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Old 01-07-2004, 12:06 AM   #1
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designers designers designers..
it makes me sad when a designer gets screwed....

so please, for the love of god... save yourselves a lot of hassle...
unless you're dealing with the cream of the crop in this business... GET YOUR MONEY UP FRONT AND CLEARED BEFORE YOU LIFT A FINGER...

ESPECIALLY on tit jobs from people who haggle over a couple bucks.

that is all.
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Old 01-07-2004, 12:08 AM   #2
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Old 01-07-2004, 12:11 AM   #3
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this is exactly why i thank god i only deal with private clients when i do design.

saves me tons of hassle knowing the people.
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Old 01-07-2004, 12:16 AM   #4
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Ha!
How did you know?
I got burned for over $1k in December.

Got new policy in place now though.
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Old 01-07-2004, 12:47 AM   #5
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True, lots of dirt bags out there. scamming, riffin, hagglin over pennies, then not payin...
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Old 01-07-2004, 12:49 AM   #6
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Ha!
How did you know?
I got burned for over $1k in December.

hehe.... 1k here too. Best bet is to get at least 1/3-1/2 of your estimated (if you work by hour) price, upfront. Then the rest before you fork over the files.
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Old 01-07-2004, 02:16 AM   #7
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True, lots of dirt bags out there. scamming, riffin, hagglin over pennies, then not payin...
true! lots of fuckers around...
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Old 01-07-2004, 02:17 AM   #8
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true! lots of fuckers around...
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Old 01-07-2004, 02:18 AM   #9
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Dont get sucked into design contests either...easy way for a guy to get 15 banners and pay for 1...maybe
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Old 01-07-2004, 02:31 AM   #10
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Tell me about it, guess what Jeff owes me still 400$ Guess I will never get that huh Lets make a new thread about it right now.

He is the only webmaster who ever fucked me sofar. Lets hope it is the last one.
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Old 01-07-2004, 03:25 AM   #11
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may be it make sence to create black list on some domain name?
everyone as bog can write there his situation with client

so every designer starting work with new client can check the list
and decide whether to work with him or not
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I don't design for others usually only for myself. But you wouldn't believe the fucking couple of retarded offers I got from some big name reputable people in this biz. Like one time one person offered to buy a tour from me for half price and if it converted well for a few months they would pay me my full design price. WTF? This isn't walmart there's no money back guarantee, not to mention I don't design for anyone unless it's a favor.
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Old 01-07-2004, 03:32 AM   #13
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I don't design for others usually only for myself. But you wouldn't believe the fucking couple of retarded offers I got from some big name reputable people in this biz. Like one time one person offered to buy a tour from me for half price and if it converted well for a few months they would pay me my full design price. WTF? This isn't walmart there's no money back guarantee, not to mention I don't design for anyone unless it's a favor.

lol. i've had some fairly strange offers from people as well. crazy shit.
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lol. i've had some fairly strange offers from people as well. crazy shit.
Funny thing is we are talking big name reputable people who said that shit to me. Like I'm fucking retarded when I had already lowered my paysite design price as a favor to like $800. Then tell me you want to pay half and if it converts you'll pay me full price. I said what if it doesn't convert and they didn't have much of an answer.
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Funny thing is we are talking big name reputable people who said that shit to me. Like I'm fucking retarded when I had already lowered my paysite design price as a favor to like $800. Then tell me you want to pay half and if it converts you'll pay me full price. I said what if it doesn't convert and they didn't have much of an answer.
Awesome isn't it, I know what you are talking about. Because my prices are pretty low people always think I am in need of cash quick. Guess what I am not whoring myself, I just work fast mostly lol.

I had this other design company wanting to hire me for about 1/3 of what I make per month now. When I laughed at their offer they were like oh well I thought you needed the money because of those low prices
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