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  • BusterBunny
    perverted justice decoy
    • Aug 2005
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    #51
    fiddy zangoriffic replies
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    • OzMan
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      • Sep 2003
      • 9162

      #52
      Originally posted by SleazyDream
      also did anyone NOTICE that tampatoker has a ZANGO REP?


      means he DEALS with zango
      scroll up..he signed up with Zango to see how it works from the buyer's side not to make money with it. Same reason I installed Zango, not because I was bored and needed popups to click.

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      • will76
        Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
        • May 2003
        • 18037

        #53
        Originally posted by SleazyDream
        I'd totally agree with AFF blocking their keywords on zango so long as they arn't buying it themself - that would prevent a free market. I could not see them doing that.
        According to the Zango rep that is what they are doing unless you think tampatoker is lieing. Will be curious to see what comes of that 3way call.
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        • will76
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          • May 2003
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          #54
          Originally posted by SleazyDream
          also did anyone NOTICE that tampatoker has a ZANGO REP?


          means he DEALS with zango
          no shit dumb ass. You a little slow tonight eh?

          He said he got the information from his zango rep you just catching on now. Therefore I would have to think it was factual. If he is trying to spend money on their site to send to AFF and they tell him that he can't do you t hink they would turn down business unless they were 100% sure he couldn't do that.
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          • emthree
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            • Jun 2003
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            #55
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            • Brujah
              Beer Money Baron
              • Jan 2001
              • 22157

              #56
              If I'm not mistaken, the law does not allow you to selectively enforce your trademark.

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              • TheSwed
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                • Feb 2004
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                #57
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                • will76
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                  • May 2003
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                  #58
                  Waiting to see how that phone call went. Sagi ? Did you have the 3way call yet with tampaguy and Zango ?
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                  • Fuckin Bill
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                    • Feb 2003
                    • 1020

                    #59
                    Originally posted by pornopete
                    This isn't true. Aff affiliates can buy zango traffic apparently and aff affiliate was buying a keyword that hijacked sleazy's tgp : http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=678434&page=2
                    It might not be the same thing. Some discussions were about keywords and others were about bidding directly on domain names. (I think)

                    Has there been any news on that conference call yet?

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                    • TampaToker
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2006
                      • 5828

                      #60
                      Originally posted by pornopete
                      This isn't true. Aff affiliates can buy zango traffic apparently and aff affiliate was buying a keyword that hijacked sleazy's tgp : http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=678434&page=2
                      I tried this all ready and still no luck. So i dont know what the hell is going on.
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                      • TampaToker
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                        • May 2006
                        • 5828

                        #61
                        Originally posted by Fuckin Bill
                        It might not be the same thing. Some discussions were about keywords and others were about bidding directly on domain names. (I think)

                        Has there been any news on that conference call yet?
                        Hey could you repost that htacess file of yours it works great. I deleted it and now i cant find it. About the conference no there was none yet. I was asked who my rep was on ice and i told the person who asked. So we will wait and see.
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                        • TampaToker
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                          • May 2006
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                          #62
                          Originally posted by pornopete
                          What exactly did you try?
                          First off i tried a splash page on my website for AFF pushing sexsearch.com and some keywords . They were disapproved. Then i tried my aff link going to sleazydream.com sexsearch.com and some keywords and they were disapproved. Now even the keywords were getting disapproved with this setup. Even thu others were bidding on same keywords and i made myself the highest bid.
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                          • borked
                            Totally Borked
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 6284

                            #63
                            Originally posted by SleazyDream
                            I'd totally agree with AFF blocking their keywords on zango so long as they arn't buying it themself - that would prevent a free market. I could not see them doing that.

                            AFF makig a deal with zango to block their keywords would be EXACLY what everyone on here is asking for!

                            so maybe wait a day or too and see what happens. I have faith is AFF doing the right thing here.

                            I say wait a day or two simply cause it may take that long for zango up to update all their systems.

                            don't be so quick to judge - do it based on FACTS

                            Just think and read before you speak -
                            We don't yet know the FACTS whether AFF is blocking others bidding on their names. You seem to think that they are, or at least hope they are.

                            Yet if that is in any way remotely true, then what gives with AFF bidding on all the other names they hold no TM on? Didn't they even have high bid on your domain

                            This is all smelling like a whorehole at 5am on a Sunday morning if you ask me.



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                            • jayeff
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                              • May 2001
                              • 2944

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Brujah
                              If I'm not mistaken, the law does not allow you to selectively enforce your trademark.
                              You can choose whether to defend a trademark or not. The courts will rarely find in your favor if a defendant can demonstrate that on multiple or significant occasions you failed to defend it.

                              In other words, you have to defend it all the time or you may as well not bother at all...

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                              • borked
                                Totally Borked
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 6284

                                #65
                                Originally posted by SleazyDream
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                                • QuaWee
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                                  #66
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                                  • will76
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                                    • May 2003
                                    • 18037

                                    #67
                                    Bump for that 3way call to get to the bottom of this. Has Sagi agreed to making this call ?
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                                    • Tryme
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                                      • Jul 2003
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                                      #68
                                      so whats the deal?

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                                      • Phil
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                                        • Jan 2004
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                                        #69
                                        from what I hear lars has no say in AFF biz. He's just a PR person.
                                        Ask Phil

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                                        • Evil1
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                                          • Mar 2002
                                          • 3893

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by CAMOKAT
                                          from what I hear lars has no say in AFF biz. He's just a PR person.
                                          Thats gotta be BS, how bad do you have to suck at a job to get fired?

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                                          • will76
                                            Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                            • May 2003
                                            • 18037

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by CAMOKAT
                                            from what I hear lars has no say in AFF biz. He's just a PR person.
                                            ok then maybe he can speak up for the cams.com zango ads ???
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                                            • tiger
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                                              • Apr 2002
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                                              #72
                                              The only question I have is why? Why is AFF doing this? Right or wrong, ethical or not? Lars said himself the amount of money made and spent on Zango is extremely small. So why would you risk screwing with your affiliates in order to make such a "small" amount of money.

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                                              • Fuckin Bill
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                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 1020

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by TampaToker
                                                Hey could you repost that htacess file of yours it works great. I deleted it and now i cant find it. About the conference no there was none yet. I was asked who my rep was on ice and i told the person who asked. So we will wait and see.
                                                Right here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=678826

                                                Keep us updated

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                                                • Evil1
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                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 3893

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by tiger
                                                  The only question I have is why? Why is AFF doing this? Right or wrong, ethical or not? Lars said himself the amount of money made and spent on Zango is extremely small. So why would you risk screwing with your affiliates in order to make such a "small" amount of money.
                                                  Could he be lying? Hmmmm

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                                                  • TheSwed
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                                                    • Feb 2004
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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by CAMOKAT
                                                    from what I hear lars has no say in AFF biz. He's just a PR person.
                                                    "Exactly how profitable is a mystery. No one doubts the company is profitable, and Conru says the company has been making money since 1996, mostly through Adultfriendfinder.com and Alt.com. As for his wealth, Conru, who owns 90 percent of Various, says only that he is worth more than $100 million. (The other 10 percent of Various is owned by Lars Mapstead, whose start-up, Cams.com, was acquired by the company last year.)"

                                                    http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/15899851.htm


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                                                    • will76
                                                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                      • May 2003
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                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by TheSwed
                                                      "Exactly how profitable is a mystery. No one doubts the company is profitable, and Conru says the company has been making money since 1996, mostly through Adultfriendfinder.com and Alt.com. As for his wealth, Conru, who owns 90 percent of Various, says only that he is worth more than $100 million. (The other 10 percent of Various is owned by Lars Mapstead, whose start-up, Cams.com, was acquired by the company last year.)"

                                                      http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/15899851.htm

                                                      All Lars got was 10% ?? I thought he would have gotten more then that, but who knows the details.

                                                      I read something where Conru said Various inc. generates well over 100 million a year.

                                                      Since Conru is the main guy I would love to hear him weigh in on this issue.
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                                                      • TheSwed
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                                                        • Feb 2004
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                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by will76
                                                        Since Conru is the main guy I would love to hear him weigh in on this issue.
                                                        I think he have bigger issue to deal with then Zango

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                                                        • Philip G
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                                                          #78
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                                                          • Manowar
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                                                            • Dec 2003
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                                                            #79
                                                            Something tells me this thread will run for a while

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                                                            • DaddyHalbucks
                                                              A freakin' legend!
                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                              • 18975

                                                              #80
                                                              The way around some of this mess is to have a strong, famous, distinctive, registered trademark.

                                                              Have a policy that neither your competitors nor your affiliates can bid on any terms containing your trademark.

                                                              Be prepared to sue like a mofo to protect your intellectual property.

                                                              Playboy might be a good example of a company that puts up with no non-sense regarding its TMs.
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                                                              • SleazyDream
                                                                I'm here for SPORT
                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 41470

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by will76
                                                                no shit dumb ass. You a little slow tonight eh?

                                                                He said he got the information from his zango rep you just catching on now. Therefore I would have to think it was factual. If he is trying to spend money on their site to send to AFF and they tell him that he can't do you t hink they would turn down business unless they were 100% sure he couldn't do that.
                                                                so anything a troll does is factual and you dont' believe anything AFF does when they are the only company I know of with enough GUTS no to lie about using zango - soo many others do but you don't hear them admitting to it?

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                                                                • jayeff
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                                                                  • May 2001
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                  they are the only company I know of with enough GUTS no to lie about using zango
                                                                  What guts does it take to admit something when screenshots have been plastered all over the board? Lars hasn't been any more vocal on other boards than the other guilty sponsors who have been silent here. But this is where Lars does most of his affiliate "marketing", so what choice did he have?

                                                                  As it was, his "admission" was almost insulting and since then he has called everyone sheep for being concerned. Then he tried to make it seem as if this issue was nothing more than a personal drama between him and Will76. Finally, this week we haven't seen much of him or his sidekick...

                                                                  You may feel the need to rationalize your continued support of AFF, but if you plan on convincing anyone there is more to it than that, you need to come up with some less transparent reasoning.

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                                                                  • RawAlex
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                    • 9465

                                                                    #83
                                                                    It doesn't take guts to not lie about using zango, but it does take amazing gall and a total lack of respect for your affiliates to even go there to start with.

                                                                    The fake profile lawsuit will potentially take them down, especially if the FTC gets involved.

                                                                    Congrats to the winners ahead of time.

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                                                                    • will76
                                                                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                      • May 2003
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                      so anything a troll does is factual and you dont' believe anything AFF does when they are the only company I know of with enough GUTS no to lie about using zango - soo many others do but you don't hear them admitting to it?

                                                                      idiot
                                                                      You are one the biggest fools on here, regardless if you are a bro or a troll.

                                                                      The issue was between tampatoker and zango. He said that is what they told him either he is lieing or zango told him that and they are lieing. I doubt zango would turn away business so I believe him. I also went and checked this information myself you moron. I went to aff,cams,alt, passion, etc.. about 10 times, each time i got a zango ad for one of their other sites. So I confirmed with my own eyes what he was saying.

                                                                      So a theif admits to stealing something = you suppose to trust them.

                                                                      AFF might have admitted to use Zango (only after Zango outed them) but they have made about 10 bullshit excuses WHY they use it since then. They were obviously lieing when they said they were working on a way to stop it.

                                                                      It's a wonder anyone does business with you since you are such a big fool. If it isn't your " everyone here is a nobody and i have my nice house and travel the world " comments or your " you are all trolls" insults, or just your overall stupid comments and blind backing of AFF, it is a wonder anyone works with you. It's not like TGP traffic is in short supply.
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                                                                      • TampaToker
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                        so anything a troll does is factual and you dont' believe anything AFF does when they are the only company I know of with enough GUTS no to lie about using zango - soo many others do but you don't hear them admitting to it?

                                                                        idiot
                                                                        A troll lol you a funny guy. Everything i posted i was told. I requested a confrence call on the air with lars to debate the issue and requested that the webmaster listen in. I all so requested a three way call with my zango rep. Atleast saggi contacted me and asked me who i spoke with at zango. Thats all there has been since then.

                                                                        You know that last few weeks i been puting in alot of time in on this zango stuff. Working with company's and webmaster how to protect there programs and there afilliates. If people choose to belive me thats fine but if not hey no problem there either thats there biz . Now lets cut out all the bullshit. Anyone making any good money at all aint gonna switch from any sponsor doing any shady shit.


                                                                        And with the guts enough comment lol Zango outed them and in several ways. So dont act like they came out one day and said "hey guys we use Zango just to let you know. So tell me sleazy is it pissing you off that a bunch of nobody's are making this much noise. Im not just talkin about aff/cams.com stuff either. I am refering the whole ad ware issues. I dont care who you are if you are wrong you are wrong and i will debate you on it. What pisses me off the most is this whole ad ware issue effects the little guys and i will fight for the little guy any damn day.
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                                                                        • monro
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Dec 2002
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          bump again

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                                                                          • cindyc
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                                                                            #87
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                                                                            • cindyc
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              zango sucks.. they need to stop that.
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                                                                              • TampaToker
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                This bump is for sleazy
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                                                                                • Nysus
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                                                                                  • Aug 2001
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                  also did anyone NOTICE that tampatoker has a ZANGO REP?


                                                                                  means he DEALS with zango
                                                                                  Really, are you that stupid? Do you know what gathering information means? How the fuck do private detectives do investigations? Fucking tell the person their investigating what they're doing? You look like a fucking moron in this case, sorry but I have to say it finally from all of your other ignorant posts trying to defend Zango.
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                                                                                  • Nysus
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                    so anything a troll does is factual and you dont' believe anything AFF does when they are the only company I know of with enough GUTS no to lie about using zango - soo many others do but you don't hear them admitting to it?

                                                                                    idiot
                                                                                    I missed this gem of yours. How the fuck would they lie about using Zango? Yes, I'm swearing, I'm tired and I can't sleep, grumpy and uncensored.
                                                                                    What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                                                                                    Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                                                                                    See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                                                                                    • BaldBishop
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Bump .

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