Repetitive Monkey

It doesn't quite translate in my mind.

GFY Female: Terrible thing X happened to me. I'm emotionally hurt.
GFY Male #1: Here's $100!
GFY Male #2: Yeah, here's $500! Let's get everyone to give her money!
*choir of agreement*

It's the same pattern every time. Why do you do this when the victim is not even economically hurt, and is there reason to believe that your actions could result in more scams as people become aware that pulling one small post could result in thousands of dollars (remember the boob-job?)?

And why aren't the victims ever declining the money or hitting the brakes on large scale donation crusades? Why do some of them even encourage it by publically gaining emotional ground and saying, "it is SO appreciated, sweetiepie " for every $100 that ticks in? Were the donations at least partly to place in their judgement for posting their private situations on GFY in a time of supposed grief?

I'm not trying to be an asshole here at all, but this whole thing just seems exceedingly pointless and even pathetic.

V_RocKs

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SleazyDream

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Doctor Dre

You are making an ass of yourself right now ... Sarah isn't rich, she's posting on about everyboard I'm posting on and has been for years . Everybody knows her and her story .

Once people gave like 8k to a total stranger (a dude) that was gonna be put in the streets

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Repetitive Monkey

I'm talking about the phenomenon in general. Don't deny that this is a recurring phenomenon.

Try to argue instead of throwing insults.

xclusive

GFY is a community that has some assholes such as yourself but we are still a community and we help each other out when in a time of need if you are a legit person. I don't care if it's a guy or girl if they need my help I'd do it to the best of my ability because the stronger a community that GFY is the better we will all do...

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V_RocKs

How about this argument...

BRING THIS UP 2 MONTHS FROM NOW NEXT TIME AND I MIGHT EVEN CONSIDER IT!

But for now all you get is that you are a moron.

Repetitive Monkey

You obviously didn't read my post, turd. I am asking, why does emotional distress always translate to money around here? Why do you think that money will relieve an emotional grievance that is not rooted in financial difficulties?

Repetitive Monkey

I think it is fair to say that you are thinking with your heart instead of your brain right now. I am not attacking Sara. I ponder the phenomenon, it's causes and effects. Realize this or realize that you are a sheep.

Warden

Well Said

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Sly_RJ

This guy is actually right, in general.

Though I believe Sarah is a fine candidate for help, most of the others haven't been.

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Doctor Dre

This isn't the time when you should pop that thread out . Try helping her instead maybe

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have you been in hiding?

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Mutt

cuz some people have good hearts. would a male with the same tragedy have gotten the same outpouring of support? probably not. many people still have old fashioned values, children come first, women next, then men. and from what I know of Sarah she's not a 'hottie', so it's nice that it's just not a bunch of losers trying to score points with a hot chick.

why money? because most people need money, nobody can do anything to really help Sarah, what happened happened - the money just represents that people want to help and money is the only way most people on GFY can help, not like most of the people who gave money are close friends and are going to be visting her and helping her during this horrible time for her. So if she takes the money and gets some pleasure from buying some things for herself OR the money allows her to take more time off without creating financial problems then everybody who gave did something nice.

you can't help everybody in the world, the creeps and cynics always like to point out 'big deal, what about the million starving kids in Africa, why don't you help them, they are worse off than so and so' - can go fuck themselves, they help nobody.

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psyko514

donation crusades happen when the emotional distress causes financial distress as well. funerals can be quite costly.

and donation campaigns have happened in the past for men as well. pr0 is a recent example.

there's a difference between a slut asking for handouts for a boob job and a community donating money to a friend who's lost her husband.

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sextoyking

Why do some people always ask why?

In the old days us webmasters would get an auction going for someone, kids, charity, etc and raise 100-250k in 1 single night.

Why you ask, well because we wanted to help someone, some charity, etc out during xmas, a death, hardship.....


Sarah is one of the most helpful and friendly people that visit these boards on a regular occasion. She never once asked for money, never. Someone started something in a thread, I saw that and a couple of us went from there.

Too imagine that the day before our thanksgiving, her husband suddenly dies, she is 3000 miles away from her family in the USA, she is pretty much alone. Well she is in a world of Hurt right now.

We all just wanted to help out, and the webmasters in our community (which I have been around for 10 yrs and since the beginning of the first adult board) have really came through.

I personally thank each and every one.

Todd

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AMADude

Hey Monkey.

STFU

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mardigras

A death is not just emotional grievance, there are real financial difficulties for some. Being 3000 miles away from any family doesn't help. Glad to hear you are well off enough financially to cover the final expenses of any relatives that may die suddenly.

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Repetitive Monkey

Hey, AMADude, look at my title. I'm so far above you that we should be classified as different species.

BlueWire

This may be true is some cases...such as girls needing plastic surgery and stuff...but this is different...you're being a doosh on this one

AMADude

Your title doesnt mean shit.

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undermyspell

While I would agree that there are threads that are rediculous in asking for donations and some are downright shameless you have to remember that Sarah did not ask for this. She's been around the industry for a long time and has gotten to know many of us as we have her.

As far as financial donations not alleviating emotional distress it does in a sense do just that. Think about if all of a sudden your partner/parent/whatever died. In addition to your income you had been also receiving a disability check for this person. I'm sure her husband had pretty high medical bills due to his condition in the first place. Now, she has an unexpected hospital bill accompanied by ambulance, surgeon costs, etc. She will have funeral expenses and also i'm sure she will either return to the US now to live or at least visit her parents here for emotional support. To not have to be concerned about how to pay for these above mentioned things is a huge emotional relief and allows the person to grieve for their loss and not lose themselves in worrying about how to pay for everything.

Repetitive Monkey

I am talking about the PHENOMENON, not Sarah. Please, use your brain when posting, and also try to read what you are responding to BEFORE responding to it.

Repetitive Monkey

Case in point. Your emotional responsiveness is vastly superior to your intelligence. You are guided by your instincts and your feelings to a degree that rivals that of the lowest among the animals.

baddog

Monkey boy . . . Sarah did not ask for any help, and this is far from being a GFY thing.

Sarah is well known and liked in the entire adult community. She has been struck with a devastating event in her life, and her friends and fellow members of the community got together and decided to help her.

Please remind me that if anything ever happens to you to just piss on you.

Repetitive Monkey

And again, this is not an attack on Sarah. Please insert brain.


Unlike you and the other losers in your semi-communist circle, I would never lower myself to the position of asking anyone for financial help, so that opportunity would unfortunately never arise for you. Not that I would need it either, there are so many venues of attaining success and money in our western civilization that any idiot with some creativity and work ethics can and will rise above the scum no matter what he or she starts with.

Dynamix

I have to agree with RM on this one. While Sarah is obviously going through a lot emotionally, financially, and every other type of impact the death of a relative much less a spouse has on you, the circumstances are irrelevant. Money is always substantiated to help emotionally distraught people.

Anyone who thinks he is slighting Sarah in the least needs to think about it for two seconds before insulting him.

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Mr Pheer

Last year I got seriously injured by a hit n run driver. Couldnt work for 2 months, cost me $70k overall and I had to sell my fuckin car to make the house payments. I didnt see a dime from anyone, and believe me I really could have used the help at the time. I know I've damn sure helped other GFY'ers when in need.

Its like I said before, GFY has a secret society some people just get taken care of. Others dont, and you'll be damned if you mention anything about it.

Satisfaction

wrong time for this thread to be created...

SilverTab

well you are making the thread RIGHT AFTER the sarah donation happened.... how do you think people will react?? You're the one who's not really thinking here... so as you said...please use your brain when posting....

but i'm pretty sure you're getting the exact reaction you were looking for...you should've see it coming..after all, you're a thinker right!....

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Raven

When I first read this, I almost called you a name; but, I see you have a valid point....

Sometimes, there is a feeling of helplessness when tragedy strikes close to home.....

When you can't get to the person's house and do something for them to help...money can be construed as a gesture of caring...

It's merely a collective token of respect....a something..

I will say that it's not just the women who get an outpouring of sympathy and compassion....

I've seen guys get it, too.

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Manowar

Dude that story actually had me wanting to donate, I wish i had heard about this when it happened

smack

alot of people have had GFY donation threads. this has nothing to with the sexes at all. this is all about pulling together as a community and helping someone in their time of need.

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Repetitive Monkey

I understand that, while I disagree about the gender thing. It's the fact that it immediately translates to money around here that I think is pathetic, and cynical towards the victim.

RRRED

Several years ago, a male webmaster lost his newborn baby to sids.. a bunch of people raised some money for him... and actually it was WAY more than he probably needed.. and actually i've never seen him around since.

Anyone remember that?

broke

Yes.

I also remember MrPheer posting about his accident.

PattyeCake*

Todd, I couldn't have said it better... Our hearts are with Sarah, and during this terrible time for her, money is the last thing she should have to worry about....

Would I do the same thing for a male? I would and I have....
a persons sex has absolutely nothing to do with caring...

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Raven

What else is there?

When people experience tragedy or a life trauma...what else would you suggest?

It's not as if we are living next door so that we can offer to clean or bake a casserole....

It's an expression.

Money isn't dirty....or evil.

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codymc12

I understand that you say you're trying to bring up a point seperate from Sarah - but the fact is, timing your debate on this subject while what is happening with her IS happening is likely not the best - and you shouldn't be suprised when people question your motives.

You are welcome to your opinion re: who should or should not get donations. The nice thing about charity is that it is voluntary, and the decision on what/who you donate to is entirely subjective.

I think action is more important than words, on this subject. If you don't like a particular charitable cause - don't donate to it. If you find one you want to support - do donate to it. Why knock the charitable acts of others because you don't agree with their cause?

To me, this is like the usual debate on donating to feed hungry kids - where there are a group of people who are incensed that money is donated to feed third world nation children, but not the kids here in the U.S. Sure, you can debate it - but in the end, as it's not your money, it's really none of your business. In the end, if a child anywhere doesn't go hungry, and the money didn't come out of your pocket - how is that bad?

polish_aristocrat

The thread starter has a good point, since few months ago Lykos posted that his mother died and I haven't heard about any donations for him.

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European Lee

Are you people even reading the first post in this thread?

THIS ISNT ABOUT SARAHS CASE

It was more a generalization about the industry as a whole.

Hell i could probably reel off about 4 or 5 names that have had 1 donation thread started for them EVERY year fr the last 5 or 6.

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codymc12

Yes, I did read it. However, with the timing, as I said - he shouldn't be surprised if someone questions his motives for posting. I do - and it's not because I can't read.

European Lee

So the thread starter is supposed to wait until a month or twos time when nobody has this type of thing fresh in their minds before bringing the topic up?

I replied without giving a second thought to the motives of the poster, he stated facts, nothing else and, subsequently asked why that was the case.

Regards,

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European Lee

That has happened a few times over the last 5 or 6 years actually, someone posts an obviously false story, gets the donations rolling in then, dissapears for a year and starts the cycle over again.

As i mentioned in an early reply, im sure those of us who have been around for longer than a couple of years can all recollect at least 4 people who have done this on a regular basis in between breakdowns, familys deaths etc.

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candyflip

Great post.

What boggles my mind is the number of people here that lash out and attack out of emotion.

This thread had nothing to do with Sarah. It's a question.

Some people here really need to think before speaking and stop reacting on emotion.

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codymc12

Lee,

I'm not saying what he should or shouldn't do. I'm saying that it's unrealistic for him to expect everyone to accept it's not directed in some way at Sarah. I'm not calling him a liar. I'm just saying - when the only existing threads on this subject currently relate to Sarah - the fact that he says it's so doesn't make it so. He seems intelligent enough to have accepted this probability when he first posted.

I have been around long enough for sure to remember a number of scams. One of the earliest and more famous ones - shitman? Anyone remember that? That was probably the end of the 'heavy hitters' donating to an unfortunate webmaster. Lot of people got burned on it.

Generally speaking, my point is simply this - there is no 'fairness' in charity. People donate with their hearts, not their wallets. If they donated with their wallets - they would never donate. I mean, it makes no financial sense, does it? To give something for nothing? And there will always be scam-charities. But that shouldn't shut down all charitable actions forever.

Charitable-worthiness is entirely subjective to the person donating, IMO.

European Lee

That right there... sums GFY up in one sentence

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XxXotic

what i'm wondering is, why do you care what ANYONE here does with their money? if people wanna give someone money for whatever reason, what business is it of yours to object?

I could see if people were giving away YOUR money... but they're not. so what's the problem? upset because if it was you in that persons shoes, nobody here would piss on your gums if your teeth were on fire?

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Fizzgig

S'right.

Maybe you didn't mean any harm, but any speech, post or letter that contains the phrase, "I don't mean to be an asshole but..." should indicate to you that you're about to be one...

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. I can see your point of view... but it's WRONG!

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