Unless you have dealt with someone before and trust them, you should always have a written contract/agreement. It doesn't have to be much, a simple half-page receipt takes minutes to write.
One, it would have specified the currency (even if that's not the issue here).
Two, it would have specified EXACTLY the terms of the deal (in this case the nature of the content).
Then, there is no misunderstanding or argument needed.
Nappy, let's look at the timeline here. You do realize how long after the fact it was that the kid that doesn't know when to keep quiet decided he didn't like the content . . . right?
Let's put your analogy in better perspective . . . you think 2 months after you bought the truck you could decide you didn't like the color?
BULLSHIT. i told aaron AS SOON as i got the content i didn't like it.
its not my fault it took aaron over 1 month to send it.
BULLSHIT. i told aaron AS SOON as i got the content i didn't like it.
its not my fault it took aaron over 1 month to send it.
I wonder how many lies I will catch you in before this is over?
Notice the dates.......
[18:58] sonofsam signed on at Thu Apr 14 18:58:09 2005.
[20:38] sonofsam: yo aaron
[20:38] sonofsam : whats with all the viruses on the cds?
[20:38] sonofsam: just fuckin with ya :P
Now let's see...THAT was April 14th.
Now let's check in 3 days later.....
Session Start (ICQ - AaronM:sonofsam): Sun Apr 17 00:14:55 2005
[00:14] sonofsam: aaron, would u have a problem with me selling the content to someone for the same price i got it as?
[01:14] sonofsam: why are there gothic sets and pregnant sets on here?
[01:42] sonofsam: sorry but im not satisfied with this content at all... most of these girls have tattoos and are ugly... lots of gothic girls... even pregnant scenes? overweight girls.... .. these arn't "girl next door attainable girls"
hahahah Aaron, wow you proved a LOT with that thread, you know yourself that you sent the content to my MOMS address, and the reason i didn't send it to my own address was because i was moving... and you know thats not bullshit, because i gave you my current address.....
now if you think i'm lying, you can ask the webdesigner for www.BankingBucks.com because he knows me personally and knows where my moms house is , and knows where MY house is...
my mom had called and said i got mail, and i went and grabbed it 3 days later
theres your explanation, if you would like i can prove it for you?
edit: in fact, the webdesigner has BEEN to both of my addresses, and can vouch for which addresses they are...
Let us also not forget that this was all AFTER you informed me that you had over extended yourself and were broke then asked for a refund.
Seriously Mike...How far are you going to go to try to strong arm a refund out of me?
Yeah, I read where you said to keep the money but you and I both know that was to save face and that the only way you will be happy is if I do refund it to you....Which BTW is not going to happen.
hahahah Aaron, wow you proved a LOT with that thread, you know yourself that you sent the content to my MOMS address, and the reason i didn't send it to my own address was because i was moving... and you know thats not bullshit, because i gave you my current address.....
now if you think i'm lying, you can ask the webdesigner for www.BankingBucks.com because he knows me personally and knows where my moms house is , and knows where MY house is...
my mom had called and said i got mail, and i went and grabbed it 3 days later
theres your explanation, if you would like i can prove it for you?
edit: in fact, the webdesigner has BEEN to both of my addresses, and can vouch for which addresses they are...
I never said I didn't send it to your Mommy's house. I know I did...But you came back hours later and joked about the CD's having viruses.
Proof of yet another lie...This time, check the time stamp...Same day:
[13:44] sonofsam: i'll call, its not my address... thats my parents house
[13:44] sonofsam: one sec
[13:46] AaronM: k
[13:53] sonofsam: yah, got it
[13:53] sonofsam: thank
[13:53] AaronM:
[14:33] sonofsam signed off at Thu Apr 14 14:33:13 2005.
6 hours and a trip to Mommy's house later.......
[20:38] sonofsam: yo aaron
[20:38] sonofsam: whats with all the viruses on the cds?
[20:38] sonofsam: just fuckin with ya :P
[21:22] sonofsam signed off at Thu Apr 14 21:22:18 2005.
also, how would i be trying to get a refund out of you with this? was my initial post that hard to comprehend, i said i dont want your money and that i wouldn't even accept it.
1. Since SoS was not trying to profit from posting sample pictures, but simply used some of the sample pictures to demonstrate a point in a public forum (that the content did not fit the description of what he thought he had ordered), which is exempt from being a copyright violation by the fair-use doctrine, and furthermore, since SoS showed good faith by removing the pictures when ordered to do so by AaronM under threat of legal action (even though SoS was possibly not legally required to do so), SoS is not liable for copyright infringement.
2. As to the issue of slander and liable levied by both Dumb and Dumber, look at the name of the web site both of you are hurling profanities and insults on..."Go Fuck Yourself" - enough said.
Ruling:
You are both insufferable pricks...therefore there is only one fair way to resolve this mess:
SoS, give the content that you received back to AaronM. Destroy any digital records you have of it, and never use any of the content.
AaronM, give SoS back his money.
Finally, both of you drop this issue!
Now, both of you get out of here, and I never want to see you (or read your posts) in here again...
BTW....Until this thread, I was finished. This whole thing was over and done with as far as I was concerned.
But SOS had to go and start it up again after bitching about me to Alien on ICQ. Which reminds me...Aren't you the guy who denied talking shit about me on ICQ? That's what I thought....Another lie.
I agree. And this thread simply makes everyone look bad.
Good business is not about being right. It's about keeping your customers happy and maintaining relationships.
Good business is about protecting your rights as well.
If a customer tramples your rights then there is no sense in trying to please that customer any more. They have done damage and will not be back for more business so it's best to protect your own interests and do what you need to do to make sure that it doesn't happen again.
and btw aaron, keep trying to discredit me with small insignificant facts....
edit: forgot to add that you got proven wrong even on your insignificant details
You're starting to sound like a broken record with that line. Kinda like when you asked the same questions over and over again even though they had already been answered.
Go away..You're like a cockroach. Every time I turn out the light to go to bed, you come crawling back.
Good business is about protecting your rights as well.
If a customer tramples your rights then there is no sense in trying to please that customer any more. They have done damage and will not be back for more business so it's best to protect your own interests and do what you need to do to make sure that it doesn't happen again.
just scoured over the thread... how exactly did he trample on your rights?
Sounds like someone got screwed but not kissed, Sos sounds like you got screwed on this deal. But man oh man i can not stress this enough get things in writing. Good luck to you man.....
As a potential customer, I'm unphased because the fact you don't want your money back leaves me with doubts that you know you've done something wrong somewhere and acknowledge that. I don't buy your story anymore.
You are not the only one trust me...
Plenty more good (or better alternatives) that don't play this childish games...
Hey, wtf ? you're having reservations now ?
I thought the deal was cool.
Hope you're joking.
nah i was joking bro, lol... you are the second person to take that the wrong way... i was making a joke about how when we used to fight... and that i should have jacked you when i got your money...bad joke and some people thought i was serious, lol
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