An Open Question To Traffic Brokers - GoFuckYourself.com

CuriousToyBoy2 · 05-15-2004, 02:07 AM

Traffic brokers.... even against my better judgement I still sometimes test some of them, because I figure one day I may just stumble on one that may work.

I have logically always seen it this way...

If I had traffic that could make me more from sending to something myself than what I could sell it for, why the fuck would I sell it?

Over the past few years I have been "stung" by all the scams during my little phases of testing different sources:

- Paying for a bunch of hits and getting absolutely nothing sent, the straight rip off.

- Having some abacus based counting system which makes the 50k hits I paid for actually appear on my server as a LOT less.

- Checking server stats and discovering 1000's of hits from VERY similar IP ranges - gotta love a good hit bot!

- Getting some reasonable traffic and wondering what the source is, because they swore balck and blue it wasn't mail traffic... until the SPAM complaints come flooding in.

- Getting 50k sent to a gallery, landing page or somesuch and getting 20 click throughs, CJ hits are a dream aren't they?

- Finding someone half decent, getting some OK joins, making a couple of bucks and then they stop without warning (and keep your money of course!). That is the MOST annoying.

- Buying 100k and getting some nice numbers the first week. Buy another 100k a week for the next 3 weeks and getting jack shit. I call this the sucker sale.

Now over time, I have actually used 3 that were good, we communicated, they did what I paid for and they actuall answered emails and ICQ's along the way.

1 of those sent traffic that unfortunately proved unproductive for what I wanted, but that guy and I are still friends and he has his own sites and program now.

The other 2 are 2 of my best affiliates (and by best, I mean consistent as well as volume). When it became obvious that they would be making MORE than what I was paying if they were actually sending, we re-negotiated and cut a deal.

That is good business and consistent with why I think the situation is as it is - as I have described in this post.

Now it must be pointed out that I am not talking making huge numbers out of traffic broker deals, that is just not reality, but if I spend $100 on traffic and make $110, consistently on average, well a 10% return on my money is just fine thanks. It is also understood that a one hit purchase does not have statistical significance, there has to be some time over which to draw relevant averages and establish performance.

IF there are any brokers out there who want to prove me wrong, AND who are prepared to commit to a reasonable test over a reasonable time period, hit me up, because I would obviously commit for the rest of time to buying from you.

I won't hold my breath for the call.

woj · 05-15-2004, 03:06 AM

No broker is jumping on this opportunity?

StRoGE · 05-15-2004, 04:40 AM

Dont count on it.

ravo · 05-15-2004, 06:57 AM

CuriousBoyToy: I don't think we've ever done business, but I welcome your challenge. If you're looking for gay/tranny traffic, we don't really have much right now.

But, if you want to talk about some straight traffic (either clicked or console), hit me at [email protected] or ICQ 143720824, or see our sites at Buy FPCTraffic or FPCClicks

CuriousToyBoy2 · 05-15-2004, 07:04 AM

Hey Ravo,

I must say I was surprised to get ANY responses.

Thanks for sticking your hand up.

Apart from Curious Cash we also have http://www.celebsunzipped.com, but having said that, ANY gay or tranny traffic you have is better than none.

I will hit you up, let's give the test a whirl and see how we go.

Are you fine with BOTH of us responding with updates in this thread here?

I think that would be of sensational value.. win, lose or draw for either of us.

What say you?

Paul Markham · 05-15-2004, 07:27 AM

My take on broker is this. If they had such good traffic why are they always begging for business, why are they not opening their own sites, we know traffic is all you need

and lastly with the deals that sponsors are giving to affiliates why are they not signing up as affiliates? Or is it better to sell the smae traffic 100 times than send it to one sponsor.

EviLGuY · 05-15-2004, 07:51 AM

Yeah most traffic you can buy is crap. At east from brokers.. gallery spots and the like are still decent.

ravo · 05-15-2004, 07:53 AM

CuriousBoyToy: Yes, please contact me. We can discuss your specific needs, and see what kind of traffic would work for you. I don't mind the results being public. We've been publicly reviewed before, and aren't afraid of have a spotlight shined on our traffic.

Charly: I don't think you've ever bought traffic from us, so I don't think you can apply your comments to us. (However, I have bought content from you in the past!).

As a matter of fact, we keep about 50%-60% of the traffic for our own uses, so we *ARE* opening our own sites. And, for the most part, the traffic we sell is sold on a long-term basis to program operators, on continous contracts.

But, we are always on the look out for new customers, as our base of traffic continues to grow. Call that 'begging' if you want; I call it 'marketing'.

05-15-2004, 02:07 AM	#1
CuriousToyBoy2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Land Downunder Posts: 707	An Open Question To Traffic Brokers Traffic brokers.... even against my better judgement I still sometimes test some of them, because I figure one day I may just stumble on one that may work. I have logically always seen it this way... If I had traffic that could make me more from sending to something myself than what I could sell it for, why the fuck would I sell it? Over the past few years I have been "stung" by all the scams during my little phases of testing different sources: - Paying for a bunch of hits and getting absolutely nothing sent, the straight rip off. - Having some abacus based counting system which makes the 50k hits I paid for actually appear on my server as a LOT less. - Checking server stats and discovering 1000's of hits from VERY similar IP ranges - gotta love a good hit bot! - Getting some reasonable traffic and wondering what the source is, because they swore balck and blue it wasn't mail traffic... until the SPAM complaints come flooding in. - Getting 50k sent to a gallery, landing page or somesuch and getting 20 click throughs, CJ hits are a dream aren't they? - Finding someone half decent, getting some OK joins, making a couple of bucks and then they stop without warning (and keep your money of course!). That is the MOST annoying. - Buying 100k and getting some nice numbers the first week. Buy another 100k a week for the next 3 weeks and getting jack shit. I call this the sucker sale. Now over time, I have actually used 3 that were good, we communicated, they did what I paid for and they actuall answered emails and ICQ's along the way. 1 of those sent traffic that unfortunately proved unproductive for what I wanted, but that guy and I are still friends and he has his own sites and program now. The other 2 are 2 of my best affiliates (and by best, I mean consistent as well as volume). When it became obvious that they would be making MORE than what I was paying if they were actually sending, we re-negotiated and cut a deal. That is good business and consistent with why I think the situation is as it is - as I have described in this post. Now it must be pointed out that I am not talking making huge numbers out of traffic broker deals, that is just not reality, but if I spend $100 on traffic and make $110, consistently on average, well a 10% return on my money is just fine thanks. It is also understood that a one hit purchase does not have statistical significance, there has to be some time over which to draw relevant averages and establish performance. IF there are any brokers out there who want to prove me wrong, AND who are prepared to commit to a reasonable test over a reasonable time period, hit me up, because I would obviously commit for the rest of time to buying from you. I won't hold my breath for the call.

05-15-2004, 03:06 AM	#2
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05-15-2004, 04:40 AM	#3
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05-15-2004, 06:57 AM	#4
ravo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Skype: ravo.fpctraffic Posts: 5,445	CuriousBoyToy: I don't think we've ever done business, but I welcome your challenge. If you're looking for gay/tranny traffic, we don't really have much right now. But, if you want to talk about some straight traffic (either clicked or console), hit me at [email protected] or ICQ 143720824, or see our sites at Buy FPCTraffic or FPCClicks __________________ AdultAdBroker - Buy and Sell Your Flat Rate Banners, Links, Tabs, Pops, Email Clicks and Members' Area Traffic - updated Sept 2025

05-15-2004, 07:27 AM	#6
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	My take on broker is this. If they had such good traffic why are they always begging for business, why are they not opening their own sites, we know traffic is all you need and lastly with the deals that sponsors are giving to affiliates why are they not signing up as affiliates? Or is it better to sell the smae traffic 100 times than send it to one sponsor. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

05-15-2004, 07:04 AM	#5
CuriousToyBoy2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Land Downunder Posts: 707	Hey Ravo, I must say I was surprised to get ANY responses. Thanks for sticking your hand up. Apart from Curious Cash we also have http://www.celebsunzipped.com, but having said that, ANY gay or tranny traffic you have is better than none. I will hit you up, let's give the test a whirl and see how we go. Are you fine with BOTH of us responding with updates in this thread here? I think that would be of sensational value.. win, lose or draw for either of us. What say you?

05-15-2004, 07:51 AM	#7
EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	Yeah most traffic you can buy is crap. At east from brokers.. gallery spots and the like are still decent.

05-15-2004, 07:53 AM	#8
ravo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Skype: ravo.fpctraffic Posts: 5,445	CuriousBoyToy: Yes, please contact me. We can discuss your specific needs, and see what kind of traffic would work for you. I don't mind the results being public. We've been publicly reviewed before, and aren't afraid of have a spotlight shined on our traffic. Charly: I don't think you've ever bought traffic from us, so I don't think you can apply your comments to us. (However, I have bought content from you in the past!). As a matter of fact, we keep about 50%-60% of the traffic for our own uses, so we ARE opening our own sites. And, for the most part, the traffic we sell is sold on a long-term basis to program operators, on continous contracts. But, we are always on the look out for new customers, as our base of traffic continues to grow. Call that 'begging' if you want; I call it 'marketing'. __________________ AdultAdBroker - Buy and Sell Your Flat Rate Banners, Links, Tabs, Pops, Email Clicks and Members' Area Traffic - updated Sept 2025