Evil Chris

I think probably the hottest and best converting teen site going right now.

Her numbers are staggering, and I have personally tested her with all sorts of different traffic. All with results way better than I expected. www.littlelupe.com

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Just_Dave

damn she looks young

fris

can i hotlink your trailers?

thricer

you got that right

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rapmaster

lol here we go again

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stickyfingerz

I guess I better post here lol. 1:81 right now.

AaronM

How observant of you.

CaptainHowdy

Shiat !! !!

Evil Chris

You're not just posting your referral for the hell of it. Those are great numbers and very typical for Lupe. Nice

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Just_Dave

i dont pay attention to many sites out there

TubeTitans_SusieQ

i thought i was looking at a 15 yr old when that site came up

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Scott McD

Did you close the page as quickly as possible then ?

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life

she's not that cute at all in my opinion...

the only reason her site sells like hotcakes IS because she looks like she's 14 and she sucks some big old greasy cock...

i still haven't promotoed her yet, and i doubt i will. this is a blatant attempt at selling some sort of pseudo-childpornography in my opinion. say what you will about it, defend yourself by saying "oh! but she IS 18! it is legal!"

i defended teenrevenue's stance on the arguement previously in the arguement over models like topanga and chloe, but i have a hard time defending them on little lupe. she looks ridiculously young to begin with, do you have to doll her up like a 10 year old girl when she's getting pounded from every angle? it was one hting when cutesy little chicks were posing naked in braces. but you took the young look TOO FAR on this one, and made it hardcore...

thats got to be something to be proud of...

AaronM

I'm going to say this ONE FINAL TIME for those of you who have not been paying attention:

Lupe was not "dolled up" or anything like that. When I shoot solo girl sites, I typically go out and buy all of their wardrobe and such. In this case, we used Lupe's existing wardrobe and actually had to "doll it down" so that we could shoot it and still pass Visa's approval process. NOTHING was done to make her look younger than she does every day of her life. In fact, we had to take steps to make her seem a little bit older than normal.

So, based on your post, you think that because a girl is 20 but looks way younger that she should be told..."No, you can't have a site." Well, TeenRevenue disagrees with you.

You defended Topanga and Chloe WERE dolled up to look younger and the braces were no accident. Lupe was not dolled up and she has no braces.

How you can defend two sites that do what you are bitching about while condemning one that is not based on what YOU THINK instead of the actual facts?

You're argument is unsubstantiated.

Strickie

excellent

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life

So are you saying that TeenRevenue DOES intentionally doll up it's models? NO WAY!

How can you sit there and say "Yes, we doll up the other models, but we swear to god we didn't do a damn thing to the youngest looking of the bunch!"

She doesn't look near as young here http://www.zuleidy.com/ I'm not noticing any

But hey, I understand man, who gives a fuck when you're making a pile of money right? Tell yourself whatever you need to so you can sleep at night...

Kram

You got that right ...

dissipate

Honestly, if she's over the age of 18 I don't care if the bitch has a pegleg as long as she converts.

everblazin

Your right she looks alot older there, but you could argue that they had to make her look older because ethically they didn't want to show her to a paedo audience... :P

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donnie

Interesting...

tranza

She looks too young to me.....

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Evil Chris

Well, you've drawn your line in the sand, and that's cool. Thanks for your previous support.

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The Dawg

Say word.

AaronM

I've never considered you to be ignorant so I'm going to take a few minutes to answer your question.

The way she appears on Zuleidy.com is what happens when you intentionally alter her to fit a different look than what she actually has. That was done for her to fit the look of a completely different project where everybody else involved was also heavily altrered. We did not alter her other than removing items, mainly stuffed animals...from her everyday life. If you are concerned about people altering models to look different ages then maybe you should focus your energy on those who shot her for zuleidy.com.

You've seen me posting here for a number of years. By now you should know that I don't really care if people disagree with me unless their thoughts are based on ignorance and or stupidity.

I don't know how much more straight forward and simple I can make this for you. I was there, I know the facts. You are sitting behind a keyboard and don't know fuck all....Yet you come here and post your misinformed opinions and you justify those opinions by standing behind sites that have done the very thing that you are bitching about.

Does the site convert well under 1:100 and make money? You bet your ass it does.

Does she look young? Hell yes she does.

Did we do anything to make her look even younger? No, we didn't.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life

So basically you're saying that if they dropped the legal age of consent for people to star in hardcore pornography to 10, and you could profit well from the anal pounding of pre-pubescent girls, you'd gladly do it? I'm just kidding, I can't be firing off accusations like that, but I guarantee there's alot of people hanging around here who would jump all over it in the name of dollars.

Everyone knows what TeenRevenue's game plan has been from day one, to market young looking girls as even younger looking girls. That's no big secret, and this arguement has been pounded into the ground. There's no law against simulated kiddie porn, the laws actually protect it now if I remember correctly.

I just think this time they may have pushed things over the edge this time, perhaps they should have tamed her look a little if thats the case. Regardless, they went into the deal knowing she looks like a cocksucking eleventeen year old, and were smiling ear to ear knowing how well their new cashcow was going to do with their pedo-hungry customers.

I'm making the choice to not associate myself with it on any of my sites, because I don't want to put out the impression that I support the action took on that ONE site. I don't care if it converts 1:1. I don't want to be known as someone who promotes simulated kp, and that's that. I guess Teen Revenue already being in this market for this long, just doesn't give a shit anymore. Find them a 4'5" 18 year old with no breasts, they'd shave her snatch and put a lollipop in her mouth. Fuck it, it's legal right?

Kevsh

Unless I'm mistaken, in another Lupe thread there was pics of her surrounded by kids toys, sitting on one of those tiny chairs for tots.

I think that qualifies as trying to make her look younger, no?

Or you could just look at the free video clip on her site ...
Making her look older? Come on...

Her appeal is that she looks young, you know it, and the site is obviously designed to leverage that.

Dirty Dane

She looks great!

carol.prime

omg!! she's too young..

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life

It's just my opinion of the one site, and I can't honestly say that I approve of it in any way. But you are all right, there is now law against it. No underage girls are involved. Maybe Lupe does dress young looking who knows.

Aaron, I don't hold anything personal you or the TeenRevenue team, you are just doing your jobs. I just disagree with what I'm seeing and choose to stay away from it, and at the same time I'm not one to sit quiet with my opinions. Even if they aren't perfect, or if I haven't got ALL the information.

Iron Fist

Still love promoting her, even though every image is watermarked to hell

Evil Chris

Funny you mention that. I have had more webmasters remark on it than members of her site.

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scottybuzz

unbelivable

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abyss_al

yet... there is one in the making... I will find the link for you...

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Funbrunette

She really is converting quite well! Hell I'd hit it!

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cones

lets see some screenshots of those stats

Webby

Na Kevsh - all models try to sit their asses in a kids nursery chair - they all wear hairclips and they all play with teddy bears and have a mentality of under 10's where they play with coloring books and pens

"You honor, I can prove she is over 18 and I swear I never intended to make her look like a kid!" *lol*

Not long ago two law people saw some of that imaging and they both "rated" it the same as far as "what the public saw" - basically a kid of 12 years of age, tho one thought she could have been younger. The 2257 bullshit was trivial, but 2256 was relevant.

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Yngwie

she converts pretty damn good. This is just a very small amount of traffic, but

Totals: 1738 11 0 0 1:158 $194.71

all the traffic is from 1 place

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Webby

Not exactly correct man... there are plenty laws against it. Almost every western country has laws against portraying legal talent as minors. In the US, you need to check USC 2256 which covers this topic by way of definition.

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Aussie Rebel

I can beat that 1: 27

fris

as long as shes legal who cares, but we all know deep down inside what kind of surfers sign up to these sites, not just saying teenrevenue, any teen site, if you dont like what you see, dont promote it.

RawAlex

Webby, you need to catch up with the law. All of the "looks like a minor" provisions were thrown out a long time ago as basically being a matter of taste, and because they limited the free speech of adults.

Please, run along.

Webby

I don't bother specifically about the domestic laws of the US Alex - was just based on what I was told by folks who know this area. There are plenty more ways to skin a cat - even in the US

Admittedly the US is a little backward in terms of child laws and children do not have the same rights in place as exist in literally every other country on the planet - but, there are folks ready to deal with pseudo CP and more important actual offenses against children and the volume of actual CP on US servers (estimated to be 50-60% of the world's total "representation" of net CP).

In Canada, this is covered under the Child Protection Act and in the EU, under a variety of legislation - ranging from obscenity laws to whatever. The bottom line effect is the same - basically it falls under the respective penal codes.

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Randyyy

no comment

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Matt 26z

The main reason I do not push this site can be summed up in the following question...

If you were to look at the computers of members of this site, what would you find?

Hollywood Horwitz

some could argue it's cathartic to have chicks look that young but actually be 25 yr old...

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Yngwie

this would be the same for members of any other site teen or not. You can't tell me that only sites like lupe's has members who have a shit load of questionable content on their PCs. I'll bet that at least 80% of all members on ALL sites have something that is questionable or illegal on the PCs when it comes to pics or videos.

she may look young, but there are girl's (not porn chicks) in your town, my town etc.. that look way younger and are in their 30's, but we would still fuck them if we had the chance. Why? Because they are legal. People need to relax. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I've seen, on many occasions people posting pics of UNDERAGE celebs stating "I can't wait till they're 18!". Implying that they are hoping that these celebs will get naked. So it's ok to fantasize about an underage celeb, but it's not ok to have a LEGAL girl that happens to look young on a porn site?

Hell, my girlfriend is 38 years old and she looks like she's 20. Not everyone will look like their age. Yes, I understand the whole pig tail and hair clip thing.. It can, to some people, make her look much younger than she is, but it's all in the eyes of the beholder. For me I don't see her as below 18. It's just to add the whole innocent thing.. Innocent but naughty.. it sells.

It's all on how you see it I guess. Everyone sees things a different way, but I'll tell you this, the people that are actually looking for CP will not spend money on a site that they know the girl is NOT under 18. They will use p2p software of whatever else they can in order to get the real deal. The real pedos don't want to pay for access to a legal girl and have to imagine/pretend that she's under 18. Some may join out of curiosity wondering if she's 18 or below 18, yes. Although that %'s is small.

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JaneB

Damn my husband promotes their stuff and we do not do that well on Little Lupe. He does really well on Chloe, Topanga, April and Summer. I guess since everyone is promoting Little Lupe now that could be one of the reasons. Now on Brea Bennett I am rocking. I am 1:13 but I jumped on that as soon as it opened up.

DWB

A lot of debate here over a girl who is clearly over the age of 18.

It's obvious she is marketed to those who want underage girls, but they never say she is underage, illegal or anything else to incriminate. They don't have to. They simply leave it to the viewers imagination which is often far worse then any fantasy you could sell them in the first place. Pure genius.

Those of you taking the moral high road on this one need to step back and look at the business we are all in. Morals get checked at the door in this industry, and if you're selling any porn at all you may as well be selling all LEGAL porn because that same guy who is really looking at pedo shit, is also looking at what you're selling. You are also feeding people with addiction, people who have destroyed their families over pornography, people who spend all their money on pornography, yet that doesn't bother you. Then you hope they forget about their membership so you get rebills. But a young looking LEGAL girl is not. I'm sure you will defend your stance and try to spin that someone "your porn" is ok, but we both know you are full of it.

I think she's hot and I'd hit it without a rubber. Kudos to the guys who made this site.

Kevsh

... and as long as there is a buck to be made, many of us will convince ourselves that it's okay to make and promote a site where anyone with common sense will be able to notice the intent.

But what to me is silly is when I read "we don't try to make her look young", etc. If you're going to promote it, be straight about it:

Yes, she's over 18.
Yes, it's within the law.
And yes, I just want to make bank so the rest I don't care about.