Platinum Dave and Fantasy Man spammed my webmaster email addy "Swoit.com" :( - GoFuckYourself.com

TheFLY · 04-23-2003, 02:09 PM

I feel so cheap and used.

Fletch XXX · 04-23-2003, 02:10 PM

is that where the list came from?

TheFLY · 04-23-2003, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
is that where the list came from?

Yep. I tag all my emails with a code...

So I know who is fucking me.

04-23-2003, 02:13 PM

lol, way to go.

Easton · 04-23-2003, 02:13 PM

*scrubs his e-mail addresses with disinfectant soap*

Fletch XXX · 04-23-2003, 02:13 PM

StuartD · 04-23-2003, 02:14 PM

but I got 3 spams to my one address.... that explains 2... but where did the 3rd come from?

funkmaster · 04-23-2003, 02:15 PM

... who cares ?

just send some traffic to swoit.com ... you won´t regret it !!

TheFLY · 04-23-2003, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
... who cares ?

just send some traffic to swoit.com ... you won´t regret it !!

I'll pass.

detoxed · 04-23-2003, 02:17 PM

swoit is the next big thing. come on guys, get in early!

PeekHoles · 04-23-2003, 02:18 PM

What the hell is a swoit?

justsexxx · 04-23-2003, 02:18 PM

Lol another Fly joke. never understood why you did'nt get banned yet.

Andre

Platinum Albert · 04-23-2003, 02:22 PM

Hello There,

I can assure you that we did not spam with you with any message regarding this particular sponsor. We do not sell our webmaster email list and we uphold the highest level of confidentiality and privacy to any of our webmaster list.

Please contact me at [email protected] to discuss this matter.

Thanks.

TheFLY · 04-23-2003, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Platinum Albert
Hello There,

I can assure you that we did not spam with you with any message regarding this particular sponsor. We do not sell our webmaster email list and we uphold the highest level of confidentiality and privacy to any of our webmaster list.

Please contact me at [email protected] to discuss this matter.

Thanks.

I trust u if you say so... I know Dave...

It's possible I may have jumped the gun... my code for this particular spam was "plat" -- so it could have been another "platinum" program... Hmmm...

TheFLY · 04-23-2003, 02:30 PM

Well I have a feeling we will find out soon who did the spamming... Seriously I'm not really that upset about it... but I bet there are some people that wouldn't take it so lightly...

Fletch XXX · 04-23-2003, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Platinum Albert
Hello There,

I can assure you that we did not spam with you with any message regarding this particular sponsor.

hehehe what about others.

;)

boneprone · 04-23-2003, 02:37 PM

JesusPlat?

49thParallel · 04-23-2003, 02:39 PM

So, does Fantasyman have anything to do with this program?

pine · 04-23-2003, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
It's possible I may have jumped the gun... my code for this particular spam was "plat" -- so it could have been another "platinum" program... Hmmm...

hmmm...

Fletch XXX · 04-23-2003, 02:46 PM

im going to compare some emails myself and see if i can narrow it down as well.

this is gonna get good.

AWC · 04-23-2003, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Forplaz
What the hell is a swoit?

SWOIT noun, the greasy sweat of a swine's balls

Steve · 04-23-2003, 03:06 PM

I use some CE programs - didn't see swoit stuff in my inbox, bro. I think you might have this one wrong.

Fletch XXX · 04-23-2003, 03:08 PM

i got hit on an email that i only used for a few program sign ups, and i can at least narrow it down to a few, but i didnt join CE or PLatinum.

its something else, but i only got hit with it on a very obscure email.

one that i no longer use, and only used for a brief testing.

just gotta figure it out.

Darin · 04-23-2003, 03:08 PM

Reference this fun thread:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ighlight=swoit

greentea · 04-23-2003, 03:08 PM

Im betting its an intergal/sexhit/ list

Fletch XXX · 04-23-2003, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greentea
Im betting its an intergal/sexhit/ list

i dont use any of those.

Fletch XXX · 04-23-2003, 03:11 PM

seriously, i have only used this email for a few things.

and ive narrowed it down to a couple.

im almost hessitant to post because it just doesnt seem logical.

how did we all get hit with this?

Fly says Ce, & Plat, my filters say something else.

hmmm.

Mr Pheer · 04-23-2003, 03:14 PM

I totaly see nothing wrong if you have an affiliate program, and say you launch something new, so you email the webmasters that have signed up to your program and let them know.

But I've never heard of these swoit fuckers before and I'm pretty damn sure I never joined any of thier programs since I can count on one hand the ones that I have joined in the past 6 years.

greentea · 04-23-2003, 03:15 PM

its australian related

shared earnings or intergal is probably tied into this, i highly doubt its an american company or sponsor.

cherrylula · 04-23-2003, 03:16 PM

hmmm I have a couple ideas but I don't think its anyone mentioned in this threads title. It would have hit more of my emails. Yet it did not.

jimmy3way · 04-23-2003, 04:29 PM

Now I wish I hadn't deleted it right away, unread, like I do with all the spam I get.

Toker · 04-23-2003, 04:35 PM

Received: from m3.swoit.com ([216.198.194.98])
by mail.-----------(--------) with SMTP id h3N53w1R001182
for <toker@---------->; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:03:58 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by m3.swoit.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E0CF51E87
for <toker@--------->; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:04:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Jessie" <[email protected]>
Delivered-To: toker@---------
To: toker@--------
Message-ID: <000000000000.%message_id%@localhost>
X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.01.00
Subject: Swoit.com Worldwide Launch
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:04:14 -0500 (CDT)
X-UIDL: l$~!!oC>"!1O2!!XF+#!

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
OrgName: CYBERCON, INC.
OrgID: CBCN
Address: 210 N. Tucker Blvd.
Address: Suite 700
City: Saint Louis
StateProv: MO
PostalCode: 63101
Country: US

NetRange: 216.198.192.0 - 216.198.255.255
CIDR: 216.198.192.0/18
NetName: CYBERCON-BLK-4
NetHandle: NET-216-198-192-0-1
Parent: NET-216-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.CYBERCON.COM
NameServer: NS2.CYBERCON.COM
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2000-04-17
Updated: 2002-07-30

TechHandle: JZC-ARIN
TechName: Chen, Joshua
TechPhone: +1-314-621-9991
TechEmail: [email protected]

OrgTechHandle: NOC344-ARIN
OrgTechName: Network Operations Center
OrgTechPhone: +1-314-621-9991
OrgTechEmail: [email protected]

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-04-22 20:10
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Theo · 04-23-2003, 04:48 PM

aussies own our outlook, learn to live with it

jimmy3way · 04-23-2003, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
hmmm I have a couple ideas but I don't think its anyone mentioned in this threads title. It would have hit more of my emails. Yet it did not.

The only other place I get by at the addie swoit hit me at is TopBucks.

Anybody else?

I'm not pointing any fingers, just sharing a fact.

rooster · 04-23-2003, 04:53 PM

I got it once. Its not an email I use on a site or in whois info so I'd strike those off as possiblities.

I was in intergal a long ass time ago, but I'm pretty certain it wasnt this email that I used. And I cant remember ever joining any other aussie based prog.

High Quality · 04-23-2003, 04:55 PM

CE comes to mind for me....

FATPad · 04-23-2003, 04:59 PM

Topbucks
Silvercash
The CE programs

Plus a few others.

MikeB · 04-23-2003, 05:22 PM

CE Does not sell webmaster information to other companies. If we had anything to do with it, it would have been from CE Cash.

I have about a hundred different CE accounts under various email addresses and I only got 1 copy of that spam.

If you have any questions please contact me mike b at inet b dot com.

Thanks,

Mike B

Steve · 04-23-2003, 05:30 PM

ionly Aussie based sponsor I have used in years was PornBucks, and they are gone now. Doubt they sold their list, since I haven't seen any swoit mail.

What's the big deal, anyway? Did it change your homepage or something?

Fletch XXX · 04-23-2003, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmy3way

The only other place I get by at the addie swoit hit me at is TopBucks.

Anybody else?

I'm not pointing any fingers, just sharing a fact.

it DID in fact hit the email I have at Topbucks, and in addition, it ALSO hit my secret 'test' email, and one of the sites was OneVerify that I used that email for, theres a connection between the two that had me stumped.

also, not pointing fingers, but just stating what I also know to be fact.

49thParallel · 04-23-2003, 06:17 PM

Damn...is this another site without the smarts to make it without screwing the customer...

On page one of their sign-up page, go to the Terms & Conditions...you will find this little nugget:

"Memberships will consist of the Free trial provided by CCBill to the main site chosen, plus an automatic subscription to Nudes Live Online billed at $19.95 monthly"

This is the only time I can find this mentioned. If this is really true, I still have to ask... how do you scum fool yourselfs into thinking you are businessmen, when really you are nothing more then fraudelent crooks.

NetRodent · 04-23-2003, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel
I still have to ask... how do you scum fool yourselfs into thinking you are businessmen, when really you are nothing more then fraudelent crooks.

Steal from one person and you're a crook. Steal from thousands and you're a businessman.

stocktrader23 · 04-23-2003, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NetRodent

Steal from one person and you're a crook. Steal from thousands and you're a businessman.

And thats the truth.

49thParallel · 04-23-2003, 06:29 PM

Nah..it still makes you a scamming crook...

Pointless · 04-23-2003, 06:44 PM

Quote:

aussies own our outlook, learn to live with it

funny but has a bit of truth attached to it

Swoit · 04-23-2003, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Damn...is this another site without the smarts to make it without screwing the customer...

Our web designed didn't update the terms page properly. he has been slapped.

Swoit is a simply $33.95 subscription - no upsells, no cross sells, no tricks.

49thParallel · 04-23-2003, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Swoit

Our web designed didn't update the terms page properly. he has been slapped.

Swoit is a simply $33.95 subscription - no upsells, no cross sells, no tricks.

Good to hear it...In that case, I will be trying some traffic to your program over the next few days.

boneprone · 04-23-2003, 07:47 PM

Maybe AVN gave it to them.

Internext gets info and gives it to people. Maybe this is the case here?

TheFLY · 04-23-2003, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve
I use some CE programs - didn't see swoit stuff in my inbox, bro. I think you might have this one wrong.

Do you think I would start a CE "bash" thread for no reason? No...

I'll send my headers to anyone that wants to ICQ me about it...

TheFLY · 04-23-2003, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikeB_CE
CE Does not sell webmaster information to other companies. If we had anything to do with it, it would have been from CE Cash.

CE, CE cash whatever like I know the difference... Maybe i'm retarded I thought fantasyman ran CE... anyway yeah Steve it's not a big deal... but I'm over the whole "let's delete 500 emails/day" -- you know once my box is fucked by SWOIT whatever the fuck it is called -- you know the shit gets sold to a bazillion other lame ass fucking programs and then I'm wasting all kinds of fucking time editing my goddamn email account. Yes -- so it does fucking piss me the fuck off... if I have to spend 30 minutes editing a buch of fucking email box parameters on the control panel of my host -- that's time I'd rather be fucking some ho...

Anyway I'm over it... But you can see my point. What's even worse is that I use this domain ONLY for webmaster programs -- all my junk mail goes to another location... I'm very careful about my email and where it comes from... What's the worse is when the fucking spammers invent new aliases on your domain -- that is the worst fucking shit... That's hours and hours of wasted fucking labor on my part re-signing up for every program I belong to after the worms start launching... so yes it IS a big fucking deal.

04-23-2003, 02:09 PM	#1
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Platinum Dave and Fantasy Man spammed my webmaster email addy "Swoit.com" :( I feel so cheap and used.

04-23-2003, 02:10 PM	#2
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04-23-2003, 02:13 PM	#5
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04-23-2003, 02:13 PM	#6
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04-23-2003, 02:14 PM	#7
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	but I got 3 spams to my one address.... that explains 2... but where did the 3rd come from? __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

04-23-2003, 02:13 PM	#4
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	lol, way to go.

04-23-2003, 02:15 PM	#8
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	... who cares ? just send some traffic to swoit.com ... you won´t regret it !!

04-23-2003, 02:17 PM	#10
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	swoit is the next big thing. come on guys, get in early!

04-23-2003, 02:18 PM	#11
PeekHoles Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,151	What the hell is a swoit?

04-23-2003, 02:18 PM	#12
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Lol another Fly joke. never understood why you did'nt get banned yet. Andre __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

04-23-2003, 02:22 PM	#13
Platinum Albert Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 144	Hello There, I can assure you that we did not spam with you with any message regarding this particular sponsor. We do not sell our webmaster email list and we uphold the highest level of confidentiality and privacy to any of our webmaster list. Please contact me at [email protected] to discuss this matter. Thanks. __________________ Platinum Albert Marketing and Communications [email protected] <a href="http://www.platinumbucks.com/">http://www.platinumbucks.com/</a> <a href="http://www.webmasterhangover.com/">http://www.webmasterhangover.com/</a> <a href="http://www.platinumbucks.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.platinumbucks.com/sales_tools/banners/PB/odd/133x31_1.gif" border="0" alt=""></a>

04-23-2003, 02:30 PM	#15
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Well I have a feeling we will find out soon who did the spamming... Seriously I'm not really that upset about it... but I bet there are some people that wouldn't take it so lightly...

04-23-2003, 02:37 PM	#17
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	JesusPlat? __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

04-23-2003, 02:39 PM	#18
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	So, does Fantasyman have anything to do with this program?

04-23-2003, 02:46 PM	#20
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	im going to compare some emails myself and see if i can narrow it down as well. this is gonna get good. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-23-2003, 03:06 PM	#22
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	I use some CE programs - didn't see swoit stuff in my inbox, bro. I think you might have this one wrong.

04-23-2003, 03:08 PM	#23
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	i got hit on an email that i only used for a few program sign ups, and i can at least narrow it down to a few, but i didnt join CE or PLatinum. its something else, but i only got hit with it on a very obscure email. one that i no longer use, and only used for a brief testing. just gotta figure it out. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-23-2003, 03:08 PM	#24
Darin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 345	Reference this fun thread: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ighlight=swoit __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

04-23-2003, 03:08 PM	#25
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	Im betting its an intergal/sexhit/ list

04-23-2003, 03:11 PM	#27
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	seriously, i have only used this email for a few things. and ive narrowed it down to a couple. im almost hessitant to post because it just doesnt seem logical. how did we all get hit with this? Fly says Ce, & Plat, my filters say something else. hmmm. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-23-2003, 03:14 PM	#28
Mr Pheer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 20,887	I totaly see nothing wrong if you have an affiliate program, and say you launch something new, so you email the webmasters that have signed up to your program and let them know. But I've never heard of these swoit fuckers before and I'm pretty damn sure I never joined any of thier programs since I can count on one hand the ones that I have joined in the past 6 years.

04-23-2003, 03:15 PM	#29
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	its australian related shared earnings or intergal is probably tied into this, i highly doubt its an american company or sponsor.

04-23-2003, 03:16 PM	#30
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	hmmm I have a couple ideas but I don't think its anyone mentioned in this threads title. It would have hit more of my emails. Yet it did not.

04-23-2003, 04:29 PM	#31
jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	Now I wish I hadn't deleted it right away, unread, like I do with all the spam I get. __________________ One thing, I forgot this last detail: the Biz Markie will always prevail.

04-23-2003, 04:35 PM	#32
Toker Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 891	Received: from m3.swoit.com ([216.198.194.98]) by mail.-----------(--------) with SMTP id h3N53w1R001182 for <toker@---------->; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:03:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m3.swoit.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E0CF51E87 for <toker@--------->; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:04:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jessie" <[email protected]> Delivered-To: toker@--------- To: toker@-------- Message-ID: <000000000000.%message_id%@localhost> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.01.00 Subject: Swoit.com Worldwide Launch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:04:14 -0500 (CDT) X-UIDL: l$~!!oC>"!1O2!!XF+#! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx OrgName: CYBERCON, INC. OrgID: CBCN Address: 210 N. Tucker Blvd. Address: Suite 700 City: Saint Louis StateProv: MO PostalCode: 63101 Country: US NetRange: 216.198.192.0 - 216.198.255.255 CIDR: 216.198.192.0/18 NetName: CYBERCON-BLK-4 NetHandle: NET-216-198-192-0-1 Parent: NET-216-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1.CYBERCON.COM NameServer: NS2.CYBERCON.COM Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE RegDate: 2000-04-17 Updated: 2002-07-30 TechHandle: JZC-ARIN TechName: Chen, Joshua TechPhone: +1-314-621-9991 TechEmail: [email protected] OrgTechHandle: NOC344-ARIN OrgTechName: Network Operations Center OrgTechPhone: +1-314-621-9991 OrgTechEmail: [email protected] # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-04-22 20:10 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. __________________ PeaceAlive and kicking

04-23-2003, 04:48 PM	#33
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	aussies own our outlook, learn to live with it

04-23-2003, 04:53 PM	#35
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	I got it once. Its not an email I use on a site or in whois info so I'd strike those off as possiblities. I was in intergal a long ass time ago, but I'm pretty certain it wasnt this email that I used. And I cant remember ever joining any other aussie based prog.

04-23-2003, 04:55 PM	#36
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04-23-2003, 04:59 PM	#37
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04-23-2003, 05:22 PM	#38
MikeB Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012	CE Does not sell webmaster information to other companies. If we had anything to do with it, it would have been from CE Cash. I have about a hundred different CE accounts under various email addresses and I only got 1 copy of that spam. If you have any questions please contact me mike b at inet b dot com. Thanks, Mike B

04-23-2003, 05:30 PM	#39
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	ionly Aussie based sponsor I have used in years was PornBucks, and they are gone now. Doubt they sold their list, since I haven't seen any swoit mail. What's the big deal, anyway? Did it change your homepage or something?

04-23-2003, 06:17 PM	#41
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	Damn...is this another site without the smarts to make it without screwing the customer... On page one of their sign-up page, go to the Terms & Conditions...you will find this little nugget: "Memberships will consist of the Free trial provided by CCBill to the main site chosen, plus an automatic subscription to Nudes Live Online billed at $19.95 monthly" This is the only time I can find this mentioned. If this is really true, I still have to ask... how do you scum fool yourselfs into thinking you are businessmen, when really you are nothing more then fraudelent crooks.

04-23-2003, 06:29 PM	#44
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	Nah..it still makes you a scamming crook...

04-23-2003, 07:47 PM	#48
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Maybe AVN gave it to them. Internext gets info and gives it to people. Maybe this is the case here? __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.