Epoch starts registering - 10 days left - GoFuckYourself.com

trailboss · 10-14-2002, 06:47 PM

Just got an email from PayCom/Epoch advising me of the registraion process for the new visa regulations.

~~~~~~
Monday October 14, 2002

10 Days to Go.
Epoch begins the Visa registration process today. The online form will be available
tonight (after 8:00 PM Pacific time) at the link listed at the bottom of this email.

Before using the form, please make note of the following:

a) The registration process requires submission by only one principal from your
company. The person designated to be the principal listed with Visa should be the
same person who signed the processing agreement with Paycom. Any changes will
need to be immediately resolved with our legal department. For more information
regarding this matter, or to make any changes, please write to [email protected]
and include the words ?Contract Amendment? in the subject line. You should also
include your Master Code or company code with your correspondence.

b) In order to use the online registration form, the principal submitting the
information must know their administrative login information (Master Code). The
Master Code is not the same as your company code. If you obtained your Master
Code previously (the one used to access the new Financial Reports) you may
proceed directly to the registration form. If you do not know your Master Code,
please contact your sales representative or technical support by writing to
[email protected].

c) The new Visa regulations will provide a means to partially customize the
descriptor which appears on your customers billing statement. The billing
descriptor will read www.paycom.net*yourbillingdescriptor* call 1-800-893-8871.
The space between the asterisks the allowed customization area and you are
allowed 3-6 characters of alpha/numeric text. Your descriptor must be unique
(on the Master Code level) and must not be explicit in nature. This descriptor
will be used to brand your company appearing both on your join/payment forms
and on your customers email confirmations as well.

d) The new Visa registration form must be submitted by every Sponsored
Merchant processing transactions in the United States with every Payment
Service Provider for which you do business in the United States. You must also
claim all U.S. processors in which you conduct business with on the registration
form. To insure that all PSP?s are reporting the same data to Visa, the registration
form will be removed October 24, 2002 and multiple billing companies will work
together to insure each sponsored merchant is properly registered.

e) If your company does not have a U.S. presence and you would like
additional information about incorporation in the U.S., please send a request
for additional information to [email protected].

f) If you have questions regarding the form or about the new requirements,
please send an email to [email protected]. An FAQ regarding the new
Visa regulations is now online at https://paycom.net/visaregfaq/ .

The registration process will only take a couple of minutes and is required to
insure that your company is properly registered, and, that your processing
continues uninterrupted after November 1, 2002. The online registration form
may be found at https://www.epochsystems.com/visaregistry/ after 8:00 PM
Pacific time this evening.

--Rand at Epoch
Director of Corporate Communications
Epoch Transactions Services / Paycom.net
www.epochsystems.com

Shap · 10-14-2002, 07:35 PM

Does Epoch have a solution for webmasters living in the Bahamas? Or are they only dealing with US Companies?

Amputate Your Head · 10-14-2002, 07:39 PM

fuck that.... outlaw baby.... O-U-T-L-A-W!

trailboss · 10-14-2002, 07:54 PM

Shap do you need new glasses?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
e) If your company does not have a U.S. presence and you would like
additional information about incorporation in the U.S., please send a request
for additional information to [email protected].
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You could call them but I advise you to contact [email protected]

She knows about this and can offer a solution.

Articles / Bylaws prepared
expedited filing fee w/ SOS office
Minute book record book
ledger book, formation officer nominee
US mail forwarding
bank account set up with checksigner nominee (US citizen requirement fulfilled)
US phone number
US fax number
physical presence in Nevada
business license
Initial list of Officer filing

Call and ask her all your tough questions.

Shoplifter · 10-14-2002, 09:18 PM

Can someone please list the required info on the Epoch form?

Shap · 10-14-2002, 09:50 PM

Don't need glasses. If that's the case it means Epoch has a billing solution in 1 of 7 billing regions. That makes them a pretty weak processor right about now.

artware · 10-15-2002, 04:45 AM

Here's the info on the Epoch form:

-=-=-=-

In consideration of Paycom Billing Services Inc's ("Paycom") aiding in registering my company, or if applicable myself, as a sponsored high risk merchant under Visa regulations:
I represent and warrant that:

The business being registered has a permanent establishment in the United States through which economic activity is completed;
The business being registered has an address in the United States for correspondence and judicial process;
The business being registered holds a valid business license in the United States; and
The business being registered pays applicable taxes relating to the sales processed through Paycom in the United States.
I request that you register my business at the following address, and represent and warrant that the following information is true and correct.

Master Code :
Official Company Name :
Billing Descriptor (to appear on credit card statement, join form and prominently displayed on all websites) :
Example: PAYCOM.NET *XXXXXX CALL 800 893-8871
Where XXXXXX is your descriptor.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Business Information

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Business Tax ID :
Business Street :
Business City :
Business State :
Business Zip :
Business Country :

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Principal Information

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

NOTE: You only need to list one principal of the company.

Principal's First Name :
Principal's Last Name :

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Driver's License Number:
Driver's License State:
--OR:
Passport Number:
Passport Country:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Principal's Street Address :
Principal's City :
Principal's State :
Principal's Zip :
Principal's Country :
Please list all other processors you will be using after Nov. 1, 2002 :
IBill
CCBill
Website Billing
Jettis
Other:

I understand that Paycom, its merchant bank(s) and Visa will all rely on the representations and warranties contained on this form, and I agree to indemnify Paycom, its officers, directors, shareholders, affiliated entities and persons, employees, agents, representatives and attorneys for any liability it may incur, including attorney's fees, as a result of any misrepresentation I make on this form.

I agree that Paycom may deduct $750 from my regular payments for the initial annual registration fee, and that thereafter it may deduct $325 from my regular payments for the subsequent annual registration fees. I understand that parties other than Paycom set the sponsored high risk merchant registration costs, and that Paycom may amend the registration fee if those other parties change the sponsored high risk merchant registration costs.

-=-=-=-

Greetings,

Art

KingK7 · 10-15-2002, 05:10 AM

Looks pretty straightforward and easy to me.

Shoplifter · 10-15-2002, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KingK7
Looks pretty straightforward and easy to me.

The Passport requirement is a show stopper. Getting a Canadian passport by the 24th is possible, although unlikely.

I can't believe these guys have left it so long we may be screwed by simple procedures like this.

Shap · 10-15-2002, 04:37 PM

It's amazing that none of the processors are addressing the international webmasters. Has it been established that not one of the big 3 can process for international webmasters? What's the deal?

Damian_Maxcash · 10-15-2002, 04:40 PM

I may have been watching to many old x-files episodes, but this whole thing stinks to me........

Smells a like a whole load of bullshit........

If you can count out Glo-bill like Epoch et al. are saying then the only people who can own adult web sites are US companies and paying tax in US.

Its either BS or the most outragious thing I have ever heard.

I think epoch are trying to fuck us over (again)

hitman699 · 10-15-2002, 06:34 PM

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The business being registered has a permanent establishment in the United States through which economic activity is completed;
The business being registered has an address in the United States for correspondence and judicial process;
The business being registered holds a valid business license in the United States; and
The business being registered pays applicable taxes relating to the sales processed through Paycom in the United States.
I request that you register my business at the following address, and represent and warrant that the following information is true and correct.
----------------------------------

Oh yea right and the IRS isn't behind this in the background. What business is it of VISA on taxes? scumbags

10-14-2002, 06:47 PM	#1
trailboss Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: 60 miles from nowhere and 6 feet from HELL! Posts: 54	Epoch starts registering - 10 days left Just got an email from PayCom/Epoch advising me of the registraion process for the new visa regulations. ~~~~~~ Monday October 14, 2002 10 Days to Go. Epoch begins the Visa registration process today. The online form will be available tonight (after 8:00 PM Pacific time) at the link listed at the bottom of this email. Before using the form, please make note of the following: a) The registration process requires submission by only one principal from your company. The person designated to be the principal listed with Visa should be the same person who signed the processing agreement with Paycom. Any changes will need to be immediately resolved with our legal department. For more information regarding this matter, or to make any changes, please write to [email protected] and include the words ?Contract Amendment? in the subject line. You should also include your Master Code or company code with your correspondence. b) In order to use the online registration form, the principal submitting the information must know their administrative login information (Master Code). The Master Code is not the same as your company code. If you obtained your Master Code previously (the one used to access the new Financial Reports) you may proceed directly to the registration form. If you do not know your Master Code, please contact your sales representative or technical support by writing to [email protected]. c) The new Visa regulations will provide a means to partially customize the descriptor which appears on your customers billing statement. The billing descriptor will read www.paycom.netyourbillingdescriptor call 1-800-893-8871. The space between the asterisks the allowed customization area and you are allowed 3-6 characters of alpha/numeric text. Your descriptor must be unique (on the Master Code level) and must not be explicit in nature. This descriptor will be used to brand your company appearing both on your join/payment forms and on your customers email confirmations as well. d) The new Visa registration form must be submitted by every Sponsored Merchant processing transactions in the United States with every Payment Service Provider for which you do business in the United States. You must also claim all U.S. processors in which you conduct business with on the registration form. To insure that all PSP?s are reporting the same data to Visa, the registration form will be removed October 24, 2002 and multiple billing companies will work together to insure each sponsored merchant is properly registered. e) If your company does not have a U.S. presence and you would like additional information about incorporation in the U.S., please send a request for additional information to [email protected]. f) If you have questions regarding the form or about the new requirements, please send an email to [email protected]. An FAQ regarding the new Visa regulations is now online at https://paycom.net/visaregfaq/ . The registration process will only take a couple of minutes and is required to insure that your company is properly registered, and, that your processing continues uninterrupted after November 1, 2002. The online registration form may be found at https://www.epochsystems.com/visaregistry/ after 8:00 PM Pacific time this evening. --Rand at Epoch Director of Corporate Communications Epoch Transactions Services / Paycom.net www.epochsystems.com

10-14-2002, 07:39 PM	#3
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	fuck that.... outlaw baby.... O-U-T-L-A-W! __________________ SIG TOO BIG

10-14-2002, 07:35 PM	#2
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Does Epoch have a solution for webmasters living in the Bahamas? Or are they only dealing with US Companies?

10-14-2002, 07:54 PM	#4
trailboss Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: 60 miles from nowhere and 6 feet from HELL! Posts: 54	Shap do you need new glasses? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ e) If your company does not have a U.S. presence and you would like additional information about incorporation in the U.S., please send a request for additional information to [email protected]. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You could call them but I advise you to contact [email protected] She knows about this and can offer a solution. Articles / Bylaws prepared expedited filing fee w/ SOS office Minute book record book ledger book, formation officer nominee US mail forwarding bank account set up with checksigner nominee (US citizen requirement fulfilled) US phone number US fax number physical presence in Nevada business license Initial list of Officer filing Call and ask her all your tough questions.

10-14-2002, 09:18 PM	#5
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,726	Can someone please list the required info on the Epoch form?

10-14-2002, 09:50 PM	#6
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Don't need glasses. If that's the case it means Epoch has a billing solution in 1 of 7 billing regions. That makes them a pretty weak processor right about now.

10-15-2002, 04:45 AM	#7
artware Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 268	Here's the info on the Epoch form: -=-=-=- In consideration of Paycom Billing Services Inc's ("Paycom") aiding in registering my company, or if applicable myself, as a sponsored high risk merchant under Visa regulations: I represent and warrant that: The business being registered has a permanent establishment in the United States through which economic activity is completed; The business being registered has an address in the United States for correspondence and judicial process; The business being registered holds a valid business license in the United States; and The business being registered pays applicable taxes relating to the sales processed through Paycom in the United States. I request that you register my business at the following address, and represent and warrant that the following information is true and correct. Master Code : Official Company Name : Billing Descriptor (to appear on credit card statement, join form and prominently displayed on all websites) : Example: PAYCOM.NET *XXXXXX CALL 800 893-8871 Where XXXXXX is your descriptor. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Business Information -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Business Tax ID : Business Street : Business City : Business State : Business Zip : Business Country : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Principal Information -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE: You only need to list one principal of the company. Principal's First Name : Principal's Last Name : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Driver's License Number: Driver's License State: --OR: Passport Number: Passport Country: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Principal's Street Address : Principal's City : Principal's State : Principal's Zip : Principal's Country : Please list all other processors you will be using after Nov. 1, 2002 : IBill CCBill Website Billing Jettis Other: I understand that Paycom, its merchant bank(s) and Visa will all rely on the representations and warranties contained on this form, and I agree to indemnify Paycom, its officers, directors, shareholders, affiliated entities and persons, employees, agents, representatives and attorneys for any liability it may incur, including attorney's fees, as a result of any misrepresentation I make on this form. I agree that Paycom may deduct $750 from my regular payments for the initial annual registration fee, and that thereafter it may deduct $325 from my regular payments for the subsequent annual registration fees. I understand that parties other than Paycom set the sponsored high risk merchant registration costs, and that Paycom may amend the registration fee if those other parties change the sponsored high risk merchant registration costs. -=-=-=- Greetings, Art

10-15-2002, 05:10 AM	#8
KingK7 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6,372	Looks pretty straightforward and easy to me.

10-15-2002, 04:37 PM	#10
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	It's amazing that none of the processors are addressing the international webmasters. Has it been established that not one of the big 3 can process for international webmasters? What's the deal?

10-15-2002, 04:40 PM	#11
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	I may have been watching to many old x-files episodes, but this whole thing stinks to me........ Smells a like a whole load of bullshit........ If you can count out Glo-bill like Epoch et al. are saying then the only people who can own adult web sites are US companies and paying tax in US. Its either BS or the most outragious thing I have ever heard. I think epoch are trying to fuck us over (again)

10-15-2002, 06:34 PM	#12
hitman699 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 159	------------------------------- The business being registered has a permanent establishment in the United States through which economic activity is completed; The business being registered has an address in the United States for correspondence and judicial process; The business being registered holds a valid business license in the United States; and The business being registered pays applicable taxes relating to the sales processed through Paycom in the United States. I request that you register my business at the following address, and represent and warrant that the following information is true and correct. ---------------------------------- Oh yea right and the IRS isn't behind this in the background. What business is it of VISA on taxes? scumbags