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Xvideos - beware
I have just tried to log into XVideos and I was greeted by this message :
All actions will be locked until you either accept or reject these terms : Due to recent events we have to request the following : all the videos you upload under your account will remain on XVIDEOS and you renounce the right to request them to be deleted. Accepting this will allow you to update your account and upload again. Rejecting this will cause your channel and all your videos to be deleted. You do not want to be giving these rights to a tube site, ANY tube site. Yes, it is their site, and they can change their ToS to suit themselves, and that is exactly what xvideos have done here. Xvideos are forcing you to give up your copyright, give them perpetual rights and ownership over every clip you have ever uploaded to them via their CPP. You lose complete control over YOUR content and this is NOT something you should be doing. You never know what is going to happen in the future, and what is on the imminent horizon for content owners in this industry. My advise is to NOT agree, but NOT disagree at this point. Leave your account in "limbo" and do not upload any further clips to them until further notice.
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Outrageous insolence from industry parasites.
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That's very.... hmm... rude at least...
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you should post this on adult [*ip*]
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Just great
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Epic..I'm glad I don't upload to ANY tube..
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Thanks for the heads up.
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Is that even legal, to offer that kind of major contract change as a one click TOS agreement item? Crazy for anyone to even consider terms like that.
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This is very interesting (bad) news! I have just started uploading to XVideos after years of not doing so....I wonder if I'm the cause of all this. LOL
Thanks for the head's up!!
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It sounds legal (Im not a lawyer so who knows). Its on the uploader to ONLY upload vids THEY own, which Im sure will happen all the time, LOL
Great thing about the free market, you can agree to it, or go elsewhere I wonder what the catalyst was. Must have been something big, it sure wasn't just "too many" DMCA requests. |
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Just logged in and have the same message... no more uploads from me
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If xvideos owns the co.jp tild DMCA notices are the least of their worries.
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Fuck tubes and the programs uploading to them...
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Someone was uploading 'user submitted' uploads day after day and some company (companies?) started noticing this and sent out DMCAs on a daily basis. But the vids would go right back up so the circle jerk continued until the legal rights owner got pissed and decided to sue. Possible? If so, if anything like the above happened, then it's tick tick tick until ALL tube sites do the same thing. Adapt or die indeed. ![]()
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Means nothing to people who never uploaded to their thieving asses. Not sure why anyone would be in a CPP with a site like that.
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Their "best of" section is pretty cool: http://www.xvideos.com/best/day/
Almost entirely piracy. I am fairly certain they have no active repeat infringer policy in place either - that if companies are submitting DMCAs to the same submitter, after 2 or 3 strikes they arent killing the accounts and the videos inside of those accounts, they are doing as little as possible to remain compliant with the law, but in all likelihood they may not be compliant. :2cents Check out this user: http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/index1#_tabVideos Anybody want to test my theory? |
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its a manoeuvre by Xvideos to counteract my request last week to them (and other major tubes) to have all of my FakeTaxi.com clips removed from their site because I have signed an exclusive deal on FakeTaxi.com with Pornhub network.
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Good luck suing on this outside of the USA or EU venues. Quote:
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I find this part more interesting then the xvideos announcement
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Well, looks like I am going to have to legally challenge Xvideos on this because I have just been told that one of my up loaders clicked on accept for the MassageRooms.com account earlier today, and he didn't even bother to read what was written. So, according to xvideos announcement, they now have full ownership of all videos ever uploaded to that account, for ever.
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I have never loaded one minute of video to those cocksucking parasites and I am glad I didn't.
Just like everyone rushed to Facebook only to have them be fuck over again and again as FB grew so has this trash tube. I never joined that FB bullshit site either! |
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neftflix originals of porn?)
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not sure what is the problem, why would you ever want to upload whole video to any pirate tube? just upload 3mins clips and no problem, they can use the three mins vids as they wish. and if you upload full lenght videos to any tube, and you are owner, and you are feeding this pirate sites with your vids for traffic, just fuck off, seriously, fuck off feeding those lurkers and surfers with even more free full stuff ...
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oh, and before, it is nothing personal against jt or ruseful, just thinking loud why would ever someone wants to feed surfers with more free porn ... ehh ...
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it's amazong that nobody ever pirated the website to delete the content...
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![]() But its not full length videos we upload. All 10-14 min tube videos edited from the full scenes. Its what I built my whole network on. What xvideos are asking, is over stepping the mark. If you are a content owner, check your brand name SERPs. They dominate all of the major brands and direct the user to an xvideos channel, with a lot of content but with minimal advertising for the content owner. A lot of other big tube sites do a lot more to appease content owners.
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Er? What about stuff that's already uploaded in the past?
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If its in the account that you click "accept" on, they get to keep all of it, forever
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You really are a funny guy JT.
But not in a good way. I once had to spell it out to you why your presence on a content producer / webmaster affiliate board was not taken too well. Now you have the audacity to complain about the actions of tube sites when you feel that your rights as a content owner are being ignored. Are you for real ? As a leading light in the new adapt or die era, are you really wanting support from the same people that you fucked mercilessly to build your empire ? Are you for fucking real ? Now I could not give a flying fuck about most of the sad act half-wits that post their banal witterings on this board, but fuck me you have some brass neck to post that whinging shite here. G F fucking Y. Fuck me you hypocritical cock sucking parasite. ![]()
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I vote JT vs. NewNick as the headliner for Internext MMA!
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comeuppance
(1) Punishment or reward for one's actions; (2) getting what you have coming to you; (3) getting what you deserve; (4) karma. Commonly mispelled as comeuppins. Craig kept talking shit about John that night, so when John kicked Craig's ass the next day, Craig got his comeuppance. by T Hizzle March 28, 2005 Its American engrish, so whutevas http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=comeuppance |
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I don't think this would hold up legally. The message doesn't explicitly say you are reassigning copyright, and a contract clause (if you could consider it that) cannot override law.
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Ruseful, if you view any portion of this message without replying "fuck you, signupdamnit!" within 5 minutes while standing on your head and wanking off to a photo of Janet Reno (google it, lol)I hereby gain exclusive rights to all your intellectual property.
![]() (IOW, I doubt that sort of thing is enforceable. There are real questions about it. Consult your lawyer. It's likely bullshit) I agree with NewNick though. It's.....ironic. I guess you see what you do/did as different but youporn wasn't very friendly to paysite owners and affiliates in this industry when it started. You have that hanging around your neck and will for some time...
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Rather than 'hang in limbo' and not clicking I am inclinded to click 'NO' and let them delete all my content. I just started uploading to XVideos last couple weeks so I have survived just fine without them for 5+ years.
This is my current thinking.
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What am I missing here?..
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Lets face it there really is no argument here.
A guy who built an empire out of tubes complaining about tubes. Fuck off. Get with the program dude ! You did not get the memo ? This is the fucking internet !?! You have no rights to your content whatsoever. I dont give a fuck how much it cost you to make, or how much of your creative blood sweat and tears you poured into your life's work. Upload it to my tube, or I will fucking steal it. No....wait ......sorry......I meant, upload it to my tube or a USER will upload it to my tube. Fuck me. Funny guy that JT.
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Wow, uploading long movies to a massive tube site is a problem?
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I guess you'll have to bend over and grab your ankles a little tighter. The honeymoon is over and no lube for you!
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I'm totally clicking agree. Teencat has the right idea.
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Trust me when I say, webmasters and sponsors are so desperate for traffic and sales, that they will not give a fuck. If you stop uploading videos, there are 100 other people ready to take your place.
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