Damn!!! Cops take an injured man seeking help and burn him to death! - GoFuckYourself.com

sortie · 06-13-2010, 07:16 AM

Damn....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100611/...9mZmljZXJzY2hh

Cliff Notes :

NEW ORLEANS ? Five current or former New Orleans police officers were charged Friday in the shooting death and burning of a New Orleans man during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

According to earlier published reports, police were using a school as a temporary headquarters on Sept. 2, 2005, when a group of men drove up looking for help for 31-year-old Henry Glover, who had been shot.

One of the men reportedly later told investigators that Glover was still in the back seat when a police officer drove off with his car. Glover's burned remains later were recovered from the charred car when it turned up on a levee near a police station.

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 06-13-2010, 11:33 AM

Why is the guy being charged with civil rights violations and unlawfully using a firearm rather than murder? Anyone know?

CyberHustler · 06-13-2010, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

Why is the guy being charged with civil rights violations and unlawfully using a firearm rather than murder? Anyone know?

Because he's a cop...

ASW · 06-13-2010, 11:54 AM

this is what im talkin about police get dat bage an think they can do anything let a police officer get big with me an see if i dont get buck back FUCK all of them

sortie · 06-13-2010, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

Why is the guy being charged with civil rights violations and unlawfully using a firearm rather than murder? Anyone know?

Because when in the capacity of a cop, civil rights must be given.

Citizens have the civil right to call on police for assistance, if the police wrongfully
deny assistance then they have violated your civil rights.

Shooting you dead when you don't resist arrest is a violation of your civil
right to a fair trial.

sortie · 06-13-2010, 12:45 PM

Add to above post.

Civil rights violations make the crime a federal offense which means that the
cop can be prosecuted in federal court and thus avoid a local court that may
favor the cop over the victim.

Jon Oso · 06-13-2010, 03:26 PM

So basically he will get a more severe punishment from what appears to be a "lesser" offense?

punkpred · 06-13-2010, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NanoBot

Because he's a cop...

Because its federal, murder in the US is a state crime.

Marcus Aurelius · 06-13-2010, 03:32 PM

where does it say that it were the cops who burned him?

sortie · 06-13-2010, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Oso

So basically he will get a more severe punishment from what appears to be a "lesser" offense?

Well, not exactly.

If this was not a murder case then yes it would be more severe without a doubt.

The move is basically done to insure that the case is not swept under the
rug by the local jurisdiction.

If the cops are convicted of murder by the local system then the civil rights
case will be dropped most likely.

What you typically see in a civil rights charge is that the federal government
has decided to act because it appears that the local system is not going to
make it happen.

That's a "good o'l boy network" down there. The feds got tired of the good ol boys
not prosecuting Ku Klux Klan murders during the 1960's. So the feds would charge
the klan with violating a persons civil rights by depriving them of life and therefore
extract some justice from the case.

The most well known example of the feds doing this would be the Rodney King case.
After the state of California failed to convict the cops for the King beating the feds
charged the cops with civil rights violations and won a conviction.

The Rodney King trial was held in Simi Valley California which is known to be a
"bed room community" for Los Angeles police officers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simi_Valley,_California

Quote:

The racial makeup of the city is 75.0% White, 1.3% Black or African American

Talk about a stacked deck!!!!

So when you hear "Civil Right Charges have been filed" in a lot of cases that simply means
the federal government does not believe the local government will act in good faith to
prosecute the crime.

sortie · 06-13-2010, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

where does it say that it were the cops who burned him?

The fact that they were charged with burning him says that.

mattz · 06-13-2010, 04:03 PM

is their cliff notes for the cliff notes?

Does it say how they got caught?

Jon Oso · 06-13-2010, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie

Well, not exactly.

If this was not a murder case then yes it would be more severe without a doubt.

The move is basically done to insure that the case is not swept under the
rug by the local jurisdiction.

If the cops are convicted of murder by the local system then the civil rights
case will be dropped most likely.

What you typically see in a civil rights charge is that the federal government
has decided to act because it appears that the local system is not going to
make it happen.

That's a "good o'l boy network" down there. The feds got tired of the good ol boys
not prosecuting Ku Klux Klan murders during the 1960's. So the feds would charge
the klan with violating a persons civil rights by depriving them of life and therefore
extract some justice from the case.

The most well known example of the feds doing this would be the Rodney King case.
After the state of California failed to convict the cops for the King beating the feds
charged the cops with civil rights violations and won a conviction.

The Rodney King trial was held in Simi Valley California which is known to be a
"bed room community" for Los Angeles police officers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simi_Valley,_California

Talk about a stacked deck!!!!

So when you hear "Civil Right Charges have been filed" in a lot of cases that simply means
the federal government does not believe the local government will act in good faith to
prosecute the crime.

That makes sense. So they're going to charge him Federally with the easier case and locally with the harder case to convict then just go with whatever sticks. Probably the right way to do it in order to ensure a conviction.

Cyber Fucker · 06-13-2010, 04:11 PM

police = violent pigs and murders (not all but most)

sortie · 06-13-2010, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Oso

That makes sense. So they're going to charge him Federally with the easier case and locally with the harder case to convict then just go with whatever sticks. Probably the right way to do it in order to ensure a conviction.

Yes.

It's all about strategy with these charges.

AdPatron · 06-13-2010, 04:36 PM

I think I may order a pizza tonight.

sortie · 06-13-2010, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

I think I may order a pizza tonight.

Not if reading a menu is required.

AdPatron · 06-13-2010, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie

Not if reading a menu is required.

Too late, I already ordered.

EliteWebmaster · 06-13-2010, 08:05 PM

cops = injustice

When have I heard that before, oh wait, almost every other day. I'm desensitized to cops and brutality from years of hearing about it, seeing it on tv, and so forth.

I get pulled over in my porsche almost daily just because I have a custom license plate, nice wheels, body kit, and my windows are tinted. As it those scumbags don't have better things to do with their time. They are worst than the criminals. Frankly, I honestly can't say if I would help a cop if I saw him getting brutally murdered by criminals. If you asked me this question 10 years ago, I would have said I would have got out of my car and helped the cop, but now, I would probably, drive away, laughing about it.

06-13-2010, 07:16 AM	#1
sortie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,771	Damn!!! Cops take an injured man seeking help and burn him to death! Damn.... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100611/...9mZmljZXJzY2hh Cliff Notes : NEW ORLEANS ? Five current or former New Orleans police officers were charged Friday in the shooting death and burning of a New Orleans man during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. According to earlier published reports, police were using a school as a temporary headquarters on Sept. 2, 2005, when a group of men drove up looking for help for 31-year-old Henry Glover, who had been shot. One of the men reportedly later told investigators that Glover was still in the back seat when a police officer drove off with his car. Glover's burned remains later were recovered from the charred car when it turned up on a levee near a police station. __________________

06-13-2010, 11:33 AM	#2
Ayla_SquareTurtle Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 5000 full paysite reviews and counting Posts: 3,550	Why is the guy being charged with civil rights violations and unlawfully using a firearm rather than murder? Anyone know? __________________ gone. long gone. aylasquareturtle .."a"t".. gmail dawt com

06-13-2010, 12:45 PM	#6
sortie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,771	Add to above post. Civil rights violations make the crime a federal offense which means that the cop can be prosecuted in federal court and thus avoid a local court that may favor the cop over the victim. __________________

06-13-2010, 03:26 PM	#7
Jon Oso Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cardboard Box Posts: 2,241	So basically he will get a more severe punishment from what appears to be a "lesser" offense? __________________ icq 416133583 My Blog Clips4Sale Store

06-13-2010, 04:11 PM	#14
Cyber Fucker Hmm Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On an endless road around the world for rock and roll. Posts: 12,642	police = violent pigs and murders (not all but most) __________________

06-13-2010, 11:54 AM	#4
ASW Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 259	this is what im talkin about police get dat bage an think they can do anything let a police officer get big with me an see if i dont get buck back FUCK all of them

06-13-2010, 03:32 PM	#9
Marcus Aurelius No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14,809	where does it say that it were the cops who burned him?

06-13-2010, 04:03 PM	#12
mattz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: AZ Posts: 7,697	is their cliff notes for the cliff notes? Does it say how they got caught?

06-13-2010, 04:36 PM	#16
AdPatron No commissions, no fees. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 17,706	I think I may order a pizza tonight.

06-13-2010, 08:05 PM	#19
EliteWebmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,983	cops = injustice When have I heard that before, oh wait, almost every other day. I'm desensitized to cops and brutality from years of hearing about it, seeing it on tv, and so forth. I get pulled over in my porsche almost daily just because I have a custom license plate, nice wheels, body kit, and my windows are tinted. As it those scumbags don't have better things to do with their time. They are worst than the criminals. Frankly, I honestly can't say if I would help a cop if I saw him getting brutally murdered by criminals. If you asked me this question 10 years ago, I would have said I would have got out of my car and helped the cop, but now, I would probably, drive away, laughing about it.