Content pricing - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Markham · 04-06-2002, 10:47 PM

Just had a very interesting conversation with a webmaster about the price of content.

He wants a quality teeny site, with real teens and exclusive sets. He is already buying some sets but admitted they were poor, but cheap.

What he wants is quality for the same price. He wants to make more money without spending more.

One of the things about having quality is it's rarity if everyone had a Lotus car it would not be prestigeous.

Expect to pay for quality and understand it's true benefits. It says something about you to the surfer. Putting up the same old crap as eveyone else, will not put you apart. Something that is needed when there are 100,000 in the herd.

Remember
It's dificult to fly with the eagles if you piss like a sparrow.

SleazyDream · 04-06-2002, 10:48 PM

he should have asked you to provide it for less. isn't that how bsiness works - you would be taking it from the other company he's currently using...............

Paul Markham · 04-06-2002, 10:59 PM

No he can keep using them, they can stay in business. It puts our clients above their clients. Audi and Saab want Fords to stay in business.

SleazyDream · 04-06-2002, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
No he can keep using them, they can stay in business. It puts our clients above their clients. Audi and Saab want Fords to stay in business.

wouldn't it jsut be cheaper to get a password from your site and just copy all the pics?

=^..^= · 04-06-2002, 11:02 PM

This is true - why do you think are so many poor people in the world? the rich have to stay rich somehow lol

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Paul Markham · 04-06-2002, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

wouldn't it jsut be cheaper to get a password from your site and just copy all the pics?

All the proper size ones have my url on them, do it and I can open my own paysite and not pay for traffic. They will see where all the good stuff came from and head there in a click

SleazyDream · 04-06-2002, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly

All the proper size ones have my url on them, do it and I can open my own paysite and not pay for traffic. They will see where all the good stuff came from and head there in a click

cool.

LiveDose · 04-06-2002, 11:24 PM

I am so glad I read this thread...

kmanrox · 04-07-2002, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Just had a very interesting conversation with a webmaster about the price of content.

He wants a quality teeny site, with real teens and exclusive sets. He is already buying some sets but admitted they were poor, but cheap.

What he wants is quality for the same price. He wants to make more money without spending more.

One of the things about having quality is it's rarity if everyone had a Lotus car it would not be prestigeous.

Expect to pay for quality and understand it's true benefits. It says something about you to the surfer. Putting up the same old crap as eveyone else, will not put you apart. Something that is needed when there are 100,000 in the herd.

Remember
It's dificult to fly with the eagles if you piss like a sparrow.

hahahahaha

"It's dificult to fly with the eagles if you piss like a sparrow." i love it

adding it to sig

UnseenWorld · 04-07-2002, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly

All the proper size ones have my url on them, do it and I can open my own paysite and not pay for traffic. They will see where all the good stuff came from and head there in a click

Whenever anyone points out a way someone might steal some of my own photography, I point out that I don't sell photos, anyway. What I sell is the right to use them. If I find someone using them without the right to use them, I can fuck them over in several different ways.

SleazyDream · 04-07-2002, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Whenever anyone points out a way someone might steal some of my own photography, I point out that I don't sell photos, anyway. What I sell is the right to use them. If I find someone using them without the right to use them, I can fuck them over in several different ways.

more photos .....more photos.... more photos

Paul Markham · 04-07-2002, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox

hahahahaha

"It's dificult to fly with the eagles if you piss like a sparrow." i love it

adding it to sig

SO HOW DO YOU PISS?

Like a humming bird? mmmmmmmmmmmmm

Loch · 04-07-2002, 06:23 AM

it´s fucking incredible what ppl are willing to do to get a 5% discount on a set sold at 40$

Why the hell do they bother, prices are soooo freeking low already now

Charley dont be to mean to them

ZatCHICKPIXXX · 04-07-2002, 06:38 AM

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Michael O · 04-07-2002, 06:54 AM

I rather spend a few $$$ extra and get quality pics!
Quality sells much better than those ugly 2 cents a pics

Loch · 04-07-2002, 07:03 AM

HAHAHA ZatCHICKPIXXX if you give out discounts there wont be a fucking thing left man

UnseenWorld · 04-07-2002, 12:09 PM

Content is a marketplace like any other. If something is sold at a "too good to be true" price, there is probably a reason why. A lot of newbies will buy what seems like a bargain CD, "!000 pics only $60!" or some such. What they don't realize is that the reason the pics are so cheap is probably one or more of several reasons: 1) they are old tired content; 2) they are unauthorized pirated content; 3) they are photos used in magazines years ago; 4) they are the photos rejected by the magazines; 5) the way the seller plans on making money off the content is by selling it by the dumptruck load.

Anybody who makes good content and sells it in reasonable quantities while it's still fresh is either a piss-poor businessperson or he's insane.

I've taken the position from the beginning that I won't let myself become "the K-Mart of adult content."

Let's face it: If you could buy a Lexus for $13.5K, everyone would have one and it would no longer be anything special.

The key to success, especially for a pay site, is to have exclusive content, regularly refreshed. If you get five joins a day and every other day one of them decides to leave rebilling on because they at last have a neverending source of the kind of content they like, this is how one becomes wealthy in this business.

Having the sort of stuff they can find anywhere without hardly trying is not the way to go.

Either deal with a quality, but small-volume supplier (like myself), or get exclusive material made (which I also do). Otherwise, you're just another "me-too" webmaster without much prospect of getting anywhere.

04-06-2002, 10:47 PM	#1
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Content pricing Just had a very interesting conversation with a webmaster about the price of content. He wants a quality teeny site, with real teens and exclusive sets. He is already buying some sets but admitted they were poor, but cheap. What he wants is quality for the same price. He wants to make more money without spending more. One of the things about having quality is it's rarity if everyone had a Lotus car it would not be prestigeous. Expect to pay for quality and understand it's true benefits. It says something about you to the surfer. Putting up the same old crap as eveyone else, will not put you apart. Something that is needed when there are 100,000 in the herd. Remember It's dificult to fly with the eagles if you piss like a sparrow. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	No he can keep using them, they can stay in business. It puts our clients above their clients. Audi and Saab want Fords to stay in business. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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Loch Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 7,674	it´s fucking incredible what ppl are willing to do to get a 5% discount on a set sold at 40$ Why the hell do they bother, prices are soooo freeking low already now Charley dont be to mean to them __________________ Contact us for Beta store access (4000 HD/SD productions) - Editing - Encoding/Post production ICQ - 277 862 930 E-mail casper /@/ cool-content.com

04-07-2002, 06:38 AM	#14
ZatCHICKPIXXX Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 257	ChickPixxx.com affordable adult content I am always willing to make a "deal"...... email ME directly, and say you saw thread on GFY Zara Production Manager 5 STAR PRODUCTIONS, INC. [email protected] __________________ www.chickpixxx.com NEW QUALITY AMATEUR CONTENT www.5starprod.com FIVE STAR PRODUCTIONS, INC.

04-07-2002, 06:54 AM	#15
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	I rather spend a few $$$ extra and get quality pics! Quality sells much better than those ugly 2 cents a pics __________________ Truth Teller

04-07-2002, 07:03 AM	#16
Loch Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 7,674	HAHAHA ZatCHICKPIXXX if you give out discounts there wont be a fucking thing left man __________________ Contact us for Beta store access (4000 HD/SD productions) - Editing - Encoding/Post production ICQ - 277 862 930 E-mail casper /@/ cool-content.com

04-07-2002, 12:09 PM	#17
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	Content is a marketplace like any other. If something is sold at a "too good to be true" price, there is probably a reason why. A lot of newbies will buy what seems like a bargain CD, "!000 pics only $60!" or some such. What they don't realize is that the reason the pics are so cheap is probably one or more of several reasons: 1) they are old tired content; 2) they are unauthorized pirated content; 3) they are photos used in magazines years ago; 4) they are the photos rejected by the magazines; 5) the way the seller plans on making money off the content is by selling it by the dumptruck load. Anybody who makes good content and sells it in reasonable quantities while it's still fresh is either a piss-poor businessperson or he's insane. I've taken the position from the beginning that I won't let myself become "the K-Mart of adult content." Let's face it: If you could buy a Lexus for $13.5K, everyone would have one and it would no longer be anything special. The key to success, especially for a pay site, is to have exclusive content, regularly refreshed. If you get five joins a day and every other day one of them decides to leave rebilling on because they at last have a neverending source of the kind of content they like, this is how one becomes wealthy in this business. Having the sort of stuff they can find anywhere without hardly trying is not the way to go. Either deal with a quality, but small-volume supplier (like myself), or get exclusive material made (which I also do). Otherwise, you're just another "me-too" webmaster without much prospect of getting anywhere. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.