Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

I've been in this biz as long as anyone. It's totally stunning to me that in this industry of relationships, which produces little more than fake, insincere ass kissers and con artists... that so few would appreciate how incredibly wrong it is to try to promote your company name/company to webmasters through the use of something as awful as whats happened.

Even further, i shouldn't be surprised at the idiotic analogies to charities operated by Google, or championed by George Clooney or Bono or anyone else that adopts a cause and uses their name to promote it and everyone's inability to understand that they aren't saying "send money - sponsored by George Clooney" - which any idiot could understand is horribly inappropriate. George Clooney isn't trying to help stop genocide, rape and starvation in Darfur by launching efforts that say "sponsored by George Clooney" and EVERY single piece of literature or plastered on the wall behind him at every speaking engagement. This is not some random "cause" that people devote their life and personal money/time to promoting as a life long cause.

They certainly aren't stupid enough to go further and defend that behavior by saying "i'm using the George Clooney name because over the years, we've produced some great movies like Gladiator and Peacekeeper and its a name you know you can trust" - as if that makes any sense at all or has any bearing on helping those in need.

If there was any time in your life when you should exhibit some degree of integrity, compassion and selflessness, as a company... its now. But of course, pornographers can't wait to reinforce every negative stereotype there is about them. That's always been true of this business. A symptom of the worlds largest collection of dysfunctional people outside of NASCAR and WWF fan clubs. I'm sure Vivid has already got their eyes on a few earthquake victims to "offer contracts to" and the press releases are already written. Why break from what works?

Not sure why you think it matters that you put your banners everywhere in your networks... therefore, it make sense that you try to send money to Haiti by saying "sponsored by Cybererotica" - Of course, if it was Coca Cola... saying EVERYWHER "sponsored by Coca Cola" everyone would be going bat shit because they don't have a relationship with them that might be useful or is useful.

And Andy.. why isn't this thread blowing up with support because of your "known brand, known company and long history that people can trust"?

Because in a business where everyone is afraid of standing on principle, having a strong opinion and in constant fear of risking any sort of damage to any relationship that might send them 20 pre-checked cross sales a day... privately, behind the scenes, they are saying "oh my fucking god... I can't believe someone would do that"

And... are you promoting the companies that DO donate or work with you and give them props on your PR site to promote CE?? Of course not. Why do that when absolutely everything you've done says "sponsored by CE Cash" on it? That would defeat the purpose right? Is it about everyone who contributes? Of course not.

You will just publicly claim you have great support from people that matter and all secretly of course... They aren't asking for recognition. No one is creating a list of running totals. No one is creating threads "thank you XYZ for donating 10,000.00"... i guess they don't see the marketing value of 100,000 dead people in the same way you do.