5
          Originally posted by CHMOD
          A photographer posted a pic from a model here, on GFY.

          I sent him an Email and asked for a shooting. She is the kind of model I need.
          One condition : I pay only after I get the content. Too many people got away with the deposit and no content at the end.


          Now, I get the content and I realize that the model is 50 pounds heavier than it seems on the pic I saw. !!!

          She is really fat : Unusable for me.

          I usually ask for many pictures before I give an ok for a shooting. This time I didn't. It didn't even cross my mind that the picture posted woudn't correspond to the real model.

          What would you do in my place ?

          Who's responsability is this ?
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          • VikingMan
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            #6
            pics or this thread is useless

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            • CaptainHowdy
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              #7
              Originally posted by lumenus
              pics or this thread is useless
              ...

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              • CurrentlySober
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                #8
                Its the models fault for eating too much food


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                • CHMOD
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by seeandsee
                  did you ask for info? not? pay the man

                  What do you think about showing a pic on wich the model looks 50 pounds lighter.

                  Isn't it a bit like false publicity ?

                  Why not showing the model exactly how she is...
                  It may have interrested BBW webmasters... But not me !
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                  • Caligari
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                    #10
                    did you send that pic to the guy and ask what happened to the girl, why she is 50 lbs lighter in the original photo, and that this is what you were looking for?
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                    • Raf1
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                      #11
                      ask the guy why he took photos of the girl, knowing she's put on that much weight. He should have asked you about this first.
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                      • Barefootsies
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jarmusch
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                        • Davy
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                          #13
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                          • Kenny B!
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                            #14
                            Most reputable shooters stand behind their work and will either not charge you or offer you a discount or free shoot of a different girl. He should be doing this for you.
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                            • selena
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Davy
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                              • ShellyCrash
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                                #16
                                50 lbs is alot of weight.

                                As others have said, need to see the pics to see how egregious the situation really is.

                                If she's cute you can probably turn it over as bbw or big tit content, looks like you're already getting offers.

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                                • kowalsky
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                                  #17
                                  You must pay. All you can do is to ask for a discount...
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                                  • will76
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CHMOD
                                    A photographer posted a pic from a model here, on GFY.

                                    I sent him an Email and asked for a shooting. She is the kind of model I need.
                                    One condition : I pay only after I get the content. Too many people got away with the deposit and no content at the end.


                                    Now, I get the content and I realize that the model is 50 pounds heavier than it seems on the pic I saw. !!!

                                    She is really fat : Unusable for me.

                                    I usually ask for many pictures before I give an ok for a shooting. This time I didn't. It didn't even cross my mind that the picture posted woudn't correspond to the real model.

                                    What would you do in my place ?

                                    Who's responsability is this ?
                                    you need to show the before picture and one that you received. Some people's opinion of "50 pounds" might be exaggerated and she might not look that different to everyone else.
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                                    • grumpy
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                                      #19
                                      no pics no opinion
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                                      • Adraco
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                                        #20
                                        Well, it's deceptive to market a model with pictures which are not current. Nonetheless, it's your responsibility to check things, ask questions and do some due dilligence. Not being happy afterwards is not reason enough to not pay. I would ask the photog if he thinks it's fair with a discount or a new shoot with another model. But not pay because you forgot to ask the necessary questions, as much as one would want business to be fun, friendly and fair, it's not and this is why you have to ask questions first.

                                        Try to negotiate a deal, but to not pay, that would be even more unethical than what the photog did. A discount from the photog would be fair though.
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                                        • CHMOD
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                                          #21
                                          Just a head up.

                                          First, thank you all for your replies !

                                          The photographer told me he was self surprised how fat she was when she came in.
                                          Looks like he dealed with an agent.

                                          He offered me a discount.

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                                          • Grapesoda
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by CHMOD
                                            A photographer posted a pic from a model here, on GFY.

                                            I sent him an Email and asked for a shooting. She is the kind of model I need.
                                            One condition : I pay only after I get the content. Too many people got away with the deposit and no content at the end.


                                            Now, I get the content and I realize that the model is 50 pounds heavier than it seems on the pic I saw. !!!

                                            She is really fat : Unusable for me.

                                            I usually ask for many pictures before I give an ok for a shooting. This time I didn't. It didn't even cross my mind that the picture posted woudn't correspond to the real model.

                                            What would you do in my place ?

                                            Who's responsability is this ?
                                            gotta pay this time, use a reliable content provider next time $.02

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                                            • La_Sexorcist
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                                              #23
                                              That sucks and is extremely deceptive for the one selling the model's content. Can't be good for business in the long run once word gets around, methinks.

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                                              • fatfoo
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                                                #24
                                                I think you need to discuss specific terms of the photo product you want, before you get the product. You said you didn't ask for sample pictures before the photo taking - I think you are the one who needs to see a sample.
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                                                • Vexes

                                                  #25
                                                  Simple. It was a fraudulent misrepresentation of the models appearance.

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                                                  • bnb
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                                                    • Aug 2004
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                                                    #26
                                                    What a lot of guys do with that situation is send the content back. Its the photogs responsibility to provide the client with quality content. If they over look the fact that she is now a fat cow. then its his bad and shouldnt be paid. Its happened to me and I learned that lesson the hard way.
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                                                    • BigDeanEvans
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by CHMOD
                                                      What do you think about showing a pic on wich the model looks 50 pounds lighter.

                                                      Isn't it a bit like false publicity ?

                                                      Why not showing the model exactly how she is...
                                                      It may have interrested BBW webmasters... But not me !
                                                      Yeah, the photographer should have said something about the weight. Post comparison pics to see if you're over exaggerating ...50 lbs is a lot of fucking weight especially for a female

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                                                      • Dvae
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                                                        #28
                                                        How good are you with Photoshop?
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                                                        • CYF
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Dvae
                                                          How good are you with Photoshop?
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                                                          • Domain Broker
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                                                            #30
                                                            Photoshop the pounds right off.

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                                                            • ShellyCrash
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BigDeanEvans
                                                              Yeah, the photographer should have said something about the weight. Post comparison pics to see if you're over exaggerating ...50 lbs is a lot of fucking weight especially for a female
                                                              Ditto to this.


                                                              Dissapointed days have passed and po pics have been posted.

                                                              The court of GFY needs to see the evidence to pass judgement

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                                                              • LoveSandra
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by lumenus
                                                                pics or this thread is useless

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                                                                • BigDeanEvans
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Any pics? What was the outcome?

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                                                                  • ShellyCrash
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                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • Naughty
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Same happened to me ... on a date few weeks back ;-) Inetdating sucks, they all lie;-)
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                                                                      • ottopottomouse
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Naughty
                                                                        Same happened to me ... on a date few weeks back ;-) Inetdating sucks, they all lie;-)
                                                                        I'd sort of expect that with internet dating though.

                                                                        Expanding models are a different story. Bit of false advertising to be showing pics as one weight and then doing a photoshoot at a noticeably larger size. Stupid thing is that she could probably be doing BBW work instead if she posted a current portfolio example with the interest shown in buying your rejected pics.
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                                                                        • NaughtyRob
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Yes.

                                                                          Originally posted by Kenny B!
                                                                          Most reputable shooters stand behind their work and will either not charge you or offer you a discount or free shoot of a different girl. He should be doing this for you.
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            lets see the pics already..
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                                                                            • PornMD
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Jesus, would it fucking kill you to post comparison pics already? You've been asked by like 893274948782487 people in this thread to do that, just do it!
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                                                                              • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Can you show us before and after. The picture you saw here and the ones you received?
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                                                                                • Jon Oso
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I wouldn't have shot the girl in the first place if I was using an agent and she showed up looking like that.

                                                                                  Horrible situation.
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                                                                                  • Loch
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Well it IS a dilemma for sure.
                                                                                    Personally i would pay the producer if it was just one solo set and make him/her aware of the screw-up and then never use him/her again.

                                                                                    On the flip side you should have double checked, however the only reason for that is that most producers in todays market are utterly useless and dont have the slightest grasp of how to run a business.

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                                                                                    • brentbacardi
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Have plenty of models show me pics when they were like 25 and are now like 35 and send them to me and say, do you shoot milfs? I ask if its a recent picture and they say yes when its not at all.

                                                                                      IDK why people do this. Do they really think I won't notice they look totally different?

                                                                                      I always meet girls before hand unless I know they worked for another company that I know only shoots hotties and it was recent.

                                                                                      But at least I can just send them home, or not call them back. You don't really get that option unless you want to be known as the guy who stiffs on payments.

                                                                                      I would just tell him you are displeased and see what he says.

                                                                                      AND DEFINITELY POST PICS PLEASE!!!
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                                                                                      • CHMOD
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Ok ! Here ya go...


                                                                                        Here is what I thougt I was paying for :





                                                                                        Here is what I got :




                                                                                        He offered me a 100$ discount... Stating that it is his
                                                                                        cost price and at that price, he makes no money on the shoot.

                                                                                        Seriously, I don't want him to loose money.. But damn !
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                                                                                        • ottopottomouse
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Fuck. She's been busy shoving stuff in her gob.
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                                                                                          • brentbacardi
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            hmmm yeah, well I guess you know how much he paid her when you take the original total and subtract his profit.... I hope its not much lol

                                                                                            If it seems legit on the amount he gave you a discount then at least hes trying to be ok about it. But idk man, double check on stuff dude, this is tough but damn LOL (pics) Lesson learned.
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                                                                                            • Cyber Fucker
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Dvae
                                                                                              How good are you with Photoshop?

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                                                                                              • Jon Oso
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Oh wow that is a pretty significant difference.

                                                                                                I would probably not accept that content if I was buying as that is WAY different. She looks thick but cute in the first pic, she looks like a total mess in the second.
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                                                                                                • Shap
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by CHMOD
                                                                                                  Ok ! Here ya go...


                                                                                                  Here is what I thougt I was paying for :





                                                                                                  Here is what I got :




                                                                                                  He offered me a 100$ discount... Stating that it is his
                                                                                                  cost price and at that price, he makes no money on the shoot.

                                                                                                  Seriously, I don't want him to loose money.. But damn !
                                                                                                  FUCK that don't pay him.

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                                                                                                  • Cyber Fucker
                                                                                                    Hmm
                                                                                                    • Sep 2005
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by CHMOD
                                                                                                    Ok ! Here ya go...


                                                                                                    Here is what I thougt I was paying for :





                                                                                                    Here is what I got :




                                                                                                    He offered me a 100$ discount... Stating that it is his
                                                                                                    cost price and at that price, he makes no money on the shoot.

                                                                                                    Seriously, I don't want him to loose money.. But damn !
                                                                                                    Oh my... now I see your point clearly.... the difference is BIG!!! She really looks good at the first pic

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