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Old 07-02-2018, 11:26 AM   #1
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Simply having the largest emotional outburst in the room doesn't make you more right on issues or your understanding of them.

New polling proves President Trump is right — 'Americans are #Dreamers, too'

A new left-leaning poll proves the point President Donald Trump made at his State of the Union address: “Americans are dreamers, too.”

According to a Harvard University-Harris Poll, a majority of Americans actually agree with not only one but all of Trump’s immigration proposals.

A stunning 65 percent of Americans support a DACA deal that ends chain migration, eliminates the random visa lottery and secures the border with a wall. Only 35 percent of Americans did not agree.

Nearly 70 percent of Americans oppose the visa lottery which allows immigrants to be picked at random for entry into the country.

In fact, nearly 80 percent of Americans believe that immigration should be based on merit and skills, not just family ties.

Even more interesting, the poll shows that 60 percent of Americans believe that even if dreamers are allowed to stay, they should not be given preference to bring relatives to the United States.

When faced with a choice, nearly 80 percent want secure borders rather than open borders.


Specifically, 61 percent think that current border security is inadequate
, and more than half of Americans — 54 percent — support a physical barrier along the southern U.S. border. This is particularly bad news for democrats such as Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) who recently reneged on funding the border wall.

The shocking poll underscores the progress Trump has made in his push for immigration reform. When he launched his bid for president, a Pew Research Center pollshowed that only 46 percent of Americans supported a border wall. In 2016, The Washington Post even poked fun at Trump for actually making the border wall less popular at just 36 percent but no that is no longer the case, either. The rise in poll numbers shows Trump’s persistence on the issue finally pays dividends.

The recent Harvard-Harris poll showing Americans’ shifting view is devastating for democrats during a time when they are pushing full amnesty for dreamers, while not giving any ground on funding a wall, improving border security, or reforming other immigration policies. Even Mark Penn, longtime democratic pollster and senior adviser to Bill and Hillary Clinton, recently admitted that the time has come for democrats to face the music and make a deal.

Finally, what is most surprising about the poll is the fact that it was taken before last week’s State of the Union address during which Americans had the opportunity to meet — via their televisions — families of victims killed at the hands of illegal immigrants.

Those heart-wrenching stories included two teenage girls killed at the hands of illegal immigrant MS-13 gang members on Long Island. It would be interesting to see if support for border security is even higher now in the light of the “Trump bump”that the president received from his heartfelt address.

The bottom line is Americans agree with Trump’s immigration policies, and it does not bode well for democrats who appear to either be tone deaf on the matter, blinded by their open-borders worldview that continues to protect illegals ahead of American citizens, or they intentionally want to keep the issue boiling in advance of the 2018 midterm elections.

The new polls illustrate that Americans feel as Trump feels — that Americans are “Dreamers” in our own right, and that we dream of a nation in which our children can be safe from predatory gang violence, illegal activity and that our children should be afforded the right to live long enough to fulfill their dreams, too.

Democrats’ failure to understand this basic premise just as their 15-point lead collapsed this week to just two points, may prove to be fatal for them in the 2018 midterm elections.
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Separating families at the border was the stupidest thing Trump has ever done as POTUS, that I know of. Fuck Trump
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This immigrant kidnapping thing (and that's exactly what it is) will be the defining characteristic of his legacy -- among many other shitty things. But this one will be a huge shit stain that can't be washed out. It's fucking despicable actions by despicable people.
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Let's hope something actually changes and stays that way..
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This immigrant kidnapping thing (and that's exactly what it is) will be the defining characteristic of his legacy -- among many other shitty things. But this one will be a huge shit stain that can't be washed out. It's fucking despicable actions by despicable people.
The news just interviewed a mother with a family of four, her husband, a baby and a 7 year old daughter. She and her baby were given assylum and sent to Miami, they charged her husband & 7 year old will entering illegally.

They sent the daughter to Atlanta and the father to Michigan. They kept her daughter 61 days and told the mother the government needed $2,000 for a one way plane ticket to Miami for her daughter. She didn't have $2,000 so they accepted $1,500. For a childs one way ticket from Atlanta to Miami.

They are deporting the father, he's still in prison. They put him in prison.

Trump's legacy.

They've been doing this for 2 months!
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The news just interviewed a mother with a family of four, her husband, a baby and a 7 year old daughter. She and her baby were given assylum and sent to Miami, they charged her husband & 7 year old will entering illegally.

They sent the daughter to Atlanta and the father to Michigan. They kept her daughter 61 days and told the mother they needed $2,000 for a plane ticket to Miami. She didn't have $2,000 so they accepted $1,500. For a child one way ticket from Atlanta to Miami.

They are deporting the father, he's still in prison. They put him in prison.

Trump's legacy.
The whole kid in cages is just a big red herring. I love it. Mostly everyone sees right through it and it's driving the #walkaway movement.
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This is her 7 year old they charged with entering illegally & put in a detention center in Atlanta for 2 months.



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The whole kid in cages, I love it.

Of course you do cause you're a hateful sadistic loser.
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Simply having the largest emotional outburst in the room doesn't make you more right on issues or your understanding of them.

New polling proves President Trump is right — 'Americans are #Dreamers, too'

A new left-leaning poll proves the point President Donald Trump made at his State of the Union address: “Americans are dreamers, too.”

According to a Harvard University-Harris Poll, a majority of Americans actually agree with not only one but all of Trump’s immigration proposals.

A stunning 65 percent of Americans support a DACA deal that ends chain migration, eliminates the random visa lottery and secures the border with a wall. Only 35 percent of Americans did not agree.

Nearly 70 percent of Americans oppose the visa lottery which allows immigrants to be picked at random for entry into the country.

In fact, nearly 80 percent of Americans believe that immigration should be based on merit and skills, not just family ties.

Even more interesting, the poll shows that 60 percent of Americans believe that even if dreamers are allowed to stay, they should not be given preference to bring relatives to the United States.

When faced with a choice, nearly 80 percent want secure borders rather than open borders.


Specifically, 61 percent think that current border security is inadequate
, and more than half of Americans — 54 percent — support a physical barrier along the southern U.S. border. This is particularly bad news for democrats such as Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) who recently reneged on funding the border wall.

The shocking poll underscores the progress Trump has made in his push for immigration reform. When he launched his bid for president, a Pew Research Center pollshowed that only 46 percent of Americans supported a border wall. In 2016, The Washington Post even poked fun at Trump for actually making the border wall less popular at just 36 percent but no that is no longer the case, either. The rise in poll numbers shows Trump’s persistence on the issue finally pays dividends.

The recent Harvard-Harris poll showing Americans’ shifting view is devastating for democrats during a time when they are pushing full amnesty for dreamers, while not giving any ground on funding a wall, improving border security, or reforming other immigration policies. Even Mark Penn, longtime democratic pollster and senior adviser to Bill and Hillary Clinton, recently admitted that the time has come for democrats to face the music and make a deal.

Finally, what is most surprising about the poll is the fact that it was taken before last week’s State of the Union address during which Americans had the opportunity to meet — via their televisions — families of victims killed at the hands of illegal immigrants.

Those heart-wrenching stories included two teenage girls killed at the hands of illegal immigrant MS-13 gang members on Long Island. It would be interesting to see if support for border security is even higher now in the light of the “Trump bump”that the president received from his heartfelt address.

The bottom line is Americans agree with Trump’s immigration policies, and it does not bode well for democrats who appear to either be tone deaf on the matter, blinded by their open-borders worldview that continues to protect illegals ahead of American citizens, or they intentionally want to keep the issue boiling in advance of the 2018 midterm elections.

The new polls illustrate that Americans feel as Trump feels — that Americans are “Dreamers” in our own right, and that we dream of a nation in which our children can be safe from predatory gang violence, illegal activity and that our children should be afforded the right to live long enough to fulfill their dreams, too.

Democrats’ failure to understand this basic premise just as their 15-point lead collapsed this week to just two points, may prove to be fatal for them in the 2018 midterm elections.
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This immigrant kidnapping thing (and that's exactly what it is) will be the defining characteristic of his legacy.
I'd think that too but there is just so much shit that Trump has done, it will be hard to pick the one thing to crown that legacy.

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trump kidnaps babies.
And squealer spend half an hour typing a post justifying it.
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This is what they're going to run on?

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This is what they're going to run on?

Good luck...
it's weird right. no matter how much in the minority they are in their irrational outbursts and name calling, they just double down on losing positions.

and still... what is the Democratic Platform? What do they stand for? What is the plan? No one knows.... No one knows anything right now about Democrats except muh Russia and Drumpf!!

The mid terms are going to yield some very predictable results.
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I'd think that too but there is just so much shit that Trump has done, it will be hard to pick the one thing to crown that legacy.



Nope.
Trump has tweeted numerous times that he doesn't believe in polls. Trump supporters don't believe in polls either, unless they're favorable to Trump.



Can you believe those idiots voted for a morbidly obese 73 year old grandfather that only believes good news and favorable facts? Fucking idiots
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it's weird right. no matter how much in the minority they are in their irrational outbursts and name calling, they just double down on losing positions.

and still... what is the Democratic Platform? What do they stand for? What is the plan? No one knows.... No one knows anything right now about Democrats except muh Russia and Drumpf!!

The mid terms are going to yield some very predictable results.
They don't realize what's happening because Mr. Personality President has them all tied up in hate knots. It's a never-ending losing choice of bad positions they would not normally take but - well, Trump.
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The news just interviewed a mother with a family of four, her husband, a baby and a 7 year old daughter. She and her baby were given assylum and sent to Miami, they charged her husband & 7 year old will entering illegally.

They sent the daughter to Atlanta and the father to Michigan. They kept her daughter 61 days and told the mother the government needed $2,000 for a one way plane ticket to Miami for her daughter. She didn't have $2,000 so they accepted $1,500. For a childs one way ticket from Atlanta to Miami.

They are deporting the father, he's still in prison. They put him in prison.

Trump's legacy.

They've been doing this for 2 months!
You failed to mention that they crossed a week apart. The father and daughter fell victim to the new rules. They fucked up.
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This immigrant kidnapping thing (and that's exactly what it is) will be the defining characteristic of his legacy -- among many other shitty things. But this one will be a huge shit stain that can't be washed out. It's fucking despicable actions by despicable people.





Hey Bronco- Of the 12,000 kids in question, 10,000 of them came alone or with a coyote / smuggler. So the number is 2,000 kids separated from the family temporarily. You know Trump signed a EO to end the practice and keep them together, right?
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You forgot to call me a Nazi...retard.
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you have to wonder whats going on in the mind of someone that is so openly hateful, when they are calling others "hateful". it is a bit amusing.
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you have to wonder whats going on in the mind of someone that is so openly hateful, when they are calling others "hateful". it is a bit amusing.
Same person, over and over with multiple nics. Guess who?

The lady doth protest too much...
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The alt-right hate fake nic troll is manic again today.

He's so lonely and so full of hate. Sad




In the thread "Doctors are shitbags" he manically posts under multiple nics, within minutes of each other, how many medical issues he has and how much he hates doctors



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Hey Bronco- Of the 12,000 kids in question, 10,000 of them came alone or with a coyote / smuggler. So the number is 2,000 kids separated from the family temporarily. You know Trump signed a EO to end the practice and keep them together, right?
To be fair, there's so much fake outrage from that crowd, that you can't expect them to remember moment to moment, what they're fake angry at or to keep their fake news organized.
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it's weird right. no matter how much in the minority they are in their irrational outbursts and name calling, they just double down on losing positions.

and still... what is the Democratic Platform? What do they stand for? What is the plan? No one knows.... No one knows anything right now about Democrats except muh Russia and Drumpf!!

The mid terms are going to yield some very predictable results.
What are you afraid of?
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What us liberals are not getting is Trumpers don’t care about illegals. He could shoot them at the border and they would cheer. I know people who call themselves deplorable. They are folks who are never going to have money or hot girls. They just want their easy chair and a cold beer. The type of concerns we have about some of this stuff is just beyond them.
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