New pitch: As an affiliate, would you choose ccBill or Verotel ? - GoFuckYourself.com

Adult Site Traffic · 01-06-2004, 11:03 AM

Given the choice upon signing up to promote a program as an affiliate, would you choose a ccBill payment option or choose to get paid through Verotel ?

Why ?

Mr. Mojo Risin · 01-06-2004, 11:08 AM

verotel.. no startup costs

JSA Matt · 01-06-2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Mr. Mojo Risin
verotel.. no startup costs

as an AFFILIATE, I would choose ccbill. It has been around long enough to have gained my trust. I've never even used Verotel before..

pradaboy · 01-06-2004, 11:09 AM

ccbill but that's coz I never used verotel

pornanza · 01-06-2004, 12:21 PM

ccbill without a doubt

ryan

Kevin2 · 01-06-2004, 01:47 PM

I use both and Verotel converts better.

Paparazzi · 01-06-2004, 01:52 PM

have more trust in ccbill... and I like that you can merge accounts also, not sure about if you can do that with verotel

ZoiNk · 01-06-2004, 01:53 PM

CCbill, I don't trust verotel. I trust CCbill to be here in a year. Verotel I give 6 months.
ZoiNk

Paparazzi · 01-06-2004, 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by Kevin2
I use both and Verotel converts better.

yeah, but you might end up with more cb

JulieJolie · 01-06-2004, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by Paparazzi
yeah, but you might end up with more cb

I've made more money with my verotel affilates than the ccbill ones and to date not one charge back (knock on wood!)

arial · 01-06-2004, 02:09 PM

ccBill cause I've never used Verotel.

salo18 · 01-06-2004, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Kevin2
I use both and Verotel converts better.

XxXotic · 01-06-2004, 02:15 PM

C : None of the Above

faxxaff · 01-06-2004, 02:22 PM

verotel sites convert much better. Might be because they have more billing options. The affiliate interface and nonexstant customerservice of verotel really sucks, ccbill is much better for this.

bdld · 01-06-2004, 02:25 PM

verotel b/c i've never used ccbill

spooky181 · 01-06-2004, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by Paparazzi
yeah, but you might end up with more cb

Chargebacks are not a problem. My sales with Verotel compared to scrubbill are truckloads better. If you want to make considerably less money as an affiliate then stick with ccbill..

SoundMan · 01-06-2004, 03:36 PM

ibill

JulieJolie · 01-06-2004, 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by Paparazzi
have more trust in ccbill... and I like that you can merge accounts also, not sure about if you can do that with verotel

Yes you can merge them , when signing up click "I'm already a reseller"

Adult Site Traffic · 01-06-2004, 05:47 PM

Interesting information.

I am really appreciating all of your feedback. Thank you.

advrice · 01-07-2004, 02:16 AM

To all people out here voting for CCBill without ever trying Verotel. Why don't you set up an account and give it a try... can always come in handy as back up...

Check the link below!

xxxoutsourcing · 01-07-2004, 02:44 AM

We use verotel as our back up and on some sites the main processor they are pretty good.

smproduction · 01-07-2004, 02:52 AM

CCBill and Verotel??? No doubts CCBill, they are the best around also for affiliates.

lock · 01-07-2004, 02:56 AM

Verotel but have ccbill as a secondary as the future of internet billing is always uncertain.best not put all eggs in one basket

flashfire · 01-07-2004, 03:08 AM

CCbill so I could shave your asses bald...just kidding Verotel

[Brian] · 01-07-2004, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XxXotic
C : None of the Above

liquidmoe · 01-07-2004, 04:23 AM

I'd say CCBill even with the shaving at least they publicly display the information, so a quick check and you know who's on the up and up and who's not. Sponsors who decide to shave and dont know this information will eventually get revealled and have their programs go through a shit storm as a result, so if anything it may actually help to uncover a few more shavers, rather than keep them hidden.

jawanda · 01-07-2004, 04:35 AM

Cracks me up to hear so many people saying "I give Verotel 6 months" and shit like that.

They are a rock solid company, and worst case scenario, they end up being forced to comply with the $750 rule. I think they have enough big clients to survive it.

People keep saying "enjoy your great conversions while they last". But how about "Enjoy your great conversions, and when the shit hits the fan you'll have to pay $750, but you'll still get great conversions". It won't be the end of the world for Verotel.

-P

arial · 01-07-2004, 04:36 AM

Neck and neck right now (18-18) lets see how it turns out.

Carrie · 01-07-2004, 04:41 AM

Verotel's interface sucks balls, CCBill's is slow but rocks (especially with the new info).

OTOH, CCBill's scrubbing puts Brillo to shame, so you get less signups.

OneHungLo · 01-07-2004, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Mojo Risin
verotel.. no startup costs

and we all know what happened to all those other processors that didn't have those 750.00 visa fee's

Mr. Mojo Risin · 01-07-2004, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OneHungLo

and we all know what happened to all those other processors that didn't have those 750.00 visa fee's

so can't they just charge merchants the $750 then if that ever happens?

Mr. Mojo Risin · 01-07-2004, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jawanda
Cracks me up to hear so many people saying "I give Verotel 6 months" and shit like that.

They are a rock solid company, and worst case scenario, they end up being forced to comply with the $750 rule. I think they have enough big clients to survive it.

People keep saying "enjoy your great conversions while they last". But how about "Enjoy your great conversions, and when the shit hits the fan you'll have to pay $750, but you'll still get great conversions". It won't be the end of the world for Verotel.

-P

exactly

SENSEX · 01-07-2004, 06:05 AM

Verotel does not scrub nearly as hard as CCbill, and yet CB's are extremely low. If you choose not to use them because you think they wont be around in 6/mo then just milk it for the next six months. I think they will be around for a while since they do not deal with any U.S. banks whatsover. But these days...who knows.

gxer · 01-07-2004, 06:16 AM

Verotel
cause Verotel converts MUCH better.

polish_aristocrat · 01-07-2004, 06:17 AM

PSW billing also wasn't scrubbing hard.

01-06-2004, 11:03 AM	#1
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01-06-2004, 11:09 AM	#4
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01-06-2004, 12:21 PM	#5
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01-06-2004, 01:47 PM	#6
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01-06-2004, 01:52 PM	#7
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01-06-2004, 11:08 AM	#2
Mr. Mojo Risin Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the middle of nowhere Posts: 1,886	verotel.. no startup costs

01-06-2004, 01:53 PM	#8
ZoiNk Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,370	CCbill, I don't trust verotel. I trust CCbill to be here in a year. Verotel I give 6 months. ZoiNk __________________ "People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry Ford

01-06-2004, 02:09 PM	#11
arial Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bay Area Posts: 4,012	ccBill cause I've never used Verotel.

01-06-2004, 02:15 PM	#13
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01-06-2004, 02:22 PM	#14
faxxaff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marina Hemingway Posts: 2,134	verotel sites convert much better. Might be because they have more billing options. The affiliate interface and nonexstant customerservice of verotel really sucks, ccbill is much better for this. __________________ Asian Babes

01-06-2004, 02:25 PM	#15
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	verotel b/c i've never used ccbill

01-06-2004, 03:36 PM	#17
SoundMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MidWest Posts: 3,471	ibill

01-06-2004, 05:47 PM	#19
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	Interesting information. I am really appreciating all of your feedback. Thank you. __________________ ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me! Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here } .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

01-07-2004, 02:16 AM	#20
advrice Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 23	To all people out here voting for CCBill without ever trying Verotel. Why don't you set up an account and give it a try... can always come in handy as back up... Check the link below! __________________ <a href="http://links.verotel.com/cgi-bin/make_link.verotel?verotel_id=9804000000379312"> <img border=0 src="http://www.verotel.com/gfx/button.gif"></a>

01-07-2004, 02:44 AM	#21
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01-07-2004, 02:52 AM	#22
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01-07-2004, 02:56 AM	#23
lock Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 5,065	Verotel but have ccbill as a secondary as the future of internet billing is always uncertain.best not put all eggs in one basket __________________ Traffic.Tools - 40+ Free Tools Free.Marketing - 150+ Free Tools Submission.Tools - 20+ Free Tools

01-07-2004, 03:08 AM	#24
flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	CCbill so I could shave your asses bald...just kidding Verotel

01-07-2004, 04:23 AM	#26
liquidmoe Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 4,994	I'd say CCBill even with the shaving at least they publicly display the information, so a quick check and you know who's on the up and up and who's not. Sponsors who decide to shave and dont know this information will eventually get revealled and have their programs go through a shit storm as a result, so if anything it may actually help to uncover a few more shavers, rather than keep them hidden. __________________ Take Luck!

01-07-2004, 04:35 AM	#27
jawanda Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,040	Cracks me up to hear so many people saying "I give Verotel 6 months" and shit like that. They are a rock solid company, and worst case scenario, they end up being forced to comply with the $750 rule. I think they have enough big clients to survive it. People keep saying "enjoy your great conversions while they last". But how about "Enjoy your great conversions, and when the shit hits the fan you'll have to pay $750, but you'll still get great conversions". It won't be the end of the world for Verotel. -P

01-07-2004, 04:36 AM	#28
arial Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bay Area Posts: 4,012	Neck and neck right now (18-18) lets see how it turns out.

01-07-2004, 04:41 AM	#29
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	Verotel's interface sucks balls, CCBill's is slow but rocks (especially with the new info). OTOH, CCBill's scrubbing puts Brillo to shame, so you get less signups.

01-07-2004, 06:05 AM	#33
SENSEX Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Someplace Special Posts: 1,159	Verotel does not scrub nearly as hard as CCbill, and yet CB's are extremely low. If you choose not to use them because you think they wont be around in 6/mo then just milk it for the next six months. I think they will be around for a while since they do not deal with any U.S. banks whatsover. But these days...who knows.

01-07-2004, 06:16 AM	#34
gxer Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location Posts: 846	Verotel cause Verotel converts MUCH better.

01-07-2004, 06:17 AM	#35
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	PSW billing also wasn't scrubbing hard. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.