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  • Vendot
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    • May 2002
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    #1

    Why So Many People Get Cancer?

    It just seems lately people just dropping like flies. What exactly is going on?

    Any suspicions? A lot of people think acrylamide and aspartame and various food preservatives may be causing cancer.... recent research suggests that red meat and in particular processed meat like sausages and bacon and peperoni is cancer causing.

    Whats your view?

    Somethings seem to reduce cancer risk.... a lot of antioxidants, vitamin C, turmeric, green tea. Aspirin is also said to reduce risk but you cant usually take even a low dose except very seldom.
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  • lucas131
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    #2
    you know, taking vitamins, doing sport and so may help, but you can live healthy life and you can get cancer and homeless who is drunk every day will live long life with no cancer. like you see there is nothing you can do, not even money can still help. but there are good progresses on some kinds of cancer, not for all, but for most there are meds on the way. lets hope it will be quick

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    • PR_Glen
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      #3
      http://whfoods.com/foodstoc.php

      most of these foods have cancer fighting properties.. you have more of them in your diet and your %'s go down, simple as that.


      also aspartame is one of the most tested food additives in history, if it was causing cancer than 80% of north america would have it, and they don't. does that mean you should drink 15 diet pepsi's a day? No, it isn't healthy, but doesn't mean it causes cancer either.

      On top of that cancer rates have been falling steadily since the 1990's so no, it isn't happening to more people now, you are just noticing it more.
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      • DWB
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        • Jul 2003
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        #4
        Bisphenol A is another doozie that is in almost everything.

        No doubt about it, we're being killed by chemicals. Not surprising. But what is it that maybe red meat and some other meats can cause cancer. Didn't see that coming.

        Smokers are an obvious cancer risk.

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        • MarkDeus
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          #5
          Originally posted by PR_Glen
          [url] does that mean you should drink 15 diet pepsi's a day? No, it isn't healthy, but doesn't mean it causes cancer either.


          ewww diet pepsi. I think it's actually worse than normal pepsi
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          • newB
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            #6
            Everybody has genes for cancer in every cell of their body - these are called 'oncogenes.' For most of us, the start codon - a specific three sequence base pair, is missing. Point mutations (single base pair mutations) normally occur at a very low frequency, and are further reduced by the like of antioxidants. Inversely, carcinogens are substances we know to cause point mutations to occur more frequently, as does stress. Now if upstream from an oncogene you already have two of the three base pairs to be a start codon and a point mutation causes the third base pair to turn the sequence into a start codon you now have cancer. Each time that cell divides, unless there just happens to be a mutation in each of the daughter cells oncogene start codons (very unlikely), each daughter cell will likewise have an active gene for cancer.

            As mentioned above, stress can lead to a higher incidence of point mutations. I think it is fairly safe to say these days, with the global economy and various conflicts going on, are the most stressful we've seen in recent history.
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            • onwebcam
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              #7
              All the chemicals. My dad is a cancer survivor only to be recently diagnosed with a deadly/rare form of leukemia said to be due to prior treatments. It doesn't help that he only uses aspartame drink mixes.. See below..

              Originally posted by PR_Glen

              also aspartame is one of the most tested food additives in history, if it was causing cancer than 80% of north america would have it, and they don't. does that mean you should drink 15 diet pepsi's a day? No, it isn't healthy, but doesn't mean it causes cancer either.
              Study Links Aspartame To Cancer

              (WebMD) A study of rats links low doses of aspartame -- the sweetener in NutraSweet, Equal, and thousands of consumer products -- to leukemia and lymphoma.

              http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in712605.shtml


              Originally posted by PR_Glen
              Thanks for the link I'll have to send to my dad. Trying to get him on some healthy diets.
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              • Overload
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                #8
                its our food ... i saw a docu about india (province of huissa if my memo serves me well) where they asked ppl in a lil village: "do you know what cancer is?" most shook their heads but one oldie said "oh, that is a desease, not?" - "do you know someone who has or had cancer?" - the old man said "no" ... that dood looked like 103 and didnt know anyone who had cancer ... made me kinda wonder ...

                enjoy your "cheap" meat and monsanto soy and wheat
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                • PR_Glen
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by onwebcam
                  All the chemicals. My dad is a cancer survivor only to be recently diagnosed with a deadly/rare form of leukemia said to be due to prior treatments. It doesn't help that he only uses aspartame drink mixes.. See below..



                  Study Links Aspartame To Cancer

                  (WebMD) A study of rats links low doses of aspartame -- the sweetener in NutraSweet, Equal, and thousands of consumer products -- to leukemia and lymphoma.

                  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in712605.shtml
                  This is an important message in that article that most people over look.

                  "But food industry officials point out that many other studies have found no link between aspartame and cancer."

                  Originally posted by onwebcam
                  Thanks for the link I'll have to send to my dad. Trying to get him on some healthy diets.
                  I post this in every thread regarding preventative measures and healing nutrition with hopes that it gets to more people who need it so I'm glad you will pass it on to others who will benefit ;)

                  Originally posted by Overload
                  its our food ... i saw a docu about india (province of huissa if my memo serves me well) where they asked ppl in a lil village: "do you know what cancer is?" most shook their heads but one oldie said "oh, that is a desease, not?" - "do you know someone who has or had cancer?" - the old man said "no" ... that dood looked like 103 and didnt know anyone who had cancer ... made me kinda wonder ...

                  enjoy your "cheap" meat and monsanto soy and wheat
                  it's not so much what's in the food as it is how much people are consuming of it, generally people in starving countries have lower cancer risks.
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                  • ottopottomouse
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                    #10
                    easier to detect than ever before.
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                    • Operator
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                      #11
                      sedentary radioactivity poisoning!!!
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                      • onwebcam
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by PR_Glen
                        "But food industry officials point out that many other studies have found no link between aspartame and cancer."
                        The same food industry officials using and profiting from the poison?



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                        • Barefootsies
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                          #13
                          Look at what is fed to the animals we eat, and there is part of the problem.

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                          • SuckOnThis
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                            #14
                            When more than 50% of the population smoked back in the 50's only 1 in 12 got cancer, now less than a third smoke yet 1 in 2 will get cancer.

                            Pesticides, herbicides, hormones in our food contribute along with stress and most likely chemicals from pharmaceutical drugs.

                            Fruits and vegetables don't have the same nutrients and cancer fighting agents they used to due to overuse of farmlands without replenishing the minerals.

                            This is all great news for the health industry who make over $300,000 for every person diagnosed and its why things continue as business as usual.

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                            • InfoGuy
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                              #15
                              The problem is not just the foods that we eat, but also how food is packaged and cooked. A dangerous chemical PFOA is widely used in non-stick cookware, food packaging, apparel, carpet, upholstery, cleaners and other products.

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                              • Operator
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                                #16
                                They want you to die slow for having to had to look at you.
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                                • pornmasta
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                                  #17
                                  more info in this thread:

                                  http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1054413

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                                  • ArsewithClass
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by ottopottomouse
                                    easier to detect than ever before.
                                    Some cancer are not so easy with so many different cancers.

                                    My mother has just had her cancer finally removed by a simple cream application. Her's were from legions & moles, a type of skin cancer caused by the sun & the natural effects of moles.

                                    It's a very scary topic, especially with cancer of the scrotum being so common

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                                    • rabbit
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                                      #19
                                      nuclear proliferation

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                                      • 2MuchMark
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                                        • Aug 2004
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                                        #20
                                        Lots of reasons.

                                        First, Humans live longer today than we have in any other point in our history. The longer we live, the more likely we are to get cancer.

                                        Next, we have polluted the planet. Coal, Oil, chemicals, radation etc have surrounded the planet. Scientists even Strontium, a bi product of atomic bomb tests in the 50's and 60's, in the teeth of cadavers who were not even alive in that era. Everyone single one of us has a little bit of cold war era atomic pissing contest in their bodies.

                                        After that, we eat it. Cancer causing chemicals is in all of our food, even in organic food (not as safe as you think). Water bottles, cellphones, old TV's, the fumes from that new rug. And of course there's cigarettes and booze.

                                        / sigh.

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                                        • mromro
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                                          #21
                                          Watch this video and it will explain it all. Someone should make an updated one if they havn't already.

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                                          • cooldude7
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                                            #22
                                            because they eat pussies ?

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                                            • VikingMan
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                                              #23
                                              sitting on your ass is a huge cause of cancer in addition to the smoking, eating shit food, stress, air pollution, water pollution etc

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                                              • cashcows
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                                                #24
                                                First off the mind body connection is most important. Don't focus on not getting it focus on being healthy and don't worry.

                                                Second. You need to alkalize your body, cut out preservatives, refined sugar and all artificial sweeteners. Meat does not cause cancer, but many meats have toxic chemicals in them.

                                                Next Google "Budwig Diet" a diet by a German scientist that discovered a lack of omega oils was found in most cancer patients. And she discovered that when you combine flax seed oil with Quark or organic cottage cheese it make the surfer containing protein in it make the oil water soluble and assimilates into the body better. She cured many people but when American Doctors saw what she was doing then wanted no part of it because it could not be patented or turned into a high cost treatment.

                                                Also visit PHkillscancer.com a guy that cured is own cancer by alkalizing his body with Baking Soda. This is not new even doctors have proven that this has benefits but for some reason the AMA keeps taking their licenses.

                                                Also visit phoenixtears.ca a man that discovered High Concentrations of THC Hemp oil cures cancer of course the put him in jail.

                                                Also lack of iodine in the diet due to the fact that bromine has replaced it in breads and the bromine displaces the iodine has also been links to cancer. I take lugol's iodine almost daily.

                                                There is also the theory that viruses and mold are the causes of cancer and they stems from the body not being able to rid it self of them due to too many Heavy Metals in the body. Look of Zeolite, Chlorella, Cilantro, for heavy metal detox. Also adding coconut oil to your diet helps kill of both viruses and model and some people claime cured their cancers.

                                                Good diet, no refined sugars, no artificial sweeteners and a fairly alkaline diet, exercise and not stressing are all good prevention for cancer. But I tell all of this every time to people that have cancer. Most people don't want to believe and want to trust their doctor and die. Most people only trust the Medical and Scientific Scams that are sold to them inspite of their poor success rates. Some people also claim any thing that works is a placebo well who cares if the person is health!

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                                                And the B.S. about oral sex causing cancer is B.S. people have been having oral sex for as long as there have been people. If you body is able to rid it's self of viruses HPV and such will naturally be eliminated. Lecithin 2500mg taken daily puts Herpies 1 and maybe 2 as well as other viruses in remission. Also Sovereign colloidal Silver has also been known to help kill viruses. ALL VIRUSES CAN BE KILLED! There is also electrical treatments such as the ultimate Zapper http://zap.intergate.ca/ that can kill viruses and pathogens in the body. I use zappers anytime I get a pimple and it's gone in 24 hours I have also used it on spider bites. But they can be used to kill pathogens in the blood also.

                                                I hope this helps. I don't have the time to debate but just wanted to leave some info.

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                                                • pornmasta
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                                                  #25
                                                  viruses are not really alive, they are just a packet of dna or rna informations

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                                                  • Operator
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                                                    #26
                                                    cashcows you are spot on except for the fact that most people DO trust their doctors and die for that reason.
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                                                    • pornmasta
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Operator
                                                      Chemotherapy is mustard gas...
                                                      not an error
                                                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemotherapy#History
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                                                      • Operator
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                                                        #28
                                                        Indeed it is fact, the error is the understanding and approach.
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                                                        • Frank21
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                                                          #29
                                                          vaccines.
                                                          GMO.
                                                          lack of vitamins and minnerals.
                                                          just plain stupid living styles drink and smoke as much as you can cause its fun.
                                                          Every food source is contaminated with chemicals.

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                                                          • 2012
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                                                            • Jul 2006
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                                                            #30
                                                            I think it's because of all the "care" and what not Jesus gives us ?

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                                                            • longdongsilver
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                                                              #31
                                                              http://cancertutor.com/

                                                              found this site, some very interesting articles there.

                                                              The diets seems to make sense.

                                                              How about this page though?? It says the guy that first started using this tech against cancer cells, had 100% cure rate before they arrested him and took away his machine??

                                                              http://cancertutor.com/Cancer03/FreqGenerators.html

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                                                              • k0nr4d
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                                                                #32
                                                                I think people have always been getting cancer - dating back to medieval times and long before that. We just didn't know what it was then
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                                                                • CaptainHowdy
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  It is because of the relentless production of positivity ...

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                                                                  • Paul Markham
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by newB
                                                                    Everybody has genes for cancer in every cell of their body - these are called 'oncogenes.' For most of us, the start codon - a specific three sequence base pair, is missing. Point mutations (single base pair mutations) normally occur at a very low frequency, and are further reduced by the like of antioxidants. Inversely, carcinogens are substances we know to cause point mutations to occur more frequently, as does stress. Now if upstream from an oncogene you already have two of the three base pairs to be a start codon and a point mutation causes the third base pair to turn the sequence into a start codon you now have cancer. Each time that cell divides, unless there just happens to be a mutation in each of the daughter cells oncogene start codons (very unlikely), each daughter cell will likewise have an active gene for cancer.

                                                                    As mentioned above, stress can lead to a higher incidence of point mutations. I think it is fairly safe to say these days, with the global economy and various conflicts going on, are the most stressful we've seen in recent history.
                                                                    My cancer specialist told me the same.

                                                                    In most people the immune system destroy the cancer cells. It takes something to kick off the cancer to a level where the bodies defenses can't kill the cancer. Then it's a sticky road downhill until you get it diagnosed. It's also hereditary.

                                                                    Modern food, life styles and environment bear a lot of blame as well.



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                                                                    • brentbacardi
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                                                                      #35
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                                                                      • newB
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                        It's also hereditary.
                                                                        Yes, that's because we inherit those start codons along with the rest of our DNA from our parents.

                                                                        Without getting too technical (too late), lets say the start codon has to be ABC, where each base pair can be A B C or D. If one of your parents had a start codon which you inherited of ABD you both are just one base pair mutation from getting cancer. Remember, the oncogenes and start codons are in EVERY CELL OF YOUR BODY so while the incidence of point mutations is statistically very low, they occur fairly regularly when you consider the total length of your DNA molecules, how many cells are in your body, and the rate of cell division. While a point mutation in one cell may occur in that start codon and turn it to BBD - thus further away from being an active oncogene, that is just one cell. The rest of the cells in your body will still contain the ABD start codon and thus remain at increased risk of being changed for the worse.

                                                                        Above I see a lot of mention of diets and supplements such as Flaxseed oil - usually those involve antioxidants. Antioxidants remove free radicals, which cause an increased incidence of point mutations. While supplements are an option, a well balanced diet is preferable as mega-doses from vitamins and minerals can have their own complications.

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                                                                        • BlackCrayon
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Overload
                                                                          its our food ... i saw a docu about india (province of huissa if my memo serves me well) where they asked ppl in a lil village: "do you know what cancer is?" most shook their heads but one oldie said "oh, that is a desease, not?" - "do you know someone who has or had cancer?" - the old man said "no" ... that dood looked like 103 and didnt know anyone who had cancer ... made me kinda wonder ...

                                                                          enjoy your "cheap" meat and monsanto soy and wheat
                                                                          i don't think that is an accurate look at it. many of those people probably go undiagnosed and the life expectancy isn't the same despite some of the living very long, many die young as well.
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                                                                          • blonda80
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            i hate cancer so much...
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