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Old 01-25-2008, 08:03 PM   #1
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:mad Is there anything that Hillary Clinton won't say or do to become president?

It's getting fucking ridiculous.

Today she's at a historically black college in South Carolina, and says that we need to double the funding we give to historically black colleges. (how convenient a stance to all of a sudden have when you're losing the black vote in SC)

Then later in the day, she decides that she thinks the democratic party needs to reinstate the delegates for Michigan and Florida.

These states were stripped of their delegates for moving their primaries up in violation of party rules.

She was the only democrat on the ballot in Michigan, and the primary in Florida is on Tuesday. (where she has a big lead in the polls)

How convenient, in a tight race with Obama, let's change the rules in the middle of the game and give her the delegates from a state where she was the only one on the ballot, and where all the candidates agreed not to campaign.

Not to mention the lying ass radio ads she's running, twisting and turning everything Obama says to try and make him look bad.

I guess the good news is that she has nothing "real" on Obama. If she did she would have used it by now. (and if her people can't find anything, the republicans won't be able to either)

Instead she has to resort to lies to try and make him look bad, or try to get the party the change the rules in the middle of the game so she can win.

I know that I'm an Obama supporter so maybe my opinion of these things is a little biased, but is there any reasonable person who can look at stuff like this and then believe anything Hillary Clinton says?
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:15 PM   #2
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States do not count. Penalty.

Wait a minute. I have those states by a landslide.

States do count!
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:31 PM   #3
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the hate she's going to build up over the campaign to get the Democratic nomination is going to be dwarfed by the hate towards her when she runs for President. she has ZERO chance of being elected president - Obama is more electable than she is I think
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:35 PM   #4
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Is there anything that Hillary Clinton won't say or do to become president?
Of course not.
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:38 PM   #5
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i was pretty neutral at the start of the campaign more and more i dont like her.
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:50 PM   #6
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Thats politics dude. Just look objectively at any political candidate in any country, they all do it - dont try to concentrate and hate on one specific candidate. Fake promises is what every politician gets elected, it's the name of the game. Oh and that in combination with rigged voting machines is really a winner. Bush, anyone?
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:11 PM   #7
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Thats politics dude. Just look objectively at any political candidate in any country, they all do it - dont try to concentrate and hate on one specific candidate. Fake promises is what every politician gets elected, it's the name of the game. Oh and that in combination with rigged voting machines is really a winner. Bush, anyone?
That's one of the reasons I really like Obama.

He goes to Detroit and gives a speech about how we need tougher fuel efficiency standards.
He goes to churches and tells them not to pander to homophobes.

Hillary tells everyone what she thinks they want to hear.
First she's about experience and not about change.
Then when she finds out the voters want change, she says "oh well I want change too and I have the experience to bring about change"

She was for the Iraq war when 7 in 10 Americans were for it, now that 7 in 10 Americans are against it, she's against it too.

Obama says the same thing everywhere he goes, even when it's not popular.

Hillary will never say anything unpopular because she won't speak without running it by a focus group first.

And to have an ex-president out on the campaign trail smearing another candidate by saying things that are patently false....it's demeaning to the presidency.

I'm sick of the Clintons, and I sure do hope the people who live in super tuesday states are sick of it too.
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:08 PM   #8
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I really can't stand that woman.

I mean I REALLY can't stand her.
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:26 PM   #9
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This is one of my favorites.

A Clinton campaign worker tells the AP that she thinks "Obama could have a debate with himself"

Then in the next debate Clinton says "The AP reported that you could have a debate with yourself"

I mean....how deep does the rabbit hole go?
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:32 PM   #10
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:34 PM   #11
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All true, but you forgot to mention how the Clintonistas also tried to rewrite the rules and move the goalposts in Nevada --once the game had begun.

Bill and Hillary are the dirtiest of the dirty.
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Old 01-25-2008, 11:40 PM   #13
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All true, but you forgot to mention how the Clintonistas also tried to rewrite the rules and move the goalposts in Nevada --once the game had begun.

Bill and Hillary are the dirtiest of the dirty.
Yeah that was fucked up. They had known what the caucus rules were for a year in advance, and then once Obama got the culinary workers union endorsement, they told the teacher's union to file a lawsuit saying the rules were unfair.

Then the spin the night before was that if she lost it would be because the caucus votes on the strip were worth 5 times more than the caucus votes everywhere else.

Then she wins the precints on the strip, but loses all the rural areas, and still proclaims victory.

Go figure.
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Old 01-26-2008, 12:03 AM   #15
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It's getting fucking ridiculous.

Today she's at a historically black college in South Carolina, and says that we need to double the funding we give to historically black colleges. (how convenient a stance to all of a sudden have when you're losing the black vote in SC)

Then later in the day, she decides that she thinks the democratic party needs to reinstate the delegates for Michigan and Florida.

These states were stripped of their delegates for moving their primaries up in violation of party rules.

She was the only democrat on the ballot in Michigan, and the primary in Florida is on Tuesday. (where she has a big lead in the polls)

How convenient, in a tight race with Obama, let's change the rules in the middle of the game and give her the delegates from a state where she was the only one on the ballot, and where all the candidates agreed not to campaign.

Not to mention the lying ass radio ads she's running, twisting and turning everything Obama says to try and make him look bad.

I guess the good news is that she has nothing "real" on Obama. If she did she would have used it by now. (and if her people can't find anything, the republicans won't be able to either)

Instead she has to resort to lies to try and make him look bad, or try to get the party the change the rules in the middle of the game so she can win.

I know that I'm an Obama supporter so maybe my opinion of these things is a little biased, but is there any reasonable person who can look at stuff like this and then believe anything Hillary Clinton says?
political campaigining is about twisting and turning statements and advertisements. what do you expect her to say.. barak is a great man who will serve our country well and will always make good decisions? absolutely not. this is a race, not a team work event trying to root each other on. and he thinks that because hilary's people 'cant find anything on obama' means that the republicans wont either? says who? give us a minute here while we take part in noticing how much we care about hilary 'lying' about obama and ignore the other republican candidates who we're running against to get the nomination. it's about delegates at this point in time, so we aint gonna beat you up juss yet. and he says we cant believe anything hilary says, what will allow us to believe any politician says then? they all change their views from time to time, and say things they dont mean or juss change their view on something.

but please, this is not only hilary, this is the mass of the democratic party. and i am by no means trying to support hilary, but stop beating up on the woman for christs sake just because women are starting to take the lead
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Old 01-26-2008, 12:40 AM   #17
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political campaigining is about twisting and turning statements and advertisements. what do you expect her to say.. barak is a great man who will serve our country well and will always make good decisions? absolutely not. this is a race, not a team work event trying to root each other on. and he thinks that because hilary's people 'cant find anything on obama' means that the republicans wont either? says who? give us a minute here while we take part in noticing how much we care about hilary 'lying' about obama and ignore the other republican candidates who we're running against to get the nomination. it's about delegates at this point in time, so we aint gonna beat you up juss yet. and he says we cant believe anything hilary says, what will allow us to believe any politician says then? they all change their views from time to time, and say things they dont mean or juss change their view on something.

but please, this is not only hilary, this is the mass of the democratic party. and i am by no means trying to support hilary, but stop beating up on the woman for christs sake just because women are starting to take the lead
Following your post was like trying to follow the plot of "The Thin Red Line"

After a couple of minutes I just gave up and turned it off.
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Old 01-26-2008, 12:56 AM   #18
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Following your post was like trying to follow the plot of "The Thin Red Line"

After a couple of minutes I just gave up and turned it off.
Cant take the heat? Then get outta the kitchen
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