How do i find someones location from mobile ip address? - GoFuckYourself.com

dave90210 · 02-01-2010, 01:26 PM

If someone visits my website from a cellphone I get an ip address. I tried searching myself and it said I was in Canada which I'm not I'm in Los Angeles. Is there an accurate way to fine out someones location when they visit your site from a mobile phone?

Doctor Feelgood · 02-01-2010, 01:36 PM

no, cellphones dont have ip addresses unless you are using one as a modem dumbass.
thats why you see alot more NO REF in your trade script. and phones dont have cookies either. but i may be wrong, im not as geeky as some peeps here.

dave90210 · 02-01-2010, 01:37 PM

When I search latest visitor from a cellphone visitor it tells me there ip address so and it shows what device it came from like a Blackberry etc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood

no, cellphones dont have ip addresses unless you are using one as a modem dumbass.
thats why you see alot more NO REF in your trade script. and phones dont have cookies either. but i may be wrong, im not as geeky as some peeps here.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-01-2010, 01:42 PM

I was under the impression that cellphones or 3g devices or whatever were assigned a dynamic IP upon connection. Sort of like dialup worked. That's how my aircard works, and I can't see how that'd be any different.

I know when I traceroute my IP on the aircard it says I'm in Ontario when I'm in BC though. So whatever the situation, I really can't see you findign an accurate location based upon IP for these type of devices, at least not at the moment.

AaronM · 02-01-2010, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood

no, cellphones dont have ip addresses unless you are using one as a modem dumbass.

Right...And he's the dumbass.

Doctor Feelgood · 02-01-2010, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave90210

When I search latest visitor from a cellphone visitor it tells me there ip address so and it shows what device it came from like a Blackberry etc

oh, i thought you ment cellphones. blackberrys are not cellphones. they are smartphones. so whos the dumbass now?

AaronM · 02-01-2010, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood

oh, i thought you ment cellphones. blackberrys are not cellphones. they are smartphones. so whos the dumbass now?

I'm still casting my vote for you.

Doctor Feelgood · 02-01-2010, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

I'm still casting my vote for you.

Tom_PM · 02-01-2010, 02:32 PM

Well, an IP address is an IP address, so whatever method and whatever accuracy already exists should apply. Do you have a device? It would need to know it's own IP address, so you can test it yourself and see how close it comes.

Doctor Feelgood · 02-02-2010, 04:13 PM

so im right, right? cellphones dont have ips, and if they did we woulda ran outta ips long ago.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-02-2010, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood

so im right, right? cellphones dont have ips, and if they did we woulda ran outta ips long ago.

I don't know that you're right, but I would be curious to know myself. Personally I'd assume that upon connecting to the net you are assigned a temporary dynamic IP. Just like dialup would work. I don't really know and am just making an assumption, but thats about all it sounds like you're doing too.

I agree completely that if every mobile device was given an IP address of it's own we would have ran out of IPs long ago, but temporary assignment for the duration of the user's connection would cover that easily enough.

Does anybody actually know?

Bird · 02-02-2010, 08:03 PM

Yes, Cell phones do have IPs, But They are shared, the SIM card is what allows connection.

Hard Way:
You get GURFL GEOGRAPHIC UNIVERSAL RESOURCE LIBRARY, Match that IP within the CARRIER RANGE of IP Addresses. Then Match that IP with a list of Cell towers For that Given Range Then Triangulate from Three of those towers and get the signal strength. should pin point you within 200meters

Medium way:
Build an app for the Phone and Use the given API. NokiaWRT, iphone, Android. Any Webkit JS phone will do.

Easy:
Third, Just Use Google Gears API. Most Phones have Gears installed. Usually Built for Windows mobile ajax.

Bird · 02-02-2010, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood

so im right, right? cellphones dont have ips, and if they did we woulda ran outta ips long ago.

ipv4 & ipv6, thought ipv6 would allow 2-3 IPs per cubic meter on the whole globe.

Bird · 02-02-2010, 08:11 PM

Another thing I found this PAW Server for Google android phone and its cool you can serve html from your phone. On my windows mobile Phone I have this HPH pocket php server, So neet its like a compact PHP server.

I bet if you asked the carriers business service they would set you up with a dedicated IP. Wonder how much that costs.

alias · 02-02-2010, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bird

Yes, Cell phones do have IPs, But They are shared, the SIM card is what allows connection.

Hard Way:
You get GURFL GEOGRAPHIC UNIVERSAL RESOURCE LIBRARY, Match that IP within the CARRIER RANGE of IP Addresses. Then Match that IP with a list of Cell towers For that Given Range Then Triangulate from Three of those towers and get the signal strength. should pin point you within 200meters

Elite.

Bird · 02-02-2010, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias

Elite.

I searched around and could not find it because its discontinued. Anyways I pulled this from my DB I was setting up before google gears came out.

BTW: Like I said just use some available API like Gears or Twitter APIs, Much, Much Easier..

Code:

-- 

CREATE TABLE `geo_gurfl_data` (
  `geo_ip_range` varchar(99) NOT NULL default '0',
  `geo_country` varchar(99) NOT NULL default '0',
  `geo_carrier` varchar(99) NOT NULL default '0'
) ENGINE=INNODB DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1;

-- -- Dumping data for table `gurfl_geo_data`
-- 

INSERT INTO `geo_gurfl_data` (`geo_ip_range`, `geo_country`, `geo_carrier`) VALUES 

('213.162.64.0-213.162.67.255','AT','T-Mobile (Maxmobil)'),
('203.20.32.0-203.20.39.255','AU','Vodafone'),
('58.145.128.0-58.145.159.255','AU','Optus'),
('202.124.64.0-202.124.95.255','AU','H3G'),
('203.171.192.0-203.171.207.255','AU','H3G'),
('192.148.116.0-192.148.165.255','AU','Telstra'),
('212.39.122.0-212.39.122.255','BA','Eronet'),
('202.134.8.0-202.134.15.255','BD','AKTEL'),
('217.72.228.0-217.72.231.255','BE','BASE'),
('212.65.63.0-212.65.63.255','BE','Orange Mobistar'),
('81.169.60.0-81.169.63.255','BE','Proximus'),
('200.140.0.0-200.150.66.255','BR','Brazil Telecom'),
('200.179.66.192-200.179.66.255','BR','TIM'),
('189.0.0.0-189.0.255.255','BR','VIVO'),
('206.47.78.128-206.47.78.159','CA','Bell Mobilite'),
('212.35.32.0-212.35.47.255','CH','Sunrise Diax'),
('194.230.144.0-194.230.159.255','CH','Sunrise Diax'),
('213.55.128.0-213.55.255.255','CH','Orange'),
('138.188.0.0-138.188.255.255','CH','Swisscom'),
('200.91.0.0-200.91.31.255','CL','Telefonica CTC'),
('217.77.164.0-217.77.165.255','CZ','Vodafone oskarmobil'),
('84.57.113.0-84.61.96.255','DE','Arcor'),
('82.113.100.0-82.113.100.255','DE','O2'),
('80.187.0.0-80.187.111.255','DE','T-Mobile'),
('139.7.0.0-139.7.255.255','DE','Vodafone'),
('80.251.192.0-80.251.207.255','DK','H3G (E?'),
('194.182.251.0-194.182.251.63','DK','Tele Danmark TDC'),
('62.44.128.0-62.44.191.255','DK','Teliamobile'),
('217.71.32.0-217.71.35.12','EE','EMT'),
('213.143.32.0-213.143.43.255','ES','Amena'),
('195.55.47.0-195.55.47.63','ES','Telefonica'),
('80.27.0.0-80.27.127.255','ES','Telefonica TME'),
('62.87.92.0-62.87.92.63','ES','Vodafone'),
('62.142.0.0-62.142.7.255','FI','Saunalahti'),
('193.209.131.0-193.209.134.255','FI','Sonera'),
('62.201.128.0-62.201.129.255','FR','Bouygues Telecom'),
('213.223.200.0-213.223.200.255','FR','Cegetel'),
('195.115.116.0-195.115.119.255','FR','Cegetel'),
('194.206.212.0-194.206.212.7','FR','Orange France Telecom'),
('193.113.235.0-193.113.235.255','GB','02'),
('193.113.200.0-193.113.200.255','GB','O2'),
('89.192.0.0 - 89.193.255.255','GB','Orange'),
('213.205.192.0-213.205.223.255','GB','Orange'),
('213.205.224.0-213.205.255.255','GB','Orange'),
('193.35.128.0-193.35.143.255','GB','Orange'),
('149.254.0.0-149.254.255.255','GB','T-Mobile'),
('212.183.128.0-212.183.144.255','GB','Vodafone'),
('195.167.65.0-195.167.65.255','GR','Cosmote'),
('62.103.102.0-62.103.103.255','GR','Cosmote'),
('84.224.0.0-84.224.63.255','HU','Pannon'),
('212.51.126.0-212.51.126.255','HU','T-Mobile Westel'),
('202.93.36.0-202.93.37.255','ID','Indosat Mentari/IM3'),
('219.83.36.128-219.83.36.143','ID','Indosat XL'),
('212.129.64.0-212.129.64.255','IE','Meteor'),
('62.40.32.0-62.40.63.255','IE','O2'),
('213.233.128.0-213.233.159.255','IE','Vodafone'),
('192.118.8.0-192.118.11.255','IL','Orange via Partner Comms?'),
('203.145.128.0-203.145.128.15','IN','Bharti'),
('203.145.159.32-203.145.159.47','IN','Bharti'),
('59.145.208.0-59.145.208.255','IN','Bharti'),
('202.56.231.112-202.56.231.127','IN','Bharti'),
('220.227.211.0-220.227.211.255','IN','Reliance'),
('219.64.0.0-219.65.255.255','IN','VSNL'),
('151.80.0.0-151.80.255.255','IT','Infostrada telco?'),
('151.83.0.0-151.83.255.255','IT','Infostrada telco?'),
('213.26.0.0-213.26.255.255','IT','Interbusiness/Telecom Italia?'),
('83.224.0.0-83.225.255.255','IT','Vodafone'),
('210.169.40.0-210.169.40.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('210.196.3.192-210.196.3.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('210.196.5.192-210.196.5.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('210.230.128.0-210.230.128.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('210.230.141.192-210.230.141.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('210.234.105.32-210.234.105.39','JP','AU KDDI'),
('210.234.108.64-210.234.108.127','JP','AU KDDI)'),
('210.251.1.192-210.251.1.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('210.251.2.0-210.251.2.31','JP','AU KDDI'),
('211.5.1.0-211.5.1.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('211.5.2.128-211.5.2.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('211.5.7.0-211.5.7.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('218.222.1.0-218.222.1.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('61.117.0.0-61.117.0.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('61.117.1.0-61.117.1.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('61.117.2.0-61.117.2.63','JP','AU KDDI'),
('61.202.3.0-61.202.3.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('219.108.158.0-219.108.158.63','JP','AU KDDI'),
('219.125.148.0-219.125.148.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('222.5.63.0-222.5.63.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('222.7.56.0-222.7.56.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('222.5.62.128-222.5.62.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('222.7.57.0-222.7.57.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('59.135.38.128-59.135.38.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('219.108.157.0-219.108.157.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('219.125.151.128-219.125.151.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('219.96.0.0-219.127.255.255','JP','AU KDDI'),
('210.153.84.0-210.153.84.255','JP','DoCoMo i-mode'),
('210.136.161.0-210.136.161.255','JP','DoCoMo i-mode'), 
('210.153.86.0-210.153.86.255','JP','DoCoMo i-mode'),
('210.153.87.0-210.153.87.255','JP','DoCoMo inet'),
('203.138.180.0-203.138.180.255','JP','DoCoMo e-mail'),
('203.138.181.0-203.138.181.255','JP','DoCoMo e-mail'),
('203.138.203.0-203.138.203.255','JP','DoCoMo email'),
('202.179.204.0-202.179.204.255','JP','SoftBank'),
('202.253.96.248-202.253.96.255','JP','SoftBank'),
('210.146.7.192-210.146.7.255','JP','SoftBank'),
('210.146.60.192-210.146.60.255','JP','SoftBank'),
('210.151.9.128-210.151.9.191','JP','SoftBank'),
('210.169.130.112-210.169.130.119','JP','SoftBank'),
('210.169.130.120-210.169.130.127','JP','SoftBank'),
('210.169.176.0-210.169.176.255','JP','SoftBank'), 
('210.175.1.128-210.175.1.255','JP','SoftBank'),
('210.228.189.0-210.228.189.255','JP','SoftBank'),
('211.8.159.128-211.8.159.255','JP','SoftBank'),
('84.15.0.0-84.15.255.255','LT','Bite'),
('213.226.128.0-213.226.131.255','LT','Bite'),
('212.93.97.0-212.93.97.255','LV','LMT'),
('194.134.0.0-194.134.0.255','NL','EuroNetISP'),
('212.45.191.0-212.45.191.31','NO','Netcom'),
('130.244.196.90-130.244.196.92','NO','Tele2'),
('212.17.128.0-212.17.151.255','NO','Telenor'),
('166.179.37.130-166.179.37.130','NZ','NZ Telco under WDSPCO?'),
('202.73.192.0-202.73.207.255','NZ','Vodafone'),
('194.9.223.0-194.9.223.255','PL','Orange PTK-Centertel'),
('212.18.178.0-212.18.178.255','PT','Vodafone Telecel'),
('83.217.40.0-83.217.43.255','RU','Moscow Cellular'),
('217.8.224.0-217.8.235.255','RU','SCS'),
('217.118.84.0-217.118.87.255','RU','Vimpelcom beeoffice'),
('212.129.104.0-212.129.119.255','RU','Skylink'),
('130.244.0.0-130.244.255.255','SE','Tele2'),
('192.71.148.0-192.71.148.255','SE','Telia'),
('217.174.67.0-217.174.67.255','SE','Telenor'),
('203.124.0.0-203.124.3.255','SG','SingTel'),
('213.151.208.128-213.151.208.255','SK','Orange Globtel'),
('203.170.228.0-203.170.228.255','TH','Loxinfo telco?'),
('82.206.233.0-82.206.233.255','TG','Togocel'),
('193.41.60.0-193.41.63.255','UA','Kyivstar'),
('193.108.252.0-193.108.255.255','UG','MTN-Uganda'),
('66.209.0.0-66.209.31.255','US','Cingular'),
('68.24.0.0-68.31.255.255','US','Sprint'),
('66.94.0.0-66.94.31.255','US','T-Mobile'),
('170.206.246.0-170.206.247.255','US','Nextel'),
('166.128.0.0-166.255.255.255','US','WDSPCO ip leasin)'),
('200.40.246.0-200.40.246.63','UY','Ancel'),
('200.35.64.0-200.35.64.255','VE','Telcel'),
('196.11.240.228-196.11.245.33','ZA','MTN'),
('196.31.58.5-196.31.58.5','ZA','UUNET telco?'),
('196.207.32.253-196.207.45.254','ZA','Vodacom'),
('80.232.117.0-80.232.117.255','OperaMini','Opera');

Doctor Feelgood · 02-03-2010, 11:30 AM

ok bird the nerd, sounds like you know more than most people here and you are probably right. so my razr is a cellphone, its not a smart phone. so it gets assigned a different ip every time i check email or sports scores or access the internet?

and where would that ip show up on ATX?

Tom_PM · 02-03-2010, 11:37 AM

Every device has to know it's own IP. Thats a rule of IP. An IP is an IP, so you SHOULD be able to test it on yourself by first looking up the devices assigned IP once it is on the net. Now hit your web page. Now check your web logs for your IP. Now geo locate the ip as best you can using whatever method you can, looks like you should be able to nail it using methods described.

pstation · 02-03-2010, 11:37 AM

when you access the net on a cell phone, you're behind a firewall and going through some regional or national proxy server more often than not, so at best you might be able to determine the country or general area, but i doubt you'll get accuracy down to say the city.

02-01-2010, 01:26 PM	#1
dave90210 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,745	How do i find someones location from mobile ip address? If someone visits my website from a cellphone I get an ip address. I tried searching myself and it said I was in Canada which I'm not I'm in Los Angeles. Is there an accurate way to fine out someones location when they visit your site from a mobile phone?

02-01-2010, 01:36 PM	#2
Doctor Feelgood Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: RI Posts: 2,112	no, cellphones dont have ip addresses unless you are using one as a modem dumbass. thats why you see alot more NO REF in your trade script. and phones dont have cookies either. but i may be wrong, im not as geeky as some peeps here. __________________ SUBMIT PORN BLOGS HERE SUBMIT PORN STAR GALLERIES Partner accounts for sale ICQ 467879053 Trade Traffic Trade Hardlinks Dot Com Auction Myspace Blog Now Hiring My network is in need of clean, honest, good traders for different niches. Contact

02-01-2010, 02:32 PM	#9
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Well, an IP address is an IP address, so whatever method and whatever accuracy already exists should apply. Do you have a device? It would need to know it's own IP address, so you can test it yourself and see how close it comes. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

02-02-2010, 04:13 PM	#10
Doctor Feelgood Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: RI Posts: 2,112	so im right, right? cellphones dont have ips, and if they did we woulda ran outta ips long ago. __________________ SUBMIT PORN BLOGS HERE SUBMIT PORN STAR GALLERIES Partner accounts for sale ICQ 467879053 Trade Traffic Trade Hardlinks Dot Com Auction Myspace Blog Now Hiring My network is in need of clean, honest, good traders for different niches. Contact

02-02-2010, 08:03 PM	#12
Bird Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Stockton Posts: 4,365	Yes, Cell phones do have IPs, But They are shared, the SIM card is what allows connection. Hard Way: You get GURFL GEOGRAPHIC UNIVERSAL RESOURCE LIBRARY, Match that IP within the CARRIER RANGE of IP Addresses. Then Match that IP with a list of Cell towers For that Given Range Then Triangulate from Three of those towers and get the signal strength. should pin point you within 200meters Medium way: Build an app for the Phone and Use the given API. NokiaWRT, iphone, Android. Any Webkit JS phone will do. Easy: Third, Just Use Google Gears API. Most Phones have Gears installed. Usually Built for Windows mobile ajax. __________________ ICQ:268731675 Last edited by Bird; 02-02-2010 at 08:06 PM..

02-01-2010, 01:42 PM	#4
Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	I was under the impression that cellphones or 3g devices or whatever were assigned a dynamic IP upon connection. Sort of like dialup worked. That's how my aircard works, and I can't see how that'd be any different. I know when I traceroute my IP on the aircard it says I'm in Ontario when I'm in BC though. So whatever the situation, I really can't see you findign an accurate location based upon IP for these type of devices, at least not at the moment.

02-02-2010, 08:11 PM	#14
Bird Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Stockton Posts: 4,365	Another thing I found this PAW Server for Google android phone and its cool you can serve html from your phone. On my windows mobile Phone I have this HPH pocket php server, So neet its like a compact PHP server. I bet if you asked the carriers business service they would set you up with a dedicated IP. Wonder how much that costs. __________________ ICQ:268731675

02-03-2010, 11:30 AM	#17
Doctor Feelgood Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: RI Posts: 2,112	ok bird the nerd, sounds like you know more than most people here and you are probably right. so my razr is a cellphone, its not a smart phone. so it gets assigned a different ip every time i check email or sports scores or access the internet? and where would that ip show up on ATX? __________________ SUBMIT PORN BLOGS HERE SUBMIT PORN STAR GALLERIES Partner accounts for sale ICQ 467879053 Trade Traffic Trade Hardlinks Dot Com Auction Myspace Blog Now Hiring My network is in need of clean, honest, good traders for different niches. Contact

02-03-2010, 11:37 AM	#18
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Every device has to know it's own IP. Thats a rule of IP. An IP is an IP, so you SHOULD be able to test it on yourself by first looking up the devices assigned IP once it is on the net. Now hit your web page. Now check your web logs for your IP. Now geo locate the ip as best you can using whatever method you can, looks like you should be able to nail it using methods described. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

02-03-2010, 11:37 AM	#19
pstation Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: chicago Posts: 1,135	when you access the net on a cell phone, you're behind a firewall and going through some regional or national proxy server more often than not, so at best you might be able to determine the country or general area, but i doubt you'll get accuracy down to say the city.