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  • Missie
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2006
    • 372

    #251
    Originally posted by will76
    and don't forget i have a small dick too.
    I sell pills that could help you! Just thought I'd put a different spin on here for now.

    Just gathering a list of good sponsors and going through pages and pages of posts to find them all. I have a bunch of links to remove and replace!

    Missie
    Looking for a clean sponsor that won't steal from you?check them out here!

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    • will76
      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
      • May 2003
      • 18037

      #252
      Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
      Will what are the chances you have some of your old cam videos kicking around... My icq chickenshit buddies are asking for it.

      I'd ICQ you but I know you won't respond.

      Pls help, I'll even sign up under clickcash for you so you can make your 10%

      What do you say?

      DH
      i never did save pictures of myself, can you think of a reason why i should have ? and since that was 1999 and a few pcs ago that is not something that i would have laying around nor something i would have made sure to print out and put next to the wedding pictures in the photo book.

      no thanks, i pick and choose who i work with. sorry but you don't pass the criteria.
      ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com

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      • Daruma
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2002
        • 3494

        #253
        Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
        This thread has not lost it's focus, he's bashing my company now I'm bashing his integrity as a business man.
        I disagree a bit but anyways - how about my question...

        honest question for DH:

        how much would it affect your bottom line over the last year to NOT accepted business with installs?

        5% ?
        10% ?
        20% ?

        RIP TD

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        • marketsmart
          HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
          • Dec 2004
          • 20419

          #254
          you guys need to work this out privately... there is no point in continuing on here... at least 50% support DH and well, i dotn know how many support Will...

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          • Tempest
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • May 2004
            • 10217

            #255
            Originally posted by TampaToker
            That screenshot is from metricsdirect backend were you can bid on URL'S and keywords. They sell the advertiseing for zango. Now here is a screen shot of me clicking a link from my site with my afilliate code to cams.com on a cpu that has the zango toolbar installed. about 5 seconds after cams.com load a popup widow appears with this add. Well guess what my fuckin cookie is gone now and this asswipe has my surfer now. Click the image a few times to make it bigger


            Would explain why I've had several people complain to me about their cams.com conversions lately.. but cams.com's response is the standard one... "nothing is wrong on our end and we have tons of affiliates making bank with us"... yeah.. the hijackers..

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            • Daruma
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2002
              • 3494

              #256
              Originally posted by marketsmart
              you guys need to work this out privately... there is no point in continuing on here... at least 50% support DH and well, i dotn know how many support Will...
              you sure about that 50% figure?
              DH's other thread got him very owned...

              oh btw - still waiting for that answer DH

              RIP TD

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              • will76
                Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                • May 2003
                • 18037

                #257
                Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                Will what are the chances you could let me start a paysite up for you, I'll get affiliates in the door and only ask 10% from you.

                Dude we can make bank, just like you did in the old days.

                DH

                i am actually seriously tossing around the idea of doing that, starting my own program. I have somethign in the works if it looks good and i have success with it on my own traffic i may open it up to invitation only. But i can tell you rule #1 i will not allow spyware. i will contact all of the spyware companies up front and advise them not to sell my keywords or anything related to stealing my affiliates traffic.
                ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com

                PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread)
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                • KrisKross
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 5025

                  #258
                  Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                  This thread has not lost it's focus, he's bashing my company now I'm bashing his integrity as a business man.

                  He is pulling up previous threads on me so I am doing the same to him.

                  There is nothing wrong with being content Will, I'm cool with it. You gotta start somewhere

                  DH
                  Why stoop to his level, Mark? He's already made himself look bad. You're only making yourself look bad too.

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                  • will76
                    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                    • May 2003
                    • 18037

                    #259
                    Originally posted by Daruma
                    you sure about that 50% figure?
                    DH's other thread got him very owned...

                    oh btw - still waiting for that answer DH

                    i caved and talked to him, i got to say it was at least civil. and no i am posting icq logs but if he wants to he is more then welcome, like i said i stand by what i say no matter if it is private public online, offline etc..


                    i think it is safe to assume he wont be calling me a basement tgp submitter anywmore...

                    now can we get this thread back on track.

                    Oh DH, you did your friends a favor tonight. You consumed all of the "spyware" time tonight. I will be focusing on companies one by one tomorrow.

                    I am not going to stop until people stop supporting installers like zango.

                    I know "program owners' may have laughed at the 1 or 2 guys who sent 3 sales a day, who have bitched to them about spyware, But when i am done i hope to have a couple hundred pissed off affiliates who make a couple sales a day ranting and raving to their sponsors about it. (plus some big ones too ;))
                    ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com

                    PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread)
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                    • will76
                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                      • May 2003
                      • 18037

                      #260
                      Originally posted by KrisKross
                      Why stoop to his level, Mark? He's already made himself look bad. You're only making yourself look bad too.

                      my level ?

                      DH insults: 140
                      Will76 insults: 6 ?

                      come on, what are you reading here. I even answered your last post very detailed and as nicely as possible and yet you dont even reply to me and refer to me as being on this, sub standard level
                      ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com

                      PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread)
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                      • will76
                        Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                        • May 2003
                        • 18037

                        #261
                        Originally posted by Missie
                        I sell pills that could help you! Just thought I'd put a different spin on here for now.

                        Just gathering a list of good sponsors and going through pages and pages of posts to find them all. I have a bunch of links to remove and replace!

                        Missie

                        hey i just caught that

                        you know what else works well besides pills...
                        ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com

                        PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread)
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                        • gould
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 1

                          #262
                          Originally posted by Missie
                          I would be SOOOOOOOOOO happy to lose that part of my income!!! It would show tenfold in other areas and more than make up for it. I wouldn't lose anything to scums like you who help spread crap all over the internet and those who steal from the rest of us.

                          Missie
                          Missie, maybe you should look a little further into what you are promoting....

                          XCleaner www xkee com/x-cleaner-download/
                          iSpyNow www xkee com/utility/ispynow/
                          SpyBuddy www xkee com/spybuddy-download/

                          While I wont argue that Zango is adware, iSpyNow and SpyBuddy are SPYWARE. In addition, with a little googling, you'll see that the majority of links to xclean and xblock affiliates are from Search Spammers and Comment spams. Add all of the XBlock versus Aluria mudslinging, and thats quite a mess going on there...

                          Also, Just because I feel like and jerk tonight, might I mention the XBlock Affiliate TOS ( www xblock com/affiliateterms.php )

                          Some great points here...
                          XBlock affiliates cannot
                          *Promote sexually explicit, pornographic or obscene content (whether in text or graphics)
                          *Promote speech or images that are offensive, profane, hateful, threatening, harmful, defamatory, libelous, harassing or discriminatory

                          Is harrasing posters on an Adult forum a violation of Xblocks TOS?

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                          • Missie
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 372

                            #263
                            Yes you can promote this on a porn site. I can't believe that is still there. I will have to write them again. Several months ago I wrote them about this and this is what they replied:

                            "Note that we are not opposed to adult websites. In fact, we think protecting the privacy issues of users in this market would be a good target for our top-notch anti-spyware software. "

                            Actually the man behind XBlock is Wayne Porter, he used to be the CEO of the company before FaceTime bought it last year or two years ago. Get an idea of what Wayne is all about at http://www.revenews.com . They also own http://www.spywareguide.com .

                            I learned an awful lot about detecting and removing spyware from Wayne and his tech team. I "met" him about 3 years ago and they were by far the best people to help their customers. Hell, I wasn't even a customer back then and they still helped me!!

                            You are free to have your own opinion and do what you want, I will surf the net spyware free.

                            Missie
                            Looking for a clean sponsor that won't steal from you?check them out here!

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                            • Pointless
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2142

                              #264
                              Originally posted by gould
                              Missie, maybe you should look a little further into what you are promoting....

                              XCleaner www xkee com/x-cleaner-download/
                              iSpyNow www xkee com/utility/ispynow/
                              SpyBuddy www xkee com/spybuddy-download/

                              While I wont argue that Zango is adware, iSpyNow and SpyBuddy are SPYWARE. In addition, with a little googling, you'll see that the majority of links to xclean and xblock affiliates are from Search Spammers and Comment spams. Add all of the XBlock versus Aluria mudslinging, and thats quite a mess going on there...

                              Also, Just because I feel like and jerk tonight, might I mention the XBlock Affiliate TOS ( www xblock com/affiliateterms.php )

                              Some great points here...
                              XBlock affiliates cannot
                              *Promote sexually explicit, pornographic or obscene content (whether in text or graphics)
                              *Promote speech or images that are offensive, profane, hateful, threatening, harmful, defamatory, libelous, harassing or discriminatory

                              Is harrasing posters on an Adult forum a violation of Xblocks TOS?
                              fake nic much
                              355 north
                              Adultdatelink.com

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                              • QuaWee
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 5791

                                #265
                                Originally posted by KrisKross
                                Why stoop to his level, Mark? He's already made himself look bad. You're only making yourself look bad too.
                                when was this?
                                i luv mainstream

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                                • will76
                                  Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 18037

                                  #266
                                  Originally posted by QuaWee
                                  when was this?

                                  You got to forgive KrissKoss (she? i believe) is a little biased, she is friends with the epiccash crew so naturally, you know how it goes.
                                  ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com

                                  PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread)
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                                  • KrisKross
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2006
                                    • 5025

                                    #267
                                    Originally posted by will76
                                    You got to forgive KrissKoss (she? i believe) is a little biased, she is friends with the epiccash crew so naturally, you know how it goes.
                                    That's irrelevant. And check your ICQ.

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                                    • Worldsex
                                      Formerly Known as OkiDoki
                                      • Jan 2006
                                      • 331

                                      #268
                                      Dh,
                                      I don't think you can put everything under the 'it is legal, so I don't have a problem with it' umbrella. Sometimes the laws hasn't adjusted to the new situations yet.

                                      Molesting a horse is legal in Holland, because the laws haven't been adjusted yet.....so if you could make money with it, would you do it? and what if it was big money?
                                      You can always make money on something, and if there is enough money to be made, why focus then on something which is obviously so bad for our (and any other) industry. Because others are doing it otherwise? a lame excuse if you ask me.

                                      Why don't you just say: Guys, you're right. I will stop with any form of install, I will focus on selling my traffic to others instead of their questionable stuff and probably make the same amount of money with most likely a bit more work..but fuck it! I make enough already.

                                      But well, for some reason I don't see that happening, I would love to, but well.......one can dream right?!

                                      I still love you Mark and I have a lot of respect for you what you have accomplished in just a few years, I just don't agree with you on this one as you know ;) And this post doesn't only apply to you, but also to many others.
                                      Pierre
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                                      • 5pm
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2006
                                        • 282

                                        #269
                                        Originally posted by Worldsex
                                        Dh,
                                        Molesting a horse is legal in Holland, because the laws haven't been adjusted yet.....so if you could make money with it, would you do it? and what if it was big money?
                                        It depends.
                                        Are you a business man
                                        or an amateur LOL!
                                        baby Jesus never sleeps when you're being a sinner,
                                        yeah he'll eat you for dinner

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                                        • scottybuzz
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • May 2006
                                          • 14799

                                          #270
                                          Originally posted by gould
                                          Missie, maybe you should look a little further into what you are promoting....

                                          XCleaner www xkee com/x-cleaner-download/
                                          iSpyNow www xkee com/utility/ispynow/
                                          SpyBuddy www xkee com/spybuddy-download/

                                          While I wont argue that Zango is adware, iSpyNow and SpyBuddy are SPYWARE. In addition, with a little googling, you'll see that the majority of links to xclean and xblock affiliates are from Search Spammers and Comment spams. Add all of the XBlock versus Aluria mudslinging, and thats quite a mess going on there...

                                          Also, Just because I feel like and jerk tonight, might I mention the XBlock Affiliate TOS ( www xblock com/affiliateterms.php )

                                          Some great points here...
                                          XBlock affiliates cannot
                                          *Promote sexually explicit, pornographic or obscene content (whether in text or graphics)
                                          *Promote speech or images that are offensive, profane, hateful, threatening, harmful, defamatory, libelous, harassing or discriminatory

                                          Is harrasing posters on an Adult forum a violation of Xblocks TOS?
                                          get bent
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                                          • jimthefiend
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Oct 2003
                                            • 18889

                                            #271
                                            Originally posted by will76
                                            i am actually seriously tossing around the idea of doing that, starting my own program. I have somethign in the works if it looks good and i have success with it on my own traffic i may open it up to invitation only. But i can tell you rule #1 i will not allow spyware. i will contact all of the spyware companies up front and advise them not to sell my keywords or anything related to stealing my affiliates traffic.


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                                            • BlackCrayon
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 19634

                                              #272
                                              Originally posted by Worldsex
                                              Dh,
                                              I don't think you can put everything under the 'it is legal, so I don't have a problem with it' umbrella. Sometimes the laws hasn't adjusted to the new situations yet.

                                              Molesting a horse is legal in Holland, because the laws haven't been adjusted yet.....so if you could make money with it, would you do it? and what if it was big money?
                                              You can always make money on something, and if there is enough money to be made, why focus then on something which is obviously so bad for our (and any other) industry. Because others are doing it otherwise? a lame excuse if you ask me.

                                              Why don't you just say: Guys, you're right. I will stop with any form of install, I will focus on selling my traffic to others instead of their questionable stuff and probably make the same amount of money with most likely a bit more work..but fuck it! I make enough already.

                                              But well, for some reason I don't see that happening, I would love to, but well.......one can dream right?!

                                              I still love you Mark and I have a lot of respect for you what you have accomplished in just a few years, I just don't agree with you on this one as you know ;) And this post doesn't only apply to you, but also to many others.
                                              Pierre
                                              i think DH has developed a bit of a 'god complex' or something over the years. success has gone to his head possibly. he sure does come off with a "i'm rich, you're not so your opinion means nothing" attitude in this thread.
                                              you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                              • Klen
                                                • Aug 2006
                                                • 32235

                                                #273
                                                Yazzle have installs also

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                                                • Klen
                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                  • 32235

                                                  #274
                                                  Yazzle have installs also

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                                                  • jayeff
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 2944

                                                    #275
                                                    Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                    at least 50% support DH...
                                                    It would be a sad comment on this industry if that were an accurate estimate. Ignoring what is under discussion, DH would have been hard pressed to handle himself less professionally in this thread if he had tried.

                                                    If you are going to get into a market, score a quick hit and then quit, you can afford to think in terms of anything legal being fair game. Otherwise many such things would come under the category of "sh*tting on your own doorstep".

                                                    That comment isn't intended as an appeal to the people who are damaging the industry. They know exactly what they are doing and don't care. But I fail to understand why those who are in business for the long-term tolerate, let alone support such individuals. It is your doorstep these people are crapping on, your future earnings which are paying for their get-rich-quick schemes, and you they are laughing at for helping them steal your money.

                                                    Because that is exactly what they are doing. None of these schemes, no matter which side of the law they fall, are generating business. Directly or indirectly, all they are doing is snatching business from those who operate in ways which won't ultimately create a backlash. No industry can afford to turn a blind eye to such tactics, least of all one which faces so many opponents who will use anything to restrict our activities.

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                                                    • Klen
                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                      • 32235

                                                      #276
                                                      Yazzle have installs also

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                                                      • StuartD
                                                        Sofa King Band
                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                        • 29903

                                                        #277
                                                        Alright, instead of "imagine if" and they do "it" and "all files are spyware" and blah blah blah... how about we see a file?

                                                        Anyone? Can someone show me a file? Just one file, from the p2pads network that has spyware in it. Can someone send it to me? I would love to test it on my machine... but I need the file first. Also, I'll need to know how you verified that it came from p2pads as well.

                                                        Once I have this file, and I can confirm that it is spyware (even if it's just shady and still legal), I myself will jump on the anti-DH bandwagon and shout the loudest. Until this is done however, I will have to accept this entire thread as nothing more than assumptions and personal attacks for no other reason than "imagine if."

                                                        Thank you.
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                                                        • 5pm
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Apr 2006
                                                          • 282

                                                          #278
                                                          Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                          Yazzle have installs also
                                                          Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                          Yazzle have installs also
                                                          Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                          Yazzle have installs also

                                                          We hear ya buddy .. it's okay :D
                                                          baby Jesus never sleeps when you're being a sinner,
                                                          yeah he'll eat you for dinner

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                                                          • jayeff
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • May 2001
                                                            • 2944

                                                            #279
                                                            Originally posted by StuartD
                                                            how about we see a file?
                                                            You are missing the point entirely... and I suspect you realize it. Getting into the specifics of legal/not legal and debating semantics is nothing more than a smokescreen.

                                                            You are trying to come up with reasons not to oppose something which can only be damaging to everyone except the person profiting directly from it. That's nonsense from a business point of view and makes your defense personality motivated, not as you claim, the attacks on this kind of practise.

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                                                            • Worldsex
                                                              Formerly Known as OkiDoki
                                                              • Jan 2006
                                                              • 331

                                                              #280
                                                              It would be a sad comment on this industry if that were an accurate estimate. Ignoring what is under discussion, DH would have been hard pressed to handle himself less professionally in this thread if he had tried.

                                                              If you are going to get into a market, score a quick hit and then quit, you can afford to think in terms of anything legal being fair game. Otherwise many such things would come under the category of "sh*tting on your own doorstep".

                                                              That comment isn't intended as an appeal to the people who are damaging the industry. They know exactly what they are doing and don't care. But I fail to understand why those who are in business for the long-term tolerate, let alone support such individuals. It is your doorstep these people are crapping on, your future earnings which are paying for their get-rich-quick schemes, and you they are laughing at for helping them steal your money.

                                                              Because that is exactly what they are doing. None of these schemes, no matter which side of the law they fall, are generating business. Directly or indirectly, all they are doing is snatching business from those who operate in ways which won't ultimately create a backlash. No industry can afford to turn a blind eye to such tactics, least of all one which faces so many opponents who will use anything to restrict our activities.
                                                              Exactly!
                                                              Last edited by Worldsex; 10-06-2006, 05:52 AM.
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                                                              • StuartD
                                                                Sofa King Band
                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                • 29903

                                                                #281
                                                                Originally posted by jayeff
                                                                You are missing the point entirely... and I suspect you realize it. Getting into the specifics of legal/not legal and debating semantics is nothing more than a smokescreen.

                                                                You are trying to come up with reasons not to oppose something which can only be damaging to everyone except the person profiting directly from it. That's nonsense from a business point of view and makes your defense personality motivated, not as you claim, the attacks on this kind of practise.
                                                                I'm not missing the point. He accused P2Pads of something... without proof. That's a bannable offense on GFY.
                                                                All I am offering is a chance for him or anyone to prove those statements.

                                                                You guys are the ones putting up the smokescreen of speaking in generalities... how you feel about installs that steal ref codes. That's all well and good. But P2Pads is the only company name in the title. So again, please provide a file to back up this accusation. If I install it and it replaces my ref codes... I will concede that you are all correct.
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                                                                • Missie
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Oct 2006
                                                                  • 372

                                                                  #282
                                                                  Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                  I'm not missing the point. He accused P2Pads of something... without proof. That's a bannable offense on GFY.
                                                                  All I am offering is a chance for him or anyone to prove those statements.

                                                                  You guys are the ones putting up the smokescreen of speaking in generalities... how you feel about installs that steal ref codes. That's all well and good. But P2Pads is the only company name in the title. So again, please provide a file to back up this accusation. If I install it and it replaces my ref codes... I will concede that you are all correct.
                                                                  This is the title of the thread:

                                                                  "P2PADS will sell traffic for installs. "

                                                                  Please show me where it says that p2pads installs something on its own site.

                                                                  Missie
                                                                  Looking for a clean sponsor that won't steal from you?check them out here!

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                                                                  • StuartD
                                                                    Sofa King Band
                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                    • 29903

                                                                    #283
                                                                    Originally posted by Missie
                                                                    Please show me where it says that p2pads installs something on its own site.
                                                                    Huh??
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                                                                    • austinth
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                      • 1770

                                                                      #284
                                                                      just thought I'd say....





























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                                                                      • Daruma
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                        • 3494

                                                                        #285
                                                                        Originally posted by 5pm
                                                                        It depends.
                                                                        Are you a business man
                                                                        or an amateur LOL!
                                                                        you have no idea who your talking to

                                                                        RIP TD

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                                                                        • Daruma
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                          • 3494

                                                                          #286
                                                                          also DH - you never ever ever answered my question previously

                                                                          how much of your business - income comes from installs?

                                                                          I guess your fucked huh...
                                                                          you say almost nothing - then everyone jumps on you for standing up to this
                                                                          you say its a pretty good part of your business - then everyone jumps on you for spreading the crap on the toast

                                                                          RIP TD

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                                                                          • jayeff
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • May 2001
                                                                            • 2944

                                                                            #287
                                                                            Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                            You guys are the ones putting up the smokescreen of speaking in generalities...
                                                                            With this type of issue, the generalities are what matters: p2pads is just one operator and in the long run of no real significance. Therefore the specifics of what he is doing are of even less significance.

                                                                            Some people pop up on threads like this, who appear to think everything is fine so long as the person doing something is "cool". They and the majority who avoid such threads are apparently unwilling to confront things which will damage them long-term, even though many plan to be around long enough to be affected. That is just ludicrous.

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                                                                            • Magnus
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 1211

                                                                              #288
                                                                              Originally posted by Solid Bob
                                                                              Maybe it hasn't been challenged but there is no chance it is legal even in Canada which is behind the times about 40 years.

                                                                              LMAO..Come to Toronto then go to NewPort Vermont and report back with your "behind 40 years" findings.
                                                                              Magnus

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                                                                              • RobbieRye
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Oct 2005
                                                                                • 616

                                                                                #289
                                                                                Originally posted by Daruma
                                                                                also DH - you never ever ever answered my question previously

                                                                                how much of your business - income comes from installs?

                                                                                I guess your fucked huh...
                                                                                you say almost nothing - then everyone jumps on you for standing up to this
                                                                                you say its a pretty good part of your business - then everyone jumps on you for spreading the crap on the toast
                                                                                0%

                                                                                There are currently no customers that are directing traffic through P2P Ads directly to a software program.

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                                                                                • WDjay
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                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                  • 381

                                                                                  #290
                                                                                  PREDICTION>>>>>>> Ok, here is how this thing will play out. A couple years from know all the companies everyone is complaining about will STOP doing the things that are making you all so upset. YOU WILL CLAIM VICTORY, shouting from the rooftops. It was your voice that made the change. Truth is that it was the market that changed and you had nothing to do with it. Here is what I can tell you about GTS and other large successful companies. While you complain, they are working on the next generation of products and services. Things nobody is complaining about because they are things nobody has see yet. Then you will complain about those. Its a cycle. There are only a small % of people who inovate. They get rich without breaking laws. They think ahead and use thier time wisley by thinking outside the box. And of course thier will always be the large % who dont. MARK< MAGNUS,,,,,fuck the haters. You'll be building and growing long after they are gone.

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                                                                                  • Daruma
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                                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                                    • 3494

                                                                                    #291
                                                                                    Originally posted by RobbieRye
                                                                                    0%

                                                                                    There are currently no customers that are directing traffic through P2P Ads directly to a software program.
                                                                                    key word = currently
                                                                                    key word = customers

                                                                                    what % in the past?
                                                                                    what % was the maximum?
                                                                                    do you guys push installs on 'left over' traffic so that would not qualify as 'customer'?

                                                                                    if the % is really sooooooo loooooowwwww

                                                                                    then why not just make a policy against it - anounce it and look like heros listening to your customer base?

                                                                                    be realistic about it - the overwelming majority of people in the business are against it

                                                                                    RIP TD

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                                                                                    • Missie
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                                      • 372

                                                                                      #292
                                                                                      Originally posted by WDjay
                                                                                      PREDICTION>>>>>>> Ok, here is how this thing will play out. A couple years from know all the companies everyone is complaining about will STOP doing the things that are making you all so upset. YOU WILL CLAIM VICTORY, shouting from the rooftops. It was your voice that made the change. Truth is that it was the market that changed and you had nothing to do with it. Here is what I can tell you about GTS and other large successful companies. While you complain, they are working on the next generation of products and services. Things nobody is complaining about because they are things nobody has see yet. Then you will complain about those. Its a cycle. There are only a small % of people who inovate. They get rich without breaking laws. They think ahead and use thier time wisley by thinking outside the box. And of course thier will always be the large % who dont. MARK< MAGNUS,,,,,fuck the haters. You'll be building and growing long after they are gone.
                                                                                      Looks like not everybody knows how to use the simple tools we have available today. You still have a red X in your signature. I hope future innovations are not that complicated.

                                                                                      Missie
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                                                                                      • WDjay
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                                                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                                                        • 381

                                                                                        #293
                                                                                        Originally posted by Missie
                                                                                        Looks like not everybody knows how to use the simple tools we have available today. You still have a red X in your signature. I hope future innovations are not that complicated.

                                                                                        Missie
                                                                                        Thanks for the heads up. I'll change it now. See, look at Missie. We can disagree and she's still looking out for best intrest. Way to be a team player.

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                                                                                        • 5pm
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Apr 2006
                                                                                          • 282

                                                                                          #294
                                                                                          Originally posted by Daruma
                                                                                          you have no idea who your talking to

                                                                                          I think you missed the sarcasm in my post.

                                                                                          I know exactly who I'm talking to, and was agreeing with him 100%.
                                                                                          baby Jesus never sleeps when you're being a sinner,
                                                                                          yeah he'll eat you for dinner

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                                                                                          • Quickdraw
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                                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                                            • 1717

                                                                                            #295
                                                                                            Originally posted by WDjay
                                                                                            MARK< MAGNUS,,,,,fuck the haters.
                                                                                            I doubt this thread would have ever been started if DrinkingHard hadn't told will76 to mind his own business in a thread about affiliate codes(commissions) blatantly being stolen.
                                                                                            Why would DrinkingHard support that? If anything he gave a negative impression about the type of installs he is doing.
                                                                                            He says he is not promoting zango in this thread, but his buddies are, or at the very least were, and doing a 'fair amount of installs' if I remember the thread right.

                                                                                            P.S. -- Do you really think you supporting him gives any credibility, given the kind of software you 'sell'?

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                                                                                            • jayeff
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                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                              • 2944

                                                                                              #296
                                                                                              Originally posted by WDjay
                                                                                              There are only a small % of people who inovate.
                                                                                              That is about the only true thing you wrote.

                                                                                              It is much easier and more profitable to squeeze a restaurant owner for protection money than to run a restaurant. Does that make the guy running a protection racket smart and therefore the restaurant owners should approve of him, regretting their own stupidity in working harder for less money.

                                                                                              According to your argument that is exactly how they should feel. You may deny that and say we are not discussing things which are illegal, but the point is exactly the same. An industry consists of businesses which exist to create and serve a customer base. It attracts people who provide products and services to help the industry function (better). And unfortunately it also attracts predators: those who provide nothing whatever except a way for themselves to make money from other peoples' labor, passing on a few crumbs to those who help them. The practical effect is exactly the same, whether their activities are legal or not.

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                                                                                              • WDjay
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Feb 2006
                                                                                                • 381

                                                                                                #297
                                                                                                Originally posted by Quickdraw
                                                                                                I doubt this thread would have ever been started if DrinkingHard hadn't told will76 to mind his own business in a thread about affiliate codes(commissions) blatantly being stolen.
                                                                                                Why would DrinkingHard support that? If anything he gave a negative impression about the type of installs he is doing.
                                                                                                He says he is not promoting zango in this thread, but his buddies are, or at the very least were, and doing a 'fair amount of installs' if I remember the thread right.

                                                                                                P.S. -- Do you really think you supporting him gives any credibility, given the kind of software you 'sell'?
                                                                                                If want to quote me, feel free. But quote the whole post.

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                                                                                                • Quickdraw
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                  • 1717

                                                                                                  #298
                                                                                                  Originally posted by WDjay
                                                                                                  If want to quote me, feel free. But quote the whole post.
                                                                                                  No need to quote all of your bs

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                                                                                                  • DarkJedi
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                                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                                    • 28301

                                                                                                    #299
                                                                                                    lol what a clusterfuck

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                                                                                                    • 5pm
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                                                                                                      • Apr 2006
                                                                                                      • 282

                                                                                                      #300
                                                                                                      Originally posted by WDjay
                                                                                                      If want to quote me, feel free. But quote the whole post.

                                                                                                      NEW SIG FOR THE DAY< NO REF CODE!!!!! WHAT A DEAL.
                                                                                                      no link either smarty pants.

                                                                                                      baby Jesus never sleeps when you're being a sinner,
                                                                                                      yeah he'll eat you for dinner

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