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Whats the lie?
You took 3600 bucks of his and he didnt get shit for it?
Damn you eros!!!!
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Originally posted by sonofsam
Yep...You're in pretty deep with the lies and exagerations.
The copyright infringement is worth 10.5k by default. Not 10's of thousands.
Here's an idea...STFU. I'm not sure what you were thinking by starting this thread because I've definitely taken way more heat than this in the past from other bullshitters like you...I'm still here, still doing business, and they are all gone.
Chances are very good that you too will be gone if you continue to do business the way you did.Comment
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i have not lied once aaron.
and btw, your threats arn't scaring anyone aaron, make no mistake.... just because you own a couple of guns, does NOT make you a gangster.I like turtles.Comment
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worth every bump...
i feel sorry for you son of sam...Comment
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You keep trying to discredit me with small insignificant facts, and btw.. you DID say 10's of thousands.. did you forget about your threat of a LIBEL LAWSUITS?Originally posted by AaronMI like turtles.Comment
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Give the dude back his $3600, then sue him for defimation of character & infringement.
Seems like the right thing to do, if i'm reading correctly.Comment
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Originally posted by machinegunkelly
Huh?
No, that's not why.
This thread is too funny.
Hey sos...Yes, please go talk to an attorney. Tell them:
1: How I cut you a deal
2: Showed you EXACTLY what you were getting
3:Sent you the content twice before receiving final payment so that you could get started on site design
4: Tell them how you requested a refund BEFORE you got the content because you were broke and needed the money back
5: Tell them how you have continued to lie on GFY, ICQ, and the phone to various people about this.
6: Tell them that you had no right to publish the images without a license and were specifically told not to but did it anyway.
7: Tell them how you came to GFY to damage my rep.
THEN tell them that after all this I decided to cut you even more slack and simply pull your license.
While they are laughing you out of their office, think about how you will handle your business dealings in the future.Comment
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Yeah if "The copyright infringement is worth 10.5k by default." then your still ahead and you will have proven to be right again.Originally posted by pr0Comment
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So return the money, or liscense his content. And then take him to court for defimation, libel & infringement.
You can't just legally take his $ & say fuck off.
Thats not how business works bro.Comment
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Originally posted by seven
Have you ever seen a license agreement for content?
A license is in place for a reason. There are certain rights assigned and certain rights kept. That's the intent of a license. If those rights are broken by the other party then the person who issues the license has the right to terminate the license.
sos never even got so far as to have the license issued before he broke it. Why would I then continue to consider issuing the license knowing that I will revoke it anyway?
He made a lot of mistakes and it cost him his down payment. He was warned and had plenty of opportunities to not fuck up...But he chose a different rod to travel.Comment
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If he refunds the $3600, wouldn't that kinda fuck him over in the defamation case, Sonofsam would have a good argument and his attornies would question why the money was refunded?Originally posted by pr0
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1: How I cut you a deal
i'm pretty sure many content producers would have gladly given me 750 sets for 4500
2: Showed you EXACTLY what you were getting
You did NOT show me what you were giving me, if that was true... why did you offer to refund the bald sets? i thought u said you told me exactly what you were giving me?
3:Sent you the content twice before receiving final payment so that you could get started on site design
you make it sound like it was a favor that you sent it 2 times? not my fault u didn't send it properly, and then lied about sending it through UPS and then changed your story to the mail office fucked it up and didn't give you a tracking number yadda yadda yadda
4: Tell them how you requested a refund BEFORE you got the content because you were broke and needed the money back
asking you for a refund makes a difference why? i asked it as a favor and offered to let you keep 500 of it for your troubles... its not like a DEMANDED a refund... i told you many times i didn't DEMAND one..
5: Tell them how you have continued to lie on GFY, ICQ, and the phone to various people about this.
I havn't lied about SHIT
6: Tell them that you had no right to publish the images without a license and were specifically told not to but did it anyway.
i had a right to use the content to make a paysite and make sales off it, as agreed upon with our arangement... but the moment i am not happy with the content and post samples on the forum it becomes "copywrite infringement" ? interesting... looks like someone can't handle someone not liking their content and being a baby about it.
7: Tell them how you came to GFY to damage my rep.
hell yes, i believe i was scammed and i'm pissed off...
now tell me what i have to gain by lying, since i already said i don't even want the money back?I like turtles.Comment
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4500 for 65,000 images are those exclusive because if so there is no money in content lolComment
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Originally posted by Danny DukesIf he refunds the $3600, wouldn't that kinda fuck him over in the defamation case, Sonofsam would have a good argument and his attornies would question why the money was refunded?
No it would fuck up the infringement case, which is based on a contract.
But i'm not a lawyer
Of course the contract would have to say "I can keep your money if you post my pictures on gfy"Last edited by pr0; 05-22-2005, 08:59 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by sonofsam
Where did you come up with this theory?
I'm not about that you didn't like the content. I'm upset at the ways that you try to deal with it and the lies that you have told about me in doing so.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?Comment
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i don't want the 3600 back, nor would i accept it back... i am not in a good financial situation but i would never accept the money... why? to prove i have nothing to gain by lying.Originally posted by Danny DukesIf he refunds the $3600, wouldn't that kinda fuck him over in the defamation case, Sonofsam would have a good argument and his attornies would question why the money was refunded?I like turtles.Comment
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4500 for 65,000 picsOriginally posted by tony404
what was delivered was 60k images, and not what i asked forI like turtles.Comment
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Originally posted by sonofsam
More lies.
If my memory serves me correctly...You are the one who brought it to the boards.
Is this the 3rd time you have done that or were there others?
Not once did I bring it to the boards. You did.Comment
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exactly right, pr0 must be retardedOriginally posted by Danny DukesIf he refunds the $3600, wouldn't that kinda fuck him over in the defamation case, Sonofsam would have a good argument and his attornies would question why the money was refunded?Comment
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well lets see, the initial arangement was that i use the content to make a paysite and once i had it up and established, making sales... to pay the remainder... no?Originally posted by AaronM
but the moment i disliked what you sent me, it became copywrite infringement..... so aaron, explain to me... if i was happy with the content and went on to make my paysite... it would have been fine... but the moment i was upset with it, and posted samples here.. it became copywrite infringement... interesting.I like turtles.Comment
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Originally posted by Danny Dukes
I have openly admitted that I have shot some butt ugly girls and they were included in that package. Nothing to be embarrassed about.Comment
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right... because if someone has you on their ICQ IGNORE, and don't answer their phone... they have many options other then GFY right?Originally posted by AaronMI like turtles.Comment
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$3600 = 0 Pics from AMPCONTENT.
NO REFUNDS
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Originally posted by AaronM
Maybe because you have $3600 & he doesn't have anything?
Cmon dude....this just makes you look bad
you fucked someone over because they posted some ill looking chicks on gfy & it made you look bad, admit it
send this kid back a bone so he can pay his rent....& i got the strippers next time i see yaComment
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If what Aaron says is true, then he still has infringment(10.5k) and could still try to argue defamation and character assasination.Originally posted by Danny DukesIf he refunds the $3600, wouldn't that kinda fuck him over in the defamation case, Sonofsam would have a good argument and his attornies would question why the money was refunded?Comment
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YOU KEEP DODGING MY QUESTION...Originally posted by AaronM
if you CLAIM that you showed me EXACTLY what i was getting, then why in the other thread did you offer to refund the BALD sets?!
also... why is there a pregnant set?
also... why is there 60k images instead of the said 65k
these questions are valid questions, and deserve to be answeredI like turtles.Comment
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This is one case where it would have been the wiser course of action to not take it to the boards at all. Had Sos asked around quietly as to who knows AaronM well, I'm sure he would have found someone willing to mediate for him if that's what was needed, and I'm equally sure this mess could have been avoided if not settle amicably.
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You know what, fuck it......i don't even care
i stuck my nose in business that doesn't concern me....im outComment
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Originally posted by spunky
sos clearly does not care about legal action. He has nothing to lose.
I've already spent a lot of money with my local IP attorney about this issue. We've explored all of the angles.
I was hoping that Mike would learn a little something from this experience but so far, all I see is more lies. Nothing learned.
So Mike...What's it gonna take for you to learn when to stop lying and trying to hurt my business. How far and hard do I need to push this issue?Comment
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See there you go Aaron, you had to bring up Ramona in this! She's not the best looking girl in the world, but to call her butt ugly is just wrong!Originally posted by AaronM
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here we go again with you pretending to be the nice guy by SPARING me the lawsuit, buddy.... get over yourself.I like turtles.Comment
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Originally posted by rambler
Yeah right...
He got stiffed and said somthing thats not defamation of character dim nut.
He didnt get what he wanted by anymeans obviously and when he was told to shove it...
Damn right he gonna post the pics.
DUH...
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Originally posted by sonofsam
Have I ever threatened you with a gun? No.
Have I ever claimed to be a gangster? No.
I never threatened you. I gave you ultimatums. You chose poorly.
Deal with the repercussions.Comment
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Wheres all your good buttuglys guy?Originally posted by AaronMTop virtual hosts for under 10$? www.hostmylife.com | icq 50663030Comment
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Originally posted by pr0
Actually, yes..I can.
And yes, it is.
Like you said...You have bought content from me in the past. Let me catch you violating the license and I will do the same to you.
WTF do you think a license is issued for in the first place? More importantly...WTF good is issuing a license if you do not intend to enforce it?
I fully intend to enforce mine. If protecting my legal rights is not considered good business then I'm not sure what is.Comment
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i have the icq logs, lucky for you i am not a RAT.. and you don't need to say you're a gangster.. you keep saying it in subtle ways likeOriginally posted by AaronM
"last words will be said face to face"
"i'm not worried, i have plenty of friends in vancouver right down the road from you"
"i can't wait to meet you in person, i'm not exactly known for being a keyboard warrior, time will tell"
pleaaaase... you have both my addresses.. send over your fucking friends.. you think you can scare me with your keyboard judo?
Edit: i have the icq logs of the threats, not the gangster claims or gun claims... lolLast edited by sonofsam; 05-22-2005, 09:14 PM.I like turtles.Comment
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Originally posted by Danny DukesIf he refunds the $3600, wouldn't that kinda fuck him over in the defamation case, Sonofsam would have a good argument and his attornies would question why the money was refunded?
That would be more about the infringement case. But you have the right idea.Comment
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You're an idiot... Letting AaronM just walk away with your money proves nothing except you'll let people rip you off... AaronM owes you the money back since he says he wouldn't even give you the license if you paid him the remaining funds. He can't say he's "revoking" the license since it was never in effect in the first place... He has money for lawyers (YOUR money by the way.... and you don't it sounds like) and so he can bully you into walking away... You were warned this sort of thing would happen.. You deserve what happens to you...Originally posted by sonofsamComment
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Like I said in my post: IF what Aaron says is true...Originally posted by AlienQComment
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Isn't it pretty expensive to sue someone in another country ?Originally posted by AaronM
Would probally cost more than you'd get out of anyone in this case .Comment
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Aaron just cool the barrel and take off. We all know who is right here and it's not Sam.Comment
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AARONM
These questions still remain unanswered...
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also... why is there a pregnant set?
also... why is there 60k images instead of the said 65k
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Originally posted by BradM
clearly some people DON'T just side with him, for the sake of siding with him...I like turtles.Comment
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Originally posted by sonofsam
1: Possibly.
2: Another lie.
3: It was sent properly and the second time you did get a tracking number...Although the tracking number was late because of the fuck up at the mailing center...The package was still tracked and received on time.
4: It makes a difference because you are trying to pass off that you requested a refund because you did not like the content. Then truth is you are broke and used the ugly sets in the content as another excuse to try to strong arm a refund out of me.
5: Yes, you have. Multiple times in this thread even.
6: Me allowing you to use the content for site design before being paid in full and issuing you a license does not give you the right to publish those images in an attempt to damage my credibility.
7: Thank you for publicly admitting that you came here to damage my rep. I'll bookmark this thread as yet another exhibit should this end up in court.
As for what you have to gain by lying and so forth...Fuck if I know.
You have nothing to gain from this thread either but you still decided to start it and bring this issue back to GFY. How in the hell am I supposed to know what makes your brain tick?Comment
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Originally posted by sonofsam
Keep dodging it YET again.I like turtles.Comment
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Aaron keeps trying to shut the kid up. I wonder why? If you are secure with your decision, Aaron, why are you concerned with him talking on GFY?SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Originally posted by sonofsam
No is the correct answer.
Thank you for playing.
Now...Please excuse me...I am about to get a phone call from pr0 and he and I have a lot of catching up to do.
See ya later.
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