SallyRand

Cops cannot even shoot back when being fired upon without fear of prosecution!

Jesus, the guy was shooting out of his window in a heavily populated area, the cops blew him away and serious consideration was given to prosecuting the cops! WTF?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11279932

"Police marksmen await inquest anonymity decision

Mark Saunders Mark Saunders was shot dead in a siege in May 2008

Seven police marksmen who shot and killed a 32-year-old barrister will hear later if they will remain anonymous in an inquest into his death in a siege at his London home.

Family law specialist Mark Saunders was hit at least five times to end the five-hour siege in May 2008.

Prosecutors have already ruled there was insufficient evidence to charge any of the men who fired 11 bullets.

The lawyer's family have criticised police conduct during the incident.

They maintained Saunders, who had been drinking heavily before he started firing from a window of his Chelsea home, posed no real risk to the public and should have been taken alive.

But the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) found no "realistic prospect" of proving beyond reasonable doubt that the armed officers did not act in self defence.

The CPS also considered charges of gross negligence and misconduct, and health and safety charges against those in charge of the operation.

Former Met commander Ali Dizaei who is serving a four year jail term for perverting the course of justice in an unrelated case, was in overall charge of the operation.

It is thought the hearing will examine his command of the siege and that he will be called on to give evidence.

A preliminary hearing will take place later but the full inquest is due to resume at Westminster Coroner's Court on 20 September."

Sure'n the fuck glad I don't live there! I mean that the cops cannot even protect the public without fear of going to jail for having exercised their lawful duty!

Fuck!

Sally.

urbanpimp

America is not any better.
Remember Ignacio Ramos and Jose Campion ?

SallyRand

No shit!

Sally.

helterskelter808

The officers are already back at work, and there's an inquest because he was killed in a hail of police bullets, which his family say could have been avoided.

What happens where you live? The police kill a citizen and that's the end of it?

ottopottomouse

What happened to abstaining from political threads?

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Paul Markham

Why didn't you read the article properly?

It seems no charges will be laid.

In the UK if the police kill a man it automatically goes to the unit that investigated police corruption and law breaking. This case in at the inquest stage and the coroner will decide if the police officers can remain anonymous in an inquest into Mark Saunders death. No mention of charges.

Do you want to live in a country with less stringent rules on police and authorities?

Kent State Shootings I'm sure more recent cases are easy to find.

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GatorB

you're a dumb cunt. Try learning about shit. Anytime time the cops kill someone there is always an investigation even in the US. it doesn't mean the cops did anything wrong and it doesn't mean they can't shoot back or defend themselves. It's just part of the process. quit trying to make somethingout of nothing just because you feel like hating today.

by the way the average UK citizen is about 200 times LESS likely to be killed by a gun than a US citizen.

DamianJ

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J. Falcon

I wouldn't be a cop anywhere.

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Vendzilla

I couldn't be a cop, first time I went to a domestic disturbance and some kid got beat up by a drunk dad, I'd be on my way to prison

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fatfoo

Usually cops will shoot at a gun at person who shoots a gun in their eyesight.

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james_clickmemedia

The word "cop" in the title of this thread tells me all I need to know about the person who posted this article!

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SallyRand

Oh, you are totally and completely full of shit! My Dad was a cop, refers to himself as an "Ex-cop" and the term "cop" is in no fucking way a perjorative! He even used to run a "cop bar"!

Sally.

SallyRand

No and clearly no, I am NOT making a mountain out of a molehill!

The prosecutors in this case were clearly LOOKING for reasons to pillory the Goodly Constables for having smoked the guy! with the dreaded FIREARM!

The UK has virtually outlawed most firearms, air rifles, BB guns and yes, POCKET KNIVES!

Criminals now convert BB ir guns to REAL firearms and the population at large is largely defensess againt the thugs!

This as the rate of firearms violence by criminals against an unarmed and essentially defensless population increases!:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/no...shootings-rise

"Shooting incidents in London have almost doubled compared with the same period last year, prompting grave concerns that gun crime in some areas is out of control.

Scotland Yard has admitted a 17% rise in overall firearms offences, although the Metropolitan police chief, Sir Paul Stephenson, has put that down to a blip.

Stephenson last week dropped a plan to put routine armed patrols on the streets, saying that although gun crime had risen it was still lower than two years ago and he was not willing to sanction such a dramatic departure from the principle of unarmed policing. However, the true scale of the increases is contained in figures being presented on Thursday to the Metropolitan police authority.

They reveal that the number of actual shootings has almost doubled from 123 to 236 in the last six months compared with the same period last year, a rise of 91.8%. Serious firearms offences have risen by 47% across the capital.

Those discharging the firearms and those being shot at are young teenagers involved in "respect shootings" to settle petty disputes with little thought of the consequences, say police and community leaders. More and more such shootings involve a gunshot to the leg, echoing the punishment attacks meted out in Northern Ireland. Detectives say that pointing a gun at the shin or knee is a deliberate tactic to avoid any chance the victim will die, risking a 30-year mandatory sentence.

Those working at local level in the capital say the number of incidents reported is only a fraction of what is taking place.

"Gun crime has never gone away," said the Rev Les Isaac, who works as a street pastor in south London. "Firearms are being discharged more or less on a daily basis in some parts of London."

He added: "Those using the guns have got younger. These children are unpredictable, they have access to guns and they are willing to use them."

Instead of relatively expensive guns from eastern Europe, the past weapon of choice, the younger perpetrators are using cheaper shotguns and converted handguns as they are easier to procure and ammunition is more readily available.

The figures contrast with those nationally, where gun crime is still falling in known hotspots. On Merseyside, gun crime is down by 27%; nationally, firearms offences have fallen by 5%.

Pastor Nims Obunge, a member of the independent advisory panel that works with Trident ? the Met unit that investigates gang shootings ? said the motives of the perpetrators had changed.

"We are not just dealing with drug turf wars here. We are talking about young teenagers who no longer use their fists to settle disputes. They say, 'I can get access to a gun, why would I not use it?'"

Joanne McCartney, Labour spokeswoman on policing on the London Assembly, said: "It is extremely concerning and what I'd like to see is some more information on the age of the young people involved. We need to ask whether there has to be a shift in resources and whether the focus which was on knife crime has now to be moved to gun crime."

Part of the increase in firearms offences in north London was caused by a Turkish gang war which led to three fatal shootings as two groups fought for supremacy. But in other areas the explosion of firearms incidents is harder to explain, or to tackle.

"Where you once had a set of gangs in a particular area which you could define, now we are seeing these broken down into further divisions with several smaller groups forming in particular housing estates all with their own rivalries," said Isaac.

Cressida Dick, assistant commissioner specialist crime, admits the figures are disturbing. "The increase in firearms discharges has continued to be a matter of grave concern," she writes in her report to the MPA committee."

You may rest assured that you are indeed safe from myself and my family as no one in my family has intentionally shot a Brit since 1814!

Sally.



Sally.

zeuse

You're a dick

Just sayin!

ottopottomouse

A lot of that article is about the shitty housing estates there are rather than England as a whole.

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life

that's just cuz chavs use knives, lol