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I will repost thisOriginally posted by DrinkingHARDERPlease repost this in 6 weeks from now. TRUST ME
Both the sponsors you are using take time to turn the free surfer into the full surfer. You will start seeing free signups turn into paid and then the money will start rolling in.
Have patience Obie One
DH Dont worry
to Brad Gosse: 3rd url is monstersofcock.com (bangbrosonline) - I dont know number of sales - They dont have campaign tracking feature..ICQ: 82-100-033Comment
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@ this thread
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Originally posted by Lord Nelson @ this thread
Yeah its quite funny.Comment
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Originally posted by chadglniToo much work. However on this traffic source the company getting the money is doing all the work anyhow so they could easily fill it slap ass full of their own stuff. The answer is that the price is set at or above how much they expect to make themselves so they are doing the work at zero risk.
bingo.... people do this in a lot of industries. I can't tell you how many times I see this.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Originally posted by Franck
Franck here is the million dollar question... how do you think they came up with their pricing? Seriously, how did they pick $10K..... they did a bunch of test and they probably made 8K from their own sponsors, so they figured we will do it for someone else and make more, guranteed. If that person turns a profit, then more power to them, if not we find 10 more like him to try it.
How else would they pick 10K?? They know what they can make from it, trust me. If they could make 12K doing it themselves they would be selling it for 15K....
A lot of advertisers on Google are not affiliates, google can't own every company in the world. A lot of people on the Hun don't make money, same logic applies to to them from what p2p is doing, he has his prices set just high enough... all most all companies do this.Last edited by will76; 02-09-2006, 08:38 PM.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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people dont go to p2p to spend money its freeloader central, the only benefit I can see is to send it to pop up hell to clean it to niche toplist traffic.Comment
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And what's a TGP? LOL!Originally posted by tony404
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what's that word I'm looking for?Originally posted by DrinkingHARDER
touche'
lol, seriously...were there ever any pretenses about this being SE traffic? I missed that day...
Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.
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Its not the same people go to p2p for free shit be it music ,software, videos. they are not people who spend money. You know this, I wonder if one spent 10 grand in a month on google ad words what their results would be compared to p2p?Originally posted by DrinkingHARDERComment
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I like having my butt hole licked
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Fucking Machines are like CASH MACHINES
See RAM on these quality sites!!
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LOL! Common Tony404 I know you're smarter than this. Don't typecast all these surfers as non paying freeloaders when you know better than anyone these are the same guys surfing TGP's.Originally posted by tony404
Common 60 million surfers a month can't all be without a credit card right? LOL!
And I encourage you to spend 10k on adwords and see the ROI you get on that, I very much doubt you will get your money back in this day and age of bidding, unless of course your name is "Wiredguy".
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I know you do!Originally posted by RAMI like having my butt hole licked
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Originally posted by will76
You are totally correct and ofcourse i knew this already. Although i asked that question it wasnt really what i was aiming at. The thing that bugged me...actually still bugs me is the thread starter and his stats....we all know this is not the typical p2pads buyer. Once again there is more going on then just a random traffic buying noob who decides to post his stats. His and previous anouncements of the p2pads team made it look like were dealing with:
A High quality traffic
B Great prices
Both are bs. And thats my point.
If DH or Brad or someone else started a thread saying: "ok, we got tons of traffic, it isnt the best traffic in the world but with the right tweaking and testing you can make profit" and sell it for a decent price you wouldnt see me in that thread.
As i said before on gfy. Im not an asshole, i just dont like BS. When i smell BS i post and become annoying. And thats what happened with this thread.
I wonder how many noobs hit up DH right away to buy a campaign only to find out next month their stats dont look ANYTHING like the thread starter and they blew all their money on shitty traffic. This will happen to 9 out of 10 people who read this thread and decided to give it a go.Last edited by Dirty F; 02-10-2006, 01:16 AM.Comment
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newsflash! freeloaders love free porn, there are many programs out there that will pay you to give your surfer a free porn membership. I make 90% of my income from buying traffic and sending it to sponsers, why dont all these people I buy from just send traffic to sponsers? they could be making more money right? Ever think it might take some work to convert traffic, trial and error, design tweaks ect. Think about the volume of traffic P2P has, do you really expect a couple guys can optimize all this traffic?
long story shot I have been in this business for 5 years and have done very well buying traffic and gaining a nice ROI from sponsers...guess everyone I buy from just doesnt like moneyComment
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Until I put you back on my ignore list Franck, I'm going to start all new threads with "ok, we got tons of traffic". Is that good enough? Will you know what I mean?If DH or Brad or someone else started a thread saying: "ok, we got tons of traffic, it isnt the best traffic in the world but with the right tweaking and testing you can make profit" and sell it for a decent price you wouldn't see me in that thread.
I'm just kidding of course, but man, thanks a lot for making this interesting in straight up GFY fashion!Comment
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im jealous of DH... i hope he diesCrypto HODLr
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j/k man heheCrypto HODLr
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Nobody said our traffic was as good as SE traffic. But try getting 100k visitors from Google for $500 lol.
There will ALWAYS be winners AND losers in traffic buying situations. Nobody is saying 100% of our clients are going to make 150% return on investment.
I really don't like the tone of people who think we somehow faked this thread. CT is a real webmaster (and he is no NOOB) and a real P2P Ads client. If you don't know him it's probably because you don't go to any trade shows.
And then there is poor Franck who spends more time in a thread about p2pads than most of the staff at the company have. You must be independently wealthy or paid for your sig impressions bud. Otherwise you may have neglected your business and family while wasting so much of your own time trying to tear us down. But thanks for all the bumps man, this thread just won't die and that's great for me
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i don't think people think you faked the thread so much as you requested CT to post something like this for promo. i don't see why he would post it for no reason. like others said, if something is successful, why water it down by telling everyone how great it is?Originally posted by Brad GosseNobody said our traffic was as good as SE traffic. But try getting 100k visitors from Google for $500 lol.
There will ALWAYS be winners AND losers in traffic buying situations. Nobody is saying 100% of our clients are going to make 150% return on investment.
I really don't like the tone of people who think we somehow faked this thread. CT is a real webmaster (and he is no NOOB) and a real P2P Ads client. If you don't know him it's probably because you don't go to any trade shows.
And then there is poor Franck who spends more time in a thread about p2pads than most of the staff at the company have. You must be independently wealthy or paid for your sig impressions bud. Otherwise you may have neglected your business and family while wasting so much of your own time trying to tear us down. But thanks for all the bumps man, this thread just won't die and that's great for me
and as for franck, i think he just doesn't like the direction you guys seem to be taking the industry, capitalizing off the webmaster, pay for play everywhere you go. the webmasters who once could earn traffic on skill and rep now have to pay like a common noob. i don't like that, i don't see why anyone would aside from those who couldn't get listed without having to pay.
i am sure many are very envious of your company, i know i am but at the same time you seem to be 'whoring out' one traffic source after the other which isn't good in the long run.you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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this is such a bullshit , why do u guys always bring the negative inside those threads... i meen why people sell traffic? cause people have NO POWER on setting campaigns , looking for what converts and what not.
for example people buy ads on kaktuz for year now RECURRING month after month , you agree with me people that people WOULDNT buy again if this wasnt worth it? sure u do.
u agree that basicly i could put my own ads the same way as the dude who is buying from me does? but i dont , why?
cause i dont have the power on looking thru 10000 sponsors and know what converts best , i make more selling the traffic instead after 4 month find the best sponsor that converts for my traffic.
so simple as that , and why u always have to be so negative? just mind your own biz and let people make their $ , no one here came scamming you and told u U MUST BUY p2pads right? so wats the prob?..
im not for PRO or AGAINST p2pads but simply i belive each and his own biz.EMAIL: admin [AT] kaktuz.com
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The mere fact that you're attacking Franck on a personal level makes me think that he raised very valid points.Originally posted by Brad GosseAnd then there is poor Franck who spends more time in a thread about p2pads than most of the staff at the company have. You must be independently wealthy or paid for your sig impressions bud. Otherwise you may have neglected your business and family while wasting so much of your own time trying to tear us down. But thanks for all the bumps man, this thread just won't die and that's great for me
As for what I think about this, here it goes:
1. If I had to try p2p traffic I think I'd be ten times better off is I spend 1000 bucks or less and do it myself. Am I going to get mad amount of traffic? No, I don't think so, but I'll most certainly get an idea as to what I can do with that traffic, see if I can turn some profit, and then if everything goes well scale it up.
2. Of course if you spend $10 000 a month on sweets alone, by all means give p2pads a try and let us know how you did.
3. As for the people that claim that you need some uber-custom-made-oh-so-secret-and-impossible-to-find software that's total bullshit, if you spend the time and make some effort you'll find everything you need.
p.s. Please do not burn any embassies or flags because of this post, thank you.Last edited by Antonio; 02-10-2006, 06:48 AM.Comment
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Originally posted by Antonio
There is no secret in p2p spam. Any clueless idiot can find a good software for it, and order the free drm license from MS and spam himself.
The hard part, is to figure out at low cost what is working and what not, to do some money. (ROI)Comment
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This could be a great traffic source to grow a tgp .... i bet prod would be killer lolOriginally posted by rayadp05Comment
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To squash all of these rumors about me "being paid" or doing a "promo" for p2pads, I would like to say the following:
When I first purchased my p2p campaign, I was a little shaky and very skeptical. But, I knew the reputation of the guys at p2pads/GTS as I have worked with them before. Immediately after my campaign started, they were more than willing to help me with ideas of where to send this type of traffic. With their help, and my own extensive research, I was able to find a system that was able to work very well for me. Nowhere in this thread have I told you my exact game plan, nor would I as this is the TRUE "secret". I posted this thread on my own to show gratitude to these guys for what they have ALREADY done for me, not for any future "discounts", "deals", or "points". I also posted it for the following reasons:
A) I consider these guys my friends and the last of a dying breed of people who actually want to see others succeed.
B) I was tired of hearing negative things about their company and their process that was being posted by "misinformed" or "underinformed" readers.
C) Because I am a true skeptic, and I wish someone would have posted something like this when I was first considering a p2pads campaign.
In fact, even after it first started I was worried that I wasn't going to make my money back. They convinced to wait out the whole campaign before making an overall judgement of the success of my campaign. As the weeks passed by, I started to realize the true potential of the p2p system.
To Franck;
I don't know what your motive is being such a naysayer, but I understand your skepticism as I have been there before. If you truly are worried about a p2pads campaign, why don't you try hitting these guys up on Icq? Or better yet, talk to one of them at the trade shows. You can't succeed in this industry with a business that strictly screws people. These guys are not new to this industry and they have names and reputations to upkeep.
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Yes, it IS. I've never met a bookmarker I didn't likeOriginally posted by Doctor Dre
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Thats the difference between you and me...im discussing your product and mentioned several times i have no problem at all with you people. But look how you respond...you cant handle my criticism (is that english?) and start talking like this....quite sad. I still have no problem with you personally but if you start talking like this i can change my mind if you want. And believe me, i can take your future threads to a whole different level where i wont be nice anymore if thats what you like. Just tell me man.Originally posted by Brad GosseNobody said our traffic was as good as SE traffic. But try getting 100k visitors from Google for $500 lol.
There will ALWAYS be winners AND losers in traffic buying situations. Nobody is saying 100% of our clients are going to make 150% return on investment.
I really don't like the tone of people who think we somehow faked this thread. CT is a real webmaster (and he is no NOOB) and a real P2P Ads client. If you don't know him it's probably because you don't go to any trade shows.
And then there is poor Franck who spends more time in a thread about p2pads than most of the staff at the company have. You must be independently wealthy or paid for your sig impressions bud. Otherwise you may have neglected your business and family while wasting so much of your own time trying to tear us down. But thanks for all the bumps man, this thread just won't die and that's great for meComment
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Originally posted by Antonio
Thanks for noticing that as well...Comment
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franck is just angry and european...please excuse him brad.If it werent for GFY he would have no voice in the adult communitySig heil
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Originally posted by Antonio
Thats what i was thinking/saying...people who bought a 5k or 10k package...wtf! Ok, it might be some more work to start but in the long run its so much more interesting to spend 10k on setting this up yourself. 10k gets you in the right direction for sure!Comment
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Originally posted by TDF
I wonder what took you so long to give your 2cts. Ofcourse we all know you have a voice in the adult industry right
Fucking retard.Comment
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What prevents people from doing this themselves with their own servers? Can't they just create these files and mass distribute them for free over p2p networks?Comment
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If you think like this, get a p2pads packageOriginally posted by wedouglas
Its really more work than this lolComment
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I could make 30-40K after costs with 10K in adwords.Originally posted by DrinkingHARDERLOL! Common Tony404 I know you're smarter than this. Don't typecast all these surfers as non paying freeloaders when you know better than anyone these are the same guys surfing TGP's.
Common 60 million surfers a month can't all be without a credit card right? LOL!
And I encourage you to spend 10k on adwords and see the ROI you get on that, I very much doubt you will get your money back in this day and age of bidding, unless of course your name is "Wiredguy".
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I'm not doubting the work involved, but I think $5-10K would be a good start.Originally posted by CryptComment
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Yeah , 10k is a good start + the workOriginally posted by wedouglasComment
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Originally posted by FranckI wonder what took you so long to give your 2cts. Ofcourse we all know you have a voice in the adult industry right
Fucking retard.
but you are in idiot.anyone with half a brain can see that..durrrrrrrrrrrrrrSig heil
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Yup, i'm in idiot.Originally posted by TDFComment
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Originally posted by Crypt
Hahahahahahahhaha ... Idiot, you know shit LOLComment
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that sounds like as bad of a reply as something tony404 would say. i would expect more from you because i know you're smart. adwords is probably the same as p2pads, or any other purchased advertising. only the people who know what they're doing will make any money off of it.Originally posted by DrinkingHARDERAnd I encourage you to spend 10k on adwords and see the ROI you get on that, I very much doubt you will get your money back in this day and age of bidding, unless of course your name is "Wiredguy".
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I can play as well the kid game to bump 300 of your olds threadOriginally posted by Trade_Monkey
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Being European is a disqualifying factor to you? Trust you are a native North American, then? Or have you just forgotten where most non indigenous people living in the USA are originating from? What about your own roots?Originally posted by TDF
TDF, any form of racism is a bad thing. People are assholes or not assholes, this does NOT depend on their eithnic group. Common sense 101. Should you happen to be a caucasian, your statement is not only a bad thing per se, but just plain stupid.Comment
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Originally posted by DrinkingHARDESTPlease repost this in 6 weeks from now. TRUST ME
Both the sponsors you are using take time to turn the free surfer into the full surfer. You will start seeing free signups turn into paid and then the money will start rolling in.
Have patience Obie One
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6 weeks are up lets see some stats
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Originally posted by Head_Hunter6 weeks are up lets see some stats
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My stats for March so far
I am sending about 30,000 uniques a day to another site as well that is not included here.
So just over $4,000 a month income.
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Couldn't one just set up a folder like on Shareeza with a bunch of spam for a site, like dating or something like that and do p2p advertising yourself without spending all that money on something that may or may not work for your sites and niches? Sorry if this is a dumb question. lol.Comment
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Bump!
I need more opinions on this one, hehe
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Russian,
I emailed you more info.
Thanks,
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