BIZ THREAD: Good House Keeping Seal of Approval Type Company for Affiliate Programs? - GoFuckYourself.com

J$tyle$ · 05-23-2007, 05:28 PM

I was reading another board where the age old question of trust came up again regarding the programs you promote.

In an ideal world, these wouldn't be issues but obviously we don't live or work in Utopia!

10+ years in, and this is still an unregulated/unchecked business based on trust. With that comes great opportunity and also a lot of potential unscrupulous activity and shady business practices.

Whether you should or shouldn't, webmasters have to trust you are getting all their clicks and signups counted just like you trust that 6 minute long distance phone call isn't being charged at 11 minutes by the phone company or you weren't over charged and under pumped at the gas station.

Having people like XXXJay and Marc from hoes.com reveal their stats and create processes for their own checks and balances is good for them and also a nice public service which is appreciated by many ... but still, it doesn't allow for you to KNOW you aren't getting shaved or "SoAndSoCash.com" has all of their 2257 in order.

Truth is, there's obviously no checks and balances and no well known, widely respected third-party "good house keeping seal of approval" type companies that can audit and monitor Affiliate programs and reliably report that "SoAndSoCash.com" is completely clean, has all 2257 in order, counts all clicks and signups and has a record of paying on time every time since XYZ year.

I was reminded that there was once a company that did provided such services for a couple affiliate companies - but I don't remember their name and it seems they've vanished due to lack of participation by program owners ... if I?m not mistaken.

Someone that can convince site owners and webmasters that they can BE THAT right now/TODAY will have a great business model on their hands and help foster the trust that seems to be lacking among many.

Problem is, program owners aren't going to hand over their data and open up their processes to a third party company like that for a number of reasons, IMHO.

What do you think?

tony286 · 05-23-2007, 05:30 PM

Good housekeeping reviews adult programs? Where in the magazine is that in the back lol

munki · 05-23-2007, 05:33 PM

I think usage of NATS and other like softwares have eliminated a lot of these issues with programs... but still def. not a perfect world.

RawAlex · 05-23-2007, 05:40 PM

The reality is that with the "bro" club hard at work, the worst offenders would never get outed. The amount of ass kissing a cronyism in this business is a little overwhelming at times.

BucksMania · 05-23-2007, 06:02 PM

well the internet is still at stage "wild wild west"
everyone does whatever he wants, and there is little to none regulation
and it wont change anytime soon

but hey, its kinda charming like that, isnt it?

J$tyle$ · 05-23-2007, 07:25 PM

Great post on somewhere else:

Quote:

It's simply too easy to start in this biz.
Processors should keep a 6 months 100% rolling reserve, require proof of content purchases of at least $250k.
Without track record of at least 24 months don't allow rev share etc. etc.

Casino/poker business doesn't have this problem too much. Will cost you $100k just in software/hardware and depending on the country another $100k-$500k in license fees just to get started. A decent software provider will require proof of funds, I've seen software companies (casino) that need proof you have at least $1mil cash to run the biz.

Adult people can start with $5000 , a pussy and a $150 digital cam.

J$tyle$ · 05-23-2007, 08:41 PM

biz threads die faster than anything around here lately huh?

Juicy D. Links · 05-23-2007, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by J$tyle$

biz threads die faster than anything around here lately huh?

you need to post in the title "I have a watermelon in my ass" to get views and replies

J$tyle$ · 05-24-2007, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

you need to post in the title "I have a watermelon in my ass" to get views and replies

I don't have a watermelon in my ass tho

lolololllol

Paul Markham · 05-24-2007, 02:56 AM

The only things I worry about is the size of the check and is the guy honest.

If more went by those rules there would be a lot less scammers.

mb · 05-24-2007, 07:26 AM

I miss the old good/bad/ugly... let's get it going again J$

http://goodbadugly.info/

marc

LadyMischief · 05-24-2007, 07:29 AM

Who would set the standard? I find that with a lot of "awards" or "recognitions" in this business, it ends up always being based on the "old boys club", and oftentimes those who are even more worthy of praise or recognition are tossed to the wayside because they are "new". There would have to be a lot of standards and a cross-sectional review board of unbiased members before any type of system would function and not be suspect.

munki · 05-24-2007, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief

Who would set the standard? I find that with a lot of "awards" or "recognitions" in this business, it ends up always being based on the "old boys club", and oftentimes those who are even more worthy of praise or recognition are tossed to the wayside because they are "new". There would have to be a lot of standards and a cross-sectional review board of unbiased members before any type of system would function and not be suspect.

And who gets to determine who is unbiased?

SykkBoy · 05-24-2007, 08:28 AM

Some good points listed in this thred, but you'd also have to consider...
What makes a "good" affiliate program? That will vary from affiliate to affiliate. What one program might offer/do/allow could vary greatly from another, yet both could serve their respective affiliates well.

J$tyle$ · 05-24-2007, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by munki

And who gets to determine who is unbiased?

true dat

Juicy D. Links · 05-24-2007, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by J$tyle$

true dat

ok then post you saw a guy with watermelon ion ass

Brad Mitchell · 05-24-2007, 11:53 AM

I'll sort them out

Brad

J$tyle$ · 05-24-2007, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

ok then post you saw a guy with watermelon ion ass

I saw this guy JUICY with watermelon in his ass

Juicy D. Links · 05-24-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by J$tyle$

I saw this guy JUICY with watermelon in his ass

wtfffffffffffff

05-23-2007, 05:28 PM	#1
J$tyle$ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 11,500	BIZ THREAD: Good House Keeping Seal of Approval Type Company for Affiliate Programs? I was reading another board where the age old question of trust came up again regarding the programs you promote. In an ideal world, these wouldn't be issues but obviously we don't live or work in Utopia! 10+ years in, and this is still an unregulated/unchecked business based on trust. With that comes great opportunity and also a lot of potential unscrupulous activity and shady business practices. Whether you should or shouldn't, webmasters have to trust you are getting all their clicks and signups counted just like you trust that 6 minute long distance phone call isn't being charged at 11 minutes by the phone company or you weren't over charged and under pumped at the gas station. Having people like XXXJay and Marc from hoes.com reveal their stats and create processes for their own checks and balances is good for them and also a nice public service which is appreciated by many ... but still, it doesn't allow for you to KNOW you aren't getting shaved or "SoAndSoCash.com" has all of their 2257 in order. Truth is, there's obviously no checks and balances and no well known, widely respected third-party "good house keeping seal of approval" type companies that can audit and monitor Affiliate programs and reliably report that "SoAndSoCash.com" is completely clean, has all 2257 in order, counts all clicks and signups and has a record of paying on time every time since XYZ year. I was reminded that there was once a company that did provided such services for a couple affiliate companies - but I don't remember their name and it seems they've vanished due to lack of participation by program owners ... if I?m not mistaken. Someone that can convince site owners and webmasters that they can BE THAT right now/TODAY will have a great business model on their hands and help foster the trust that seems to be lacking among many. Problem is, program owners aren't going to hand over their data and open up their processes to a third party company like that for a number of reasons, IMHO. What do you think?

05-23-2007, 05:33 PM	#3
munki Do Fun Shit. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OC Posts: 13,393	I think usage of NATS and other like softwares have eliminated a lot of these issues with programs... but still def. not a perfect world. __________________ “I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

05-24-2007, 02:56 AM	#10
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The only things I worry about is the size of the check and is the guy honest. If more went by those rules there would be a lot less scammers. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

05-24-2007, 07:29 AM	#12
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	Who would set the standard? I find that with a lot of "awards" or "recognitions" in this business, it ends up always being based on the "old boys club", and oftentimes those who are even more worthy of praise or recognition are tossed to the wayside because they are "new". There would have to be a lot of standards and a cross-sectional review board of unbiased members before any type of system would function and not be suspect. __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

05-24-2007, 08:28 AM	#14
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	Some good points listed in this thred, but you'd also have to consider... What makes a "good" affiliate program? That will vary from affiliate to affiliate. What one program might offer/do/allow could vary greatly from another, yet both could serve their respective affiliates well. __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

05-23-2007, 05:30 PM	#2
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Good housekeeping reviews adult programs? Where in the magazine is that in the back lol

05-23-2007, 05:40 PM	#4
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	The reality is that with the "bro" club hard at work, the worst offenders would never get outed. The amount of ass kissing a cronyism in this business is a little overwhelming at times.

05-23-2007, 06:02 PM	#5
BucksMania Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,758	well the internet is still at stage "wild wild west" everyone does whatever he wants, and there is little to none regulation and it wont change anytime soon but hey, its kinda charming like that, isnt it?

05-23-2007, 08:41 PM	#7
J$tyle$ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 11,500	biz threads die faster than anything around here lately huh?

05-24-2007, 07:26 AM	#11
mb Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,550	I miss the old good/bad/ugly... let's get it going again J$ http://goodbadugly.info/ marc

05-24-2007, 11:53 AM	#17
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	I'll sort them out Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999