What do Americans really think. - GoFuckYourself.com

LadyMischief · 09-30-2003, 11:16 AM

Now I heard someone say the other day that Al Queda was gone. I'm just wondering if this is what average Americans think. Opinions? I'm curious

Fu-Q · 09-30-2003, 11:17 AM

fuck no, that may be what the media wants us to think but there is no way they are gone

candyflip · 09-30-2003, 11:17 AM

They're not gone. Just regrouping for what we might someday call "October Surprise Part II".

WebTitan · 09-30-2003, 11:17 AM

if they do, then they should pull their heads out of the sand...so to speak...

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 11:18 AM

Why would you think one persons opinion represents all of america?

Half the people on this board dont vote, and are not involved and their opinions dont count anyway.

LadyMischief · 09-30-2003, 11:19 AM

I'm sort of wondering too what people who believe this think is behind the whole Guantanimo Bay thing going on.. with the espionage and whatnot. I'm glad not everyone is letting themselves be lulled into false security

LadyMischief · 09-30-2003, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Why would you think one persons opinion represents all of america?

Half the people on this board dont vote, and are not involved and their opinions dont count anyway.

I don't think that typifies all Americans.. but I am just sort of wondering how many Americans DO feel the same.

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Now I heard someone say the other day that Al Queda was gone. I'm just wondering if this is what average Americans think. Opinions? I'm curious

What do you consider "average"?

Sly_RJ · 09-30-2003, 11:21 AM

Of course they aren't gone. I'm having them over for dinner tonight.

directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 11:22 AM

Most americans don't think....

They just repeat.

Neriah Davis · 09-30-2003, 11:22 AM

Americans who buy into the brainwashing media here may believe it, but those who actually read/watch the foreign press aren't that ignorant

just a punk · 09-30-2003, 11:22 AM

Al Queda can't gone so easy. CIA spent a lot of time to create this organization. Don't forget that Osama bin Laden was very successful agent of CIA. I think he took a training there...

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 11:22 AM

http://www.americasdebate.com

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

What do you consider "average"?

nm. Covered above.

And the answer to your question is no. Just for starters Osama is still alive and even if he were dead there would still be al Qaeda.

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 11:24 AM

BTW, RAISE THE FIST is a local org only blocks from me.

Give them a look.

THAT is how MANY Americans feel.

http://www.raisethefist.com/index1.html

may load slow.

Probono · 09-30-2003, 11:25 AM

Many Americans have no time to think, they are torn between feeding their families, paying rent or mortgage payement, paying off credit card debt, shopping to pump up the economy, paying for health insurance and watching football.

They let King George think for them and every 4 years about 50% of us might remember to vote for the next president who can do out thinking for us.

shame isn't it

candyflip · 09-30-2003, 11:26 AM

Fletch, I'm just reading into it now...but why was that site's webmaster jailed?

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 11:27 AM

FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

LadyMischief · 09-30-2003, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

What do you consider "average"?

Just the working Joe, someone who watches the news, reads the newspapers.. that kind of person..

directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 11:27 AM

Al Quaeda feeds of the American Imperialism ... so it will survive for quite a long time.

just a punk · 09-30-2003, 11:27 AM

Just recalled Rembo III where magnificent Sly helps good Afghan people (such as Osama and his butchers) to fight against bad Russian guys... He helps force out Russians and lets Al Queda some time to prepare for their terrorist attack on NY.

Adorno · 09-30-2003, 11:27 AM

You make one very large very wrong assumption. That being that the average American "thinks".

You want to know what the average American is "thinking"? Turn on the TV. The culture industry feeds them 24 hours a day with what to think. Just go to the source and bypass the vapid interpretations of a soulless consumer.

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by candyflip
Fletch, I'm just reading into it now...but why was that site's webmaster jailed?

http://la.indymedia.org/features/Raise_The_Fist/

footsex · 09-30-2003, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
Most americans don't think....

They just repeat.

And what do Canadians do besides take up space?

candyflip · 09-30-2003, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

FROM SHERMAN AUSTIN:

On Jan 24, 2002 , my home was surrounded and raided by approximately 25 heavily armed FBI and Secret Service agents in one of the governments first attempts to exercise the new US Patriot Act. I was interrogated for several hours while they ransacked my room and they seized a network of computers which I used to run my web site raisethefist.com. They also seized protest signs, and political literature. Their excuse was a protest guide (which I didn't author) that was posted to my site which a small portion contained information on explosives. The FBI had been monitoring the site long before this was ever posted, and long before Sept 11. The "explosives information" on my site (again which I didn't author) doesn't compare to what you an find on any other web sites such as howthingswork.com, Loompanics.com, Bombshock.com, Totse.com, Amazon.com, or the many neo nazi web sites which cover everything from assassinations, explosives, fraud and firearms. It's obvious a web surfer interested in making a bomb or taking part in other extra-illegal activities would not have to rely on Raisethefist.com. So how could the "bomb making information" on raisethefist.com be a concern to authorities? It wasn't a concern, it was simply used an excuse to exercise the new Patriot Act and take down the site. And that's what they did when federal agents spent 5-6 hours interrogating me while they disassembled each computer one by one , mirrored each hard drive, then loaded everything into a big white truck. During this whole process I was told I wasn't going to be arrested, and that I could even leave if I wanted to. Once the agents finished packing everything up, Special Agent John I. Pi, who was conducting the investigation and raid said that I had crossed a line, and as long as I got back on the other side of that line I'd be okay.

A week later despite what happened I still continued with my plans to attend the demonstration against the World Economic Forum in NY. As I was waiting for the march to begin, a swarm of NYPD officers rushed straight at me and scooped up about 26 people, one of which was me. We sat on a bus for 7 hours before being taken to Brooklyn Navy Yard Jail. I was there for about 30 hours before I was taken out of my cell and put into a backroom in handcuffs and interrogated once again by the FBI and Secret Service for several hours. They asked me questions such as if I was a terrorist or involved in any terrorist organizations. During the interrogation I noticed more and more agents walking through the room. I was told I wouldn't leave custody unless they searched my car. I said I had nothing to hide and simply wanted to go home. Stressed and aggravated, I signed over my keys. A few minutes later I was driven to the court and released. As I was waiting for someone to pick me up, about 5 FBI agents entered the court and said I was arrested for "distribution of information related to explosives over the internet". One of the agents grabbed my neck and told me to shut the fuck up while I tried to tell one of the legal observers I was being arrested. I was hurried out of the court house into a black SUV where I was driven to a federal building. I was then taken to lower Manhattan MCC maximum security 24 hour lockdown federal jail facility. At my bail hearing the FBI called me a "man on a mission" and said I drove 3,000 miles to carry out my alleged "plot". The judge said I was a "threat to the community" and denied me bail, and I was to be extradited back to California to face my charges. After 11 days I was shackled and taken to an airforce base where federal inmates are boarded onto planes surrounded by guards with M16's and shot guns, like prisoners of war, and flown to a federal jail "hub" in Oklahoma. Once I got there, I learned the next day that the prosecutors decided not to file an indictment. I was released after spending 13 days in custody. When I got back to Los Angeles I put raisethefist.com back up almost immediately. I continued my political organizing within the community, as well as my work with Raise the Fist which developed into a Direct Action Network with chapters setup around the world. 6 months later prosecutors contacted my lawyer and said they found nothing to prosecute me for on my computers, but didn't want to "let me off the hook". They offered me a pre-indictment binding plea agreement which was initially 1 month in jail, and 5 months in a "community corrections facility". I rejected the plea at first, wanting to go to trial until we discovered the case was eligible for a terrorism enhancement, which could have added 20 years to my sentence.

I therefore decided to enter a plea. I played months of legal limbo until I finally expected to get sentenced to 4 months in jail and 4 months in a community corrections facility based on the final pre-sentencing report written by the USPO. The judge rejected the 4 months saying what kind of an example would it set for "future revolutionaries" wanting to act in the same manner. He stated he wanted to give me at least 8-10 months but first wanted the opinion of the Justice Department and the Director of the FBI in Washington, DC (Robert Muller). My sentencing was rescheduled several times until August 4th. I was convicted for felony; distribution of information related to explosives with intent, and sentenced to 1 year in federal prison with 3 years supervised release.

Distribution of information related to explosives is not illegal.. What's illegal is the INTENT part. They have to prove you have intent to use the information to cause further crime of violence .. and how do they prove intent? I think Bush made it clear when he said "you're either with me or against me".

Remember, fascism and a police state doesn't come all at once, it comes piece by piece. How far will we allow it go until we are all locked up in concentration camps.

If we don't take matters into our own hands and do something about this now, then we are already prisoners of war.

Raisethefist.com is not shutting down, and the RTF Direct Action Network will continue to grow and remain active. A 1 year sentence is not the end of this. It's just the begining.

grogan · 09-30-2003, 11:32 AM

The average opinion of Americans:

My girls name is Senora
I tell you friends I adore her
And when she dances o' brother
She's a hurricane in all types of weather

Jump in the line, rock your body in time.

OK, I believe you.

Shake shake shake Senora, shake your body line.

Shake shake shake Senora, shake it all the time.

directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by footsex

And what do Canadians do besides take up space?

Read.... Big effort, but maybe worth it...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=180576

BTW, why does Bush REPEAT over and over the same things .... ???

Answer: he figured it out....

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by candyflip

If we don't take matters into our own hands and do something about this now, then we are already prisoners of war.

Hey Candyflip, and the guy lived not far from me.

Talk about scary.

Voice your opinion and get locked up and have your home raided and all hard drives mirrored and searched by the feds.

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
Most americans don't think....

They just repeat.

Look who's talking. You're a parrot of your local news and neighbors. Somehow you think the information age has skipped the country that most contributed to it. American media is much more diversified than yours.

directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

Look who's talking. You're a parrot of your local news and neighbors. Somehow you think the information age has skipped the country that most contributed to it. American media is much more diversified than yours.

LOL!!!!!!!

Didn't the USA censored the broadcast of the US prisonners of war????

WE didn't... in fact no other countries did...

You normally post interesting stuff, but this time you fell at the bottom of the bucket: desesperation????

BTW, I rarely post my " local " news....

LadyMischief · 09-30-2003, 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by Adorno
You make one very large very wrong assumption. That being that the average American "thinks".

You want to know what the average American is "thinking"? Turn on the TV. The culture industry feeds them 24 hours a day with what to think. Just go to the source and bypass the vapid interpretations of a soulless consumer.

If I was making an assumption, I wouldn't have asked. I would have ASSUMED that this was what everyone thought and been done with it.

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 11:45 AM

When americans show what they think the white supremisits and the rest of the ALLOWED HATE GROUPS come after you.

http://italy.indymedia.org/news/2003/09/386907.php

Death Threats for a website.

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 11:46 AM

'Sherman is a non-violent offender. He is only twenty years of age and has been evaluated by a court-appointed psychologist as being completely non-violent and idealistic. A county detention facility is not the place for a non-violent offender who is in danger of being killed for his color and beliefs.'

'THIS IS ONE OF THE POSTS THREATENING HIS LIFE:

One of the highlights of my days are coming to this site and seeing the post about Sherman Austin's sentence. Now he's trapped, ready for the murdering by his inmates, in which many of my colleagues are unfortunatly participating in. One more of your "revolutionaries" has been taken from you all. That is a sign of your weakness. My colleagues are there because they showed no weakness. I read that in Texas, a ****** approached one of my fellow party members, threatening him, and when the first punch was thrown the pigs arrived, taking my fellow party member away for fighting. All though he didn't through the punch, he was still arrested. What I find is funny is two days later the ******s were found shot to death in their homes, along with their ****** families, shows what ******s are. Dumb. Thinking they could get away. But the man arrested is still there, waiting for some black pride or "anarchist" to come along his path, possibly the same prison as little ol' sherman. Good Luck old pal. It's also quite sad I have to put Austin's name up to be considered relevant. FUCK YOU N*****S.
Hail Hitler
Himmler '

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

LOL!!!!!!!

Just pointing out your normal simple assumptions and errors.

What, do you just think all we have in the US is FOX and CNN?

Wow. Amazing. Did you know we even have very liberal non-profit news stations here in the US? Yeah, somehow the world's leader in the information age only has CNN and FOX. Simple boy.

LadyMischief · 09-30-2003, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

Just pointing out your normal simple assumptions and errors.

What, do you just think all we have in the US is FOX and CNN?

Wow. Amazing. Did you know we even have very liberal non-profit news stations here in the US? Yeah, somehow the world's leader in the information age only has CNN and FOX. Simple boy.

But we are not limited to only a few news institutions either, and I find that our news tends to encompass more world events than most people would think. Not much really DOES happen in Canada, but assuming your news is more diverse would likely be a mistake on your part. Come watch our news for a few weeks.. I think you would find it diverse, relevant, and fairly unbiased.

directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

Just pointing out your normal simple assumptions and errors.

What, do you just think all we have in the US is FOX and CNN?

Wow. Amazing. Did you know we even have very liberal non-profit news stations here in the US? Yeah, somehow the world's leader in the information age only has CNN and FOX. Simple boy.

That's your answer????

How can you know what I have access to???
Do you have access to French News, English News, USA news....

I have, aside from my LOCAL news, access to all DTV, along with the web...

We have both arab stations here ( Al-Jezera, which was banned in the US and now banned in an Arab country : Iraq).

If you have nothing intelligent to say, SHUT UP.

69% of americans beleive that Saddam is "behind" 9/11 ... THEY REPEAT ... or you are telling me that they actually used their brain and manage to think that???

LadyMischief · 09-30-2003, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

That's your answer????

How can you know what I have access to???
Do you have access to French News, English News, USA news....

I have, aside from my LOCAL news, access to all DTV, along with the web...

We have both arab stations here ( Al-Jezera, which was banned in the US and now banned in an Arab country : Iraq).

If you have nothing intelligent to say, SHUT UP.

69% of americans beleive that Saddam is "behind" 9/11 ... THEY REPEAT ... or you are telling me that they actually used their brain and manage to think that???

I would certainly hope that Americans aren't actually convinced that Saddam was the mastermind behind 9/11! Apparently, they've forgotten Osama and what he's capable of, then.

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

69% of americans beleive that Saddam is "behind" 9/11

From 'What Do Americans think' to 'Canadians and Americans comparing news sources.'

Anyway, got a link for this stat?

just a punk · 09-30-2003, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
69% of americans beleive that Saddam is "behind" 9/11 ...

That's correct. This is just an lack of objective information and low average level of education. Most part of the US people even have no idea who Osama bin Laden is, where he was trained and who gave him the power etc... Sad but true

JamesK · 09-30-2003, 12:03 PM

they love hot dogs

candyflip · 09-30-2003, 12:05 PM

Average Americans think that polls suck and wonder why 99% of them have never participated in any of the polls they read about.

eatapeach · 09-30-2003, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

What, do you just think all we have in the US is FOX and CNN?

Wow. Amazing. Did you know we even have very liberal non-profit news stations here in the US?

c'mon colin. you know that 95% of americans couldn't find pacifica or any other non-corporate media unless they made a serious effort. what are the chances of that happening?

that same 95% gets all of their news and information from corporate entities such as CNN / FOX / ABC / NBC / CBS . for all the talk about a "liberal media" its just that: talk.

i could go out into the local mall tonight and ask 500 people to name the alternatives to corporate media and i bet not one of them would say anything other that "npr", which itself is a cruel joke being played on "intellectuals".

directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Anyway, got a link for this stat?

Yet, a new poll found that nearly 70 percent of respondents believed the Iraqi leader probably was personally involved. Rumsfeld said, "I've not seen any indication that would lead me to believe that I could say that."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/09/17/sprj.irq.bush.ap/

CNN. is that OK???? not my LOCAL news....

Poll was published by the Washington Post. I really wont dig more.

directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by candyflip
have never participated in any of the polls they read about.

Maybe they did, but didn't realize it.

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 12:14 PM

So CNN refers to one poll and thats 'the most accurate count.'

buahaha

I havent watched CNN since Sept 11th

and I dont believe a damn thing they say.

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief

But we are not limited to only a few news institutions either, and I find that our news tends to encompass more world events than most people would think. Not much really DOES happen in Canada, but assuming your news is more diverse would likely be a mistake on your part. Come watch our news for a few weeks.. I think you would find it diverse, relevant, and fairly unbiased.

I have Newsworld International owned by the Canadian Broadcasting Company. I find it extremely biased against the US. The Canadian pieces are like listening to Direct Fiesta read the news. Those oh, so careful adjectives that insult the US administration, the usual epithets, selective interviews. Uh huh.

Ahh, I don't really claim that the US media is more diverse than Canadian. I imagine it is quiet the same in diversity but thought I'd get under directfiesta's skin since it's so easy. ;-) He always seems to think Americans only hear positive news about the US which is absurd. Reporters gets Pulitzers for breaking news against government, not for it.

Well, the mainstream channels we have are FOX, CNN, and MSNBC which you already know. We also have CSPAN and CSPAN2 which cover both American Houses and non-american ones at times too (British House of Commons). PBS is always good. Jim Lehrer news hour is excellent.

Directfiesta mentioned British news. I watch BBC World News and
ITV.

We have a very liberal channel "LINK TV" which bills itself as "alternative". Pretty interesting channel with news from middle east, etc.

I don't get news from France but of course not many people here speak French. This isn't Quebec. I live in Miami so we do get dozens of spanish stations but I don't know Spanish.

I can order channels in Russian and many other languages but only speak German and that's not an option. Wish it were. I need to brush up on mine.

And of course, most of the news Direct Fiesta gets all excited about is written by American journalists. Probably most of the books he reads (history, politics, and so forth) are written in the US. And of course, we have an unreal number of books and magazines published from every possible perspective.

eatapeach · 09-30-2003, 12:15 PM

Polls Find Americans Believe Hussein Linked to 9/11, Support War in Iraq

"WASHINGTON (Talon News) -- Most Americans believe Saddam Hussein, the ousted president of Iraq, was connected to the attacks on the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, according to a new poll released on Saturday.

The Washington Post found that 69 percent of all Americans believe that Hussein worked with al Qaeda leader Usama bin Laden to carry out terrorist plans nearly two years ago. In fact, the poll found that even a majority Democrats and independents believe Hussein was a key player."

GOP USA

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 12:16 PM

So again, ONE POLL taken by some newspaper a bajillion miles from reality and thats how americans feel?

jesus christ, i rather hear about priests fucking more boys than hear this crap

hahaha

Sarah_Jayne · 09-30-2003, 12:19 PM

there really isn't an 'average' american and there isn't a collective thought.

LadyMischief · 09-30-2003, 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by eatapeach
Polls Find Americans Believe Hussein Linked to 9/11, Support War in Iraq

"WASHINGTON (Talon News) -- Most Americans believe Saddam Hussein, the ousted president of Iraq, was connected to the attacks on the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, according to a new poll released on Saturday.

The Washington Post found that 69 percent of all Americans believe that Hussein worked with al Qaeda leader Usama bin Laden to carry out terrorist plans nearly two years ago. In fact, the poll found that even a majority Democrats and independents believe Hussein was a key player."

GOP USA

Unfortunately what most people don't realize is that Saddam not being around isn't goign to change things for Osama one fucking bit. He's STILL going to make his next attempt bigger and "better" than 9/11, and the false sense of security people are getting from thinking the job is "done" is going to play the American people RIGHT into Osama's hands.

09-30-2003, 11:16 AM	#1
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	What do Americans really think. Now I heard someone say the other day that Al Queda was gone. I'm just wondering if this is what average Americans think. Opinions? I'm curious __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

09-30-2003, 11:17 AM	#3
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	They're not gone. Just regrouping for what we might someday call "October Surprise Part II". __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

09-30-2003, 11:18 AM	#5
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Why would you think one persons opinion represents all of america? Half the people on this board dont vote, and are not involved and their opinions dont count anyway. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

09-30-2003, 11:19 AM	#6
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	I'm sort of wondering too what people who believe this think is behind the whole Guantanimo Bay thing going on.. with the espionage and whatnot. I'm glad not everyone is letting themselves be lulled into false security __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

09-30-2003, 11:21 AM	#9
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09-30-2003, 11:17 AM	#2
Fu-Q Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,546	fuck no, that may be what the media wants us to think but there is no way they are gone

09-30-2003, 11:17 AM	#4
WebTitan Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western NY Posts: 5,114	if they do, then they should pull their heads out of the sand...so to speak...

09-30-2003, 11:22 AM	#10
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,687	Most americans don't think.... They just repeat. __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

09-30-2003, 11:22 AM	#11
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09-30-2003, 11:22 AM	#12
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,386	Al Queda can't gone so easy. CIA spent a lot of time to create this organization. Don't forget that Osama bin Laden was very successful agent of CIA. I think he took a training there... __________________ Obey the Cowgod

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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	http://www.americasdebate.com __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

09-30-2003, 11:24 AM	#15
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	BTW, RAISE THE FIST is a local org only blocks from me. Give them a look. THAT is how MANY Americans feel. http://www.raisethefist.com/index1.html may load slow. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

09-30-2003, 11:25 AM	#16
Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	Many Americans have no time to think, they are torn between feeding their families, paying rent or mortgage payement, paying off credit card debt, shopping to pump up the economy, paying for health insurance and watching football. They let King George think for them and every 4 years about 50% of us might remember to vote for the next president who can do out thinking for us. shame isn't it

09-30-2003, 11:26 AM	#17
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	Fletch, I'm just reading into it now...but why was that site's webmaster jailed? __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

09-30-2003, 11:27 AM	#18
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09-30-2003, 11:27 AM	#22
Adorno So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 303	You make one very large very wrong assumption. That being that the average American "thinks". You want to know what the average American is "thinking"? Turn on the TV. The culture industry feeds them 24 hours a day with what to think. Just go to the source and bypass the vapid interpretations of a soulless consumer.

09-30-2003, 11:32 AM	#26
grogan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 2,284	The average opinion of Americans: My girls name is Senora I tell you friends I adore her And when she dances o' brother She's a hurricane in all types of weather Jump in the line, rock your body in time. OK, I believe you. Shake shake shake Senora, shake your body line. Shake shake shake Senora, shake it all the time.

09-30-2003, 11:45 AM	#32
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	When americans show what they think the white supremisits and the rest of the ALLOWED HATE GROUPS come after you. http://italy.indymedia.org/news/2003/09/386907.php Death Threats for a website. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

09-30-2003, 11:46 AM	#33
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	'Sherman is a non-violent offender. He is only twenty years of age and has been evaluated by a court-appointed psychologist as being completely non-violent and idealistic. A county detention facility is not the place for a non-violent offender who is in danger of being killed for his color and beliefs.' 'THIS IS ONE OF THE POSTS THREATENING HIS LIFE: One of the highlights of my days are coming to this site and seeing the post about Sherman Austin's sentence. Now he's trapped, ready for the murdering by his inmates, in which many of my colleagues are unfortunatly participating in. One more of your "revolutionaries" has been taken from you all. That is a sign of your weakness. My colleagues are there because they showed no weakness. I read that in Texas, a **** approached one of my fellow party members, threatening him, and when the first punch was thrown the pigs arrived, taking my fellow party member away for fighting. All though he didn't through the punch, he was still arrested. What I find is funny is two days later the **s were found shot to death in their homes, along with their ** families, shows what **s are. Dumb. Thinking they could get away. But the man arrested is still there, waiting for some black pride or "anarchist" to come along his path, possibly the same prison as little ol' sherman. Good Luck old pal. It's also quite sad I have to put Austin's name up to be considered relevant. FUCK YOU N*S. Hail Hitler Himmler ' __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me**

09-30-2003, 12:03 PM	#40
JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	they love hot dogs __________________ M3Server - NATS Hosting

09-30-2003, 12:05 PM	#41
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	Average Americans think that polls suck and wonder why 99% of them have never participated in any of the polls they read about. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

09-30-2003, 12:14 PM	#45
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	So CNN refers to one poll and thats 'the most accurate count.' buahaha I havent watched CNN since Sept 11th and I dont believe a damn thing they say. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

09-30-2003, 12:15 PM	#47
eatapeach Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: toto's doghouse Posts: 493	Polls Find Americans Believe Hussein Linked to 9/11, Support War in Iraq "WASHINGTON (Talon News) -- Most Americans believe Saddam Hussein, the ousted president of Iraq, was connected to the attacks on the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, according to a new poll released on Saturday. The Washington Post found that 69 percent of all Americans believe that Hussein worked with al Qaeda leader Usama bin Laden to carry out terrorist plans nearly two years ago. In fact, the poll found that even a majority Democrats and independents believe Hussein was a key player." GOP USA

09-30-2003, 12:16 PM	#48
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	So again, ONE POLL taken by some newspaper a bajillion miles from reality and thats how americans feel? jesus christ, i rather hear about priests fucking more boys than hear this crap hahaha __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

09-30-2003, 12:19 PM	#49
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	there really isn't an 'average' american and there isn't a collective thought.