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Old 04-03-2003, 02:02 PM   #1
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Young Webmasters are shallow

Over the past 7 years on the net I noticed that..

More and more girls are perfect looking. When most of us amateurs started out in 95-96 there wasn't much in adobe, digital photography etc.

How does this affect our young men?

Do you young webmasters only go for the model look?
If so, isn't that pretty shallow?

Most webmasters I have met are no price in the looking department. Yeah reckon a lot of them have money, but most of you guys are overweight and really have no clue how to treat women.

I personally know some webmasters who will only date models, lookers!
Don't you guys want a family?

Maybe I am just getting old, (having boys in their 20's who are not webmasters) but looking at the girlfriends of my boys, they are not model material but will make great wives, mothers and lifetime companions.

What are you young webmaster males looking for in a girlfriend?

Looks only will not get you happiness, keep that in mind next time you beat on a girl,. Keep in mind that in 20 years you probably won't have a family, life companion and partner if you don't change your view on women.

There is a real world out there, maybe some of you webmasters need to get out more, go to real clubs, not webmaster conventions

Don't mind my ranting, i am in a pissy mood, my pc crashed and won't start



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Old 04-03-2003, 02:04 PM   #2
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I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Most girls a lot of guys on here think are hot, I think are nasty looking porn star types.
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Old 04-03-2003, 02:05 PM   #3
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This is intended as a serious comment, not a jab, so don't take it that way.

You work in an industry that revolves around being naked for money; where taking off your clothes <B>is</B> the job; and you are accusing people of being shallow for liking women who are better-looking than you?

That's a bit silly to me. I mean, could you possibly be in a shallower industry? I doubt it. Maybe banking.

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Old 04-03-2003, 02:07 PM   #5
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You are correct, and let me predict their comeback: "You're just player hating."
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Lets get back to the topic of the girl in the bunny ears.
When can I have at her?
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Old 04-03-2003, 02:36 PM   #8
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I keep reading "Young webmasters swallow".

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Old 04-03-2003, 02:38 PM   #9
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Old 04-03-2003, 02:43 PM   #10
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I'm with Space.

We're talking about a business where the sole talent IS being good looking.
You can't call someone looking for that "shallow" here.
They're looking for someone who's the best at what they'll do.
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Yeah.. they wont even post pics of their kids on gfy..

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Oh God.....this is the ENTERTAINMENT industry before it's the adult industry. And in entertainment, whether it's the circus, a music artist, or an adult star, you have to deliver the people something larger than life. Britney Spears sells BECAUSE she doesn't look like the average pimply faced teenage girl with an underdeveloped or pudgy body. We're selling a fantasy, an IDEA. With that said, you're still wrong because the backlash has created even more avenues to stray away from that and provide a niche for the 'average' girl. Some people get turned on more by something potentially attainable rather than the perfect 10 pornstar that they couldn't get within dick's length of in their life.

And as far as the real world scenario...some people like their car to look good and run good too. Why compromise?
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i smoke herbs more than i drink.

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Oh God.....this is the ENTERTAINMENT industry before it's the adult industry. And in entertainment, whether it's the circus, a music artist, or an adult star, you have to deliver the people something larger than life. Britney Spears sells BECAUSE she doesn't look like the average pimply faced teenage girl with an underdeveloped or pudgy body. We're selling a fantasy, an IDEA. With that said, you're still wrong because the backlash has created even more avenues to stray away from that and provide a niche for the 'average' girl. Some people get turned on more by something potentially attainable rather than the perfect 10 pornstar that they couldn't get within dick's length of in their life.

And as far as the real world scenario...some people like their car to look good and run good too. Why compromise?


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Oh God.....this is the ENTERTAINMENT industry before it's the adult industry. And in entertainment, whether it's the circus, a music artist, or an adult star, you have to deliver the people something larger than life. Britney Spears sells BECAUSE she doesn't look like the average pimply faced teenage girl with an underdeveloped or pudgy body. We're selling a fantasy, an IDEA. With that said, you're still wrong because the backlash has created even more avenues to stray away from that and provide a niche for the 'average' girl. Some people get turned on more by something potentially attainable rather than the perfect 10 pornstar that they couldn't get within dick's length of in their life.

And as far as the real world scenario...some people like their car to look good and run good too. Why compromise?
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Fuck, girls aren't cars.
That said, I wouldn't mind giving some of them an oil change
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women r confused,

they all say omg she has so much makeup, omg those r fake etc. etc.

but yet they are wearing makeup and buying magazines that talk about weight loss.
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Fuck, girls aren't cars.
That said, I wouldn't mind giving some of them an oil change
And yet you somehow failed to use the word "dipstick".

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Hahaha. I just like to use that analogy because I hate hearing female whine "well would you rather have a pretty girl or a girl that treats you right". Fuck that, why can't I have both. Do I want a Mercedes with a perfect body but a fucked engine and transmission? No. But I also don't want a rusted Hyundai that will be reliable and run for years without problems.
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they all say omg she has so much makeup, omg those r fake etc. etc.

but yet they are wearing makeup and buying magazines that talk about weight loss.
Exactly, will a woman please tell me if you're so "liberated and independent" why are you still shackled to MALE standards of beauty by your own choice? Women wear heels to appear taller with longer legs, not for comfort. Women get breast implants for MEN. If men didn't exist they would just be the mammary glands that they are, get real. Let's not get into makeup, fake nails, hair, lipo, and anything else you can think of.

So if we as men set the standard, you all are sure spending a lot of money try to attain it. And then when you fall short of it, complain that it's men's fault. Women's Lib movement was one of the worst things for females and they didn't even know it. Why deny what's natural to your being? Portraying sexuality and trying to attract the opposite sex is a part of instinct in just about every species. Instead of acting like it's a bad thing, it should be understood and embraced!
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Your girl needs to look good... if you got some nice gear on.. got a nice car that breaks necks... you can have no ugly chick in the passnger seat... Thats just wrong!!!
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Looking for that perfect girl will get you in trouble. For starters you have to watch your back. Your buddy's will make a move on her if they get the chance. The player friends of mine I knew all ended up alone and lonely.
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im looking for a good woman who dies bukkake. whats your number?
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people are shallow in general we just provide visual evidence.
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Everyone has different taste in women. I think most porn stars are skanks with fake boobs. But then I'm also sure I would categorize those girls your 20 something boys date as redneck trailer trash.

If I wasn't married, I would definitely be dating outside the industry.
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Shallowness exemplified.

I think that most young webmasters are shallow, I also think most of the older webmasters are shallow too

Money + Freedom = Power mix that with insecurity = shallowness

And if when throw in Youth... look out!

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Okay, im reading her post differently than yall are.

Its not about women looking good for men. Its about men only dating the "pretty lookers"

I agree, steffie, ive seen so many ugly guys dating pretty girls. Ive seen so many guys on here that arent lookers themselves, that are quite overweight, that refuse to think that BBW is a valid niche because we are all "gross overweight bitches."

There is something for everyone. Some guys only like the itty bitty skinny anorexic look, thats fine, thats for them. Some guys only like girls like me, curvy, soft, big, etc.

I think its shallow to go for someone (to date) completly on looks. If I cant have a conversation with him or her, they certainly arent getting in my bed! :-)

BTW, I tend to go for the cute geeky looking guys opposed to the frat boy kinda look. Everyone has their type. But, if they geeky guy cant carry a conversation, or the frat boy can, i'll switch my preference.
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I'm shallow and proud of it!!!

.. and I'm 33! whohooo!
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Ok... let's clarify...

There's women I drool at, they are really good looking. I can't let them walk by without looking twice.

There's the women I want to date, they are good looking but not super hot. I don't want a superficial girl who has guys drooling over her all the time.

Then there's girls I would spank to in a video, and for that... they gotta be cute, but not a model type. Girl next door (realistic) girls are big business right now.. the latest fad.

This is how it is for me. Sorta shallow, but not quite
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Steffie wrote:

Over the past 7 years on the net I noticed that..

More and more girls are perfect looking. When most of us amateurs started out in 95-96 there wasn't much in adobe, digital photography etc.

How does this affect our young men?


My reply is:

I'm in no respect a young webmaster, but I have some comments to contribute.

Standards in modeling are high, and are not driven by webmasters but by the market. Back in the beginnings of modern porn, in the 60's and 70's, porn "models" were mainly 25-to-30ish hookers or hippies (and looking at vintage porn from that period, you can usually guess which of those pools the model came from). Today, the girls I shoot are usually 18-to-20ish college coeds. Or course, my work is largely devoted to "natural" girls, not showgirls, pornstars, or "babes," so maybe the girls I shoot are not what you are talking about.

Contrary to the doctrine and wishes of the feminists, certain standards of beauty seem to be ingrained or "hard-wired" and are not as "cultural" as once thought. Given a choice between two strange women, a baby will almost invariably crawl toward the one with the face that is more conventionally beautiful. Proponents of a certain fetish area aside, men almost universally prefer young women to more mature women as sex partners. Speaking for myself, working with attractive and naked young women all the time probably has had an effect on me. I cannot find many women anywhere near my age (57) attractive. We can be friends and even very close friends, but do I have sexual desire for any women near my age? None.

Nothing could be more human than to seek perfection, and perfection in terms of physical beauty is an enjoyment unto itself, merely in the observation.

And here I'm speaking of the part of the adult world which is devoted to beauty. I'm not speaking of the fuck and suck area, which I happen to feel is perverse. If that part of the adult world were to disappear overnight, I would not shed a single tear.


Steffie wrote:

Yeah reckon a lot of them have money, but most of you guys are overweight and really have no clue how to treat women.

My reply is:

You are right there, and much of the industry is devoted to dhahahahating wanton sluts instead of pretty girls. Beauty is a holy thing, cum guzzling is gutter fare that rots mind and soul alike.


Steffie wrote:

I personally know some webmasters who will only date models, lookers!
Don't you guys want a family?

Maybe I am just getting old, (having boys in their 20's who are not webmasters) but looking at the girlfriends of my boys, they are not model material but will make great wives, mothers and lifetime companions.

What are you young webmaster males looking for in a girlfriend?

My reply is:

I think you need to listen to the Tom Leykis show on the radio. If it's on the are locally, tune it in and listen to it for a few weeks. Basically, until a man is ready to settle down, women are basically booty calls.


Steffie wrote:

Looks only will not get you happiness, keep that in mind next time you beat on a girl,. Keep in mind that in 20 years you probably won't have a family, life companion and partner if you don't change your view on women.

There is a real world out there, maybe some of you webmasters need to get out more, go to real clubs, not webmaster conventions

My reply is:

For men, women are sex objects. For women, men are success objects. Also, women have some weird attitudes themselves. I remember the 20/20 show several years ago that showed that women have a preference for height the way men have one for beauty. Only the female love for wealthy partners could overcome a height deficit. They were shown a number of equally physically attractive men of varying heights, and the women's preferences seemed very closely related to the height of the men. Only when told that the shortest man was quite wealthy did their interest in him increase.
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Old 04-03-2003, 07:19 PM   #41
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I'm 19. I don't have unreal expectations of women. Hell, a few of my female friends that i have known for years are far more attractive than any of the photoshopped girls i've seen on the internet.

Give me the girl next door anytime.

Doesn't mean i like <i>all</i> amateur girls. Goddamn. Some of them are just fucking ugly.
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Old 04-03-2003, 07:21 PM   #42
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Old 04-03-2003, 07:27 PM   #43
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I don't like the plastic photoshop look... and I hate fake tits.

But lets face facts, women are just as shallow as men, if not more. Most of them are just interested in guys with lots of CASH... and I mean lots.

That's simply as shallow as it gets.
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Old 04-03-2003, 07:28 PM   #44
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porn is a fantasy. a guy isn't gonna pay for some ugly chick with a great personality unless thats his thing...
You're right. I have been in love, and even though, like most guys, I like pretty girls, that is FAR from the only factor when you are in love.

Hell, there are some very pretty women I've disliked intensely.
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Old 04-03-2003, 07:33 PM   #45
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But lets face facts, women are just as shallow as men, if not more. Most of them are just interested in guys with lots of CASH... and I mean lots.

That's simply as shallow as it gets.
Usually only ugly guys think this way which you obviously are.
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Old 04-03-2003, 07:40 PM   #46
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Usually only ugly guys think this way which you obviously are.
Far from it. Just my life experience.

I hate shallow bitches. Pay your own fucking way. I'm not giving anyone a free ride.
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Old 04-03-2003, 07:44 PM   #47
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Yep.. as shallow as we are women are just as if not more so. I saw a show recently on Humans. The guy presenting it drove up to a caf'e in a very ordinary car and went and sat in the caf'e dressed in very ordinary clothes. (he is by no means good looking ) They asked 4 women the to rate him out of 10. The highest he got was 3. Later he did the same thing but with a luxury car and in a suit, only this time he scored between 8 - 10 byt the same women.

And we are shallow?
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Old 04-03-2003, 07:51 PM   #48
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Old 04-03-2003, 07:53 PM   #49
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Far from it. Just my life experience.

I hate shallow bitches. Pay your own fucking way. I'm not giving anyone a free ride.
yes true,
thats why i go for "cute" girls,
they seem to have a homey type personality and i like that.
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Old 04-03-2003, 07:56 PM   #50
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