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Old 04-18-2012, 08:37 AM   #1
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Google analytics alternatives?

What analytics software/service do you use?

Until now we were using google analytics, but managing 1500 domains in a non automated way makes it a bit crazy. Specially when you cannot access to the database and make a custom query.

So, what analytics software are you using?

I have been looking at Piwik and Open Web Analytics. Both look ok, but none of them convices me completely.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:00 AM   #3
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I have yet to find something that really works for the adult industry.. Have about the same number of domains, and the same problem here as well. Hope somebody has found a solution.
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Piwik is good but it's also resource hungry,i recommended following tracker:
http://www.crawltrack.net/
They maybe dont have some advanced features like piwik but they did amazing thing to reduce unnecessary space and cpu load-instead fully writing user agent of writing for each ip like this:Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/11.0
they simply added number which represent browser group,so in mysql table it will be recorded as 1 instead full user agent info.
Plus on piwik you need to make table export if you want to see full browser statistic,on CT all data is available immediately.
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If you must have REAL bounce rate stats, clicky.

If not, then piwik is awesome (and my favorite).
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:45 AM   #10
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piwik for pure privacy of your stats (but dedicate a box to it for anything with heavy traffic)

shinystat for everything else and excellent expandability.
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Piwik is good but it's also resource hungry,i recommended following tracker:

They maybe dont have some advanced features like piwik but they did amazing thing to reduce unnecessary space and cpu load-instead fully writing user agent of writing for each ip like this:Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/11.0
they simply added number which represent browser group,so in mysql table it will be recorded as 1 instead full user agent info.
Plus on piwik you need to make table export if you want to see full browser statistic,on CT all data is available immediately.
That's basic database normalization. are you saying piwik isnt doing this?..wow..
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:43 PM   #12
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That's basic database normalization. are you saying piwik isnt doing this?..wow..
Well,so far i never seen that process on any script,yet it is so simple to do it.
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Anyone who runs Analytics on their sites who is NOT making at least $100 a day from Adsense (and that is a REAL conservatve amount) is a fucking idiot.

Google analytics is designed to provide Google with information on whether they should actually pay your site any money for the worthless clicks you send. Actually, the whole Google sitemap, Google analytics thing is dead. Has been for a long time if you're in adult.

Why would you give Google information about your adult site when Google doesn't pay adult sites shit?

If Google ain't paying you a living wage, don't use their tools. Are you fucking stupid?

The answer is "Yes. You are fucking stupid..." BUT! No, you're just fucking stupid.

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Another fan of Piwik for privacy here.

Been using it on a dedicated for several months and no issues. Started a thread earlier on hiding your server URL in the Piwik javascript code for anyone interested: http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1065149


From the Piwik FAQ: http://piwik.org/faq/how-to/#faq_132
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By default, the Piwik Javascript code on all tracked websites contains the Piwik server URL. This is fine for most users, but someone (eg. a competitor) could run a script that would look at thousands or millions of websites and search for your Piwik server URL in the source code of these websites. This person could then find out all websites tracked in your Piwik instance.
In some cases you might want to hide this Piwik URL completely while still tracking all websites in your Piwik instance. It is possible to do by modifying your Piwik Javascript code, and point it to a "proxy piwik.php script" instead of your Piwik server URL. This piwik.php script has to be uploaded on each of the websites tracked, and will automatically "forward" all requests to your secret Piwik server.
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Another fan of Piwik for privacy here.

Been using it on a dedicated for several months and no issues. Started a thread earlier on hiding your server URL in the Piwik javascript code for anyone interested: http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1065149


From the Piwik FAQ: http://piwik.org/faq/how-to/#faq_132
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Another fan of Piwik for privacy here.

Been using it on a dedicated for several months and no issues. Started a thread earlier on hiding your server URL in the Piwik javascript code for anyone interested: http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1065149


From the Piwik FAQ: http://piwik.org/faq/how-to/#faq_132
What numbers are you pushing with piwik on a dedi? I'm running a couple of 3/k a day sites and it's a bit sluggish.
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I really never liked google analytics, tried it several times across the years and I always end removing it.
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Google analytics is designed to provide Google with information on whether they should actually pay your site any money for the worthless clicks you send. Actually, the whole Google sitemap, Google analytics thing is dead. Has been for a long time if you're in adult.

Why would you give Google information about your adult site when Google doesn't pay adult sites shit?

If Google ain't paying you a living wage, don't use their tools. Are you fucking stupid?

The answer is "Yes. You are fucking stupid..." BUT! No, you're just fucking stupid.
Even though I'm not using the same strong language you used, I completely agree that in most cases it's a (really) bad idea to use GA.
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Even though I'm not using the same strong language you used, I completely agree that in most cases it's a (really) bad idea to use GA.
completely agree with both of you.

It will only hurt to use analytics... And no, don't ask me why.

If someone does not believe us, well, let him try it out for his own.
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completely agree with both of you.

It will only hurt to use analytics... And no, don't ask me why.

If someone does not believe us, well, let him try it out for his own.
I was inclined believe them, but now I'm not so sure because you're usually wrong about everything. Period.
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Not sure if I should switch to ShinyStats, StatsCounter or GetClicky.

I have around 500 sites I need to track and I need to see global stats for all sites and not just individual stats. Does all of the above allow that? Does any of them allow me to just add one code snibbet to all sites (that would save me a day of search and replace lol) or do I have to add each site manually?

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Not sure if I should switch to ShinyStats, StatsCounter or GetClicky.

I have around 500 sites I need to track and I need to see global stats for all sites and not just individual stats. Does all of the above allow that? Does any of them allow me to just add one code snibbet to all sites (that would save me a day of search and replace lol) or do I have to add each site manually?

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Another fan of Piwik for privacy here.

Been using it on a dedicated for several months and no issues. Started a thread earlier on hiding your server URL in the Piwik javascript code for anyone interested: http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1065149


From the Piwik FAQ: http://piwik.org/faq/how-to/#faq_132
That it great!!

It addresses the one issue I had with Piwik.
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I talked with my host about piwik and they said a few people use it on the servers but even set up right, it would not be for me as I have high traffic sites and it would slow my servers. Which I can not have.

So still looking. Thanks for the other sites listed.
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I talked with my host about piwik and they said a few people use it on the servers but even set up right, it would not be for me as I have high traffic sites and it would slow my servers. Which I can not have.

So still looking. Thanks for the other sites listed.
I am sure crawltrack wont slowdown servers.
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Does this show the keywords from Search? I dont see that.
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Does this show the keywords from Search? I dont see that.

I think so.
When you go to Search Engines, it will show you keywords list!
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When you go to Search Engines, it will show you keywords list!
I was looking at the demo they have but dont see keywords listed..

I will try asking on their forum.

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Old 05-22-2012, 05:02 AM   #48
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Doesn't GA have an API that you could use to export the data to your own DB?
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Old 05-22-2012, 05:50 AM   #49
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Old 05-24-2012, 04:13 AM   #50
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Thank you for the input.

Will start testing piwik under some decent load and then see how it performs. Will update this thread with the results.
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