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Old 03-10-2007, 08:02 PM  
Missie
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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR View Post
There is some serious shit going down on the net that is a most likely effecting all of us. I know I've been hit pretty hard...

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I don't remember the last time I visited GFY, and I come back to another one of these threads.

Unfortunately, there is nothing new to this. Either it is just starting to come out in the open in the adult world, or people are now finally paying more attention to what it really means for them. On the other hand, for many, this is really news.

It is nearly impossible for affiliates to go down the legal channel with adware/spyware companies and win. Most, if not all, of these programs do not rewrite the affiliate code themselves. There's no grounds from an affiliate standpoint. Sponsors would have a much better chance of winning.

What affiliates can do is sue the SPONSORS for breach of agreement. If a signup comes from YOUR link YOU are entitled to the commission. If the sponsor is aware of an adware problem within their own program, they have been provided with proof of codes being overwritten and they do nothing about it... hit them where it hurts most and like someone else said, make an example out of them.

For sponsors just saying that you don't allow this type of advertising or affiliates who promote malware downloads on their sites simply isn't enough. Put it in clear and simple terms in your TOS and what the consequences are and STICK TO YOUR OWN WORDS.

If you're afraid of terminating a "super adware affiliate", don't be. It's because you don't understand how it works. An affiliate that gives you 100 signups per day via adware/spyware isn't adding any new sales to your program. Some of these signups could have been from your own SE listings or advertising that shouldn't have been commissionable in the first place. Chances are that you would have had these 100 sales anyway and you would have had to pay LESS in commissions. Now take into consideration all the surfers who got annoyed with all the extra popups or illegal downloads and just closed your site and you just lost even more money.

As long as the money keeps flowing in for adware/spyware companies, they're not going to stop. What you'll see is even more of them popping up. Many have changed their names several times, changed the name of their adware programs, etc., but they didn't go away.

I have links to adware removal tools on all my adult and mainstream sites. Yes many of them delete cookies. But I'd much rather lose a sale to a sponsor because my surfer removed malware from his computers along with all cookies than lose a sale to someone who used adware to steal from me! Next time that surfer visits your site, he might be scum free and you'll get the next sale. But if you do nothing and let him infect and reinfect himself time and time again, you'll probably never see a dime from him.

All those of you who help spreading these apps on surfers' computers by getting a few cents per installs you all deserve to be shot! And all those of you who pay these companies to advertise and steal sales from others you all deserve to be shot too.

This isn't competition, it's called THEFT!

Missie
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