Announcement: Protect Your Videos And Increase Conversions And Member Retention! - GoFuckYourself.com

The Machine · 03-31-2003, 04:38 PM

Hi Everybody,

We've got some exciting news for you. ITDSoft is proud to announce the release of its brand new Video Content Protection and Digital Rights Management system - the Splayer SecureVideo System (www.secureyourmedia.com)

The idea is simple - when using our product, your movie files can be viewed only by active members of your site. Once a member cancels their membership, they lose the ability to view the already downloaded videos. When they attempt to play the files, the sign-up page of your site (or any URL of your choice) is opened in their browser and they are prompted to renew their membership. The result is that your content will be protected from p2p file sharing and leeching members that cancel as soon as they have downloaded all your videos. Thus, you will enjoy a boost in conversions and member retention!

The product is specifically designed with the adult industry in mind and is very easy to use both on the server side and the client side. All files are encrypted on the server so you don't have to upload gigs of content. A powerful proprietary encryption algorithm is used to ensure the maximum security of your content. Batch encryption makes using the system a breeze - you can encrypt 1 or a 1000 files at a time (as well as entire folders with video files). You don't even need to set up a separate database with your members' usernames and passwords. The system can work with your existing database (or password file).

The product protects MPEG-1 and AVI (including DivX) files. It works on all versions of Windows (95, 98, NT, Me, 2000 and XP) and with all versions of Windows Media Player (6.4, 7, 8, 9). It even works with other popular Windows-based players like BSPlayer and MicroDVD. The server side of the system works on all types of servers - FreeBSD, Linux, Windows, etc.

We have prepared a live online demo which illustrates how the system works on the client (surfer) side. As part of the demo, you will be able to upload (and encrypt) your own video files, install the client side plug-in (a 482 KB download) and see for yourself how the product works, and what happens when the membership is canceled.

We would be glad to answer any questions that you might have regarding the product. Take advantage of this unique opportunity to protect your valuable video content and increase your revenues!

Regards,

Paul
info at secureyourmedia.com

The Truth Hurts · 03-31-2003, 04:47 PM

Clicks the screenshots/demo link...

No Screenshots.
No Demo.
Nowhere to register for a demo.

The Machine · 03-31-2003, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Clicks the screenshots/demo link...

No Screenshots.
No Demo.
Nowhere to register for a demo.

Demo accounts are set up manually. Contact me (email or ICQ 106769997) and I'll be glad to set one up for you.

Martin · 03-31-2003, 04:53 PM

Looks good..

The Machine · 03-31-2003, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin
Looks good..

thanks - it is good

Dax · 03-31-2003, 05:11 PM

If it is all that is cracked up to be.. is excellent... that would be amazing! I hope is real and I hope it works as good as it sounds..

BRISK · 03-31-2003, 05:54 PM

Interesting

Lensman · 03-31-2003, 06:26 PM

Be straight up and tell us how much is it? And don't give us contact me mucky muck. Post it.

erotictrance · 03-31-2003, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Be straight up and tell us how much is it? And don't give us contact me mucky muck. Post it.

I agree.

The Machine · 03-31-2003, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Be straight up and tell us how much is it? And don't give us contact me mucky muck. Post it.

Straight to the point, heh

The pricing is as follows: $10k initial (including set up) + $1k a month, or a $20k lump sum (one time payment).

tucker · 03-31-2003, 07:08 PM

IF YOU WANT A SIMPLE AND EASY WAY TO DRM YOUR CONTENT AND HAVE IT CONTINUE TO MAKE MONEY FOR YOU CHECK OUT

www.instantdrm.com

$99 flat fee per month ofr 3 months and then $199 per month thereafter...all you can eat.

We have been in the adultbiz for over 3 years na dare sick and tired of people comming in with rediculous pricing and models that make no sense.

If u want to know more about DRM check out our resource site at www.drmdaily.com or email me.

tucker at playasolutions.com

l8tr

Wiseman · 03-31-2003, 07:25 PM

WOW!! PRETTY FUCKING PRICEY!!!
ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THIS!!!!!
TUCKER'S SHIT WORKS!!!!!
Tucxker knows his shit!!!!!!!!!
So Check out Tuckers shit!!!!
Fuck the other guys over priced shit!!!
And he even has nice web sites so you can look at it and see it to!!!
AMAZEING!!!!
Kinda pisses me off when people come in and try to fucking Charge an arm and a leg for shit that really doesnt cost anything close to that kinda $$$ to do what they are selling!!!!

The Machine · 03-31-2003, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tucker

Hehe, thank you for posting this in my thread, Tucker - very thoughtful of you. However, these are 2 quite different propositions. You are reselling the M$ DRM, which works for WMV files only, and has its faults, both as a business model and security wise. At the same time, our system protects MPEG-1 and AVI (including DivX) files. It is a unique, in-house developed product that will appeal to people who don't want to get tied in a proprietary video format and possibly be gouged for much more money in the future by the format's owner.

Another interesting point is that our solution is specifically tailored to the paysite membership model and does not require additional hardware, server OS licences (which are very substantial by themselves), and has no hidden costs (or costs that can be imposed by MS both to you and to your clients in the future).

So please don't compare apples and oranges, it makes your comparrison irrelevant

Just Mike · 03-31-2003, 07:31 PM

Like most people in the industry I'd feel a bit safer with a company that has a strong reputation and solid people behind it like Playa, Tuck and Oy.

....NO DISRESPECT "THE MACHINE" I just don't know your company.

Besides...come on...Playasolutions ( www.instantdrm.com) has been kickin' ass with DRM forever....you guys are jumping on the bandwagon a little late aren't ya?

Not to mention your outrageous prices...I think you forgot we are in an economic solwdown.

Pipecrew · 03-31-2003, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Machine

Hehe, thank you for posting this in my thread, Tucker - very thoughtful of you. However, these are 2 quite different propositions. You are reselling the M$ DRM, which works for WMV files only, and has its faults, both as a business model and security wise. At the same time, our system protects MPEG-1 and AVI (including DivX) files. It is a unique, in-house developed product that will appeal to people who don't want to get tied in a proprietary video format and possibly be gouged for much more money in the future by the format's owner.

Another interesting point is that our solution is specifically tailored to the paysite membership model and does not require additional hardware, server OS licences (which are very substantial by themselves), and has no hidden costs (or costs that can be imposed by MS both to you and to your clients in the future).

So please don't compare apples and oranges, it makes your comparrison irrelevant

I dont even know Tucker, but I'd rather pay 99 then your retarded prices, best of luck

tucker · 03-31-2003, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Machine

Another interesting point is that our solution is specifically tailored to the paysite membership model and does not require additional hardware, server OS licences (which are very substantial by themselves), and has no hidden costs (or costs that can be imposed by MS both to you and to your clients in the future).

So please don't compare apples and oranges, it makes your comparrison irrelevant

I am not trying to squash your thunder but I also dont want to see my friends get nailed. For the record, you need no additional anything with our system and MS does not and will not impose any additional anything especially not OS licenses and such.

I can appreciate your ability with Divx and other formats but our money is where the 95% of surfers are on Bill Gates.

As far as using DRM...I secure our files and send them out over P2P networks and also secure our members areas...when content is traded or stolen, we make money from the clicks and from the conversions. This month we are converting 1:521 from P2P traffic to programs.

Like I said, I dont want to take anything away from your system which you have taken time and effort to build but when I hear setup fee and this fee and that fee, I freak out.

The Machine · 03-31-2003, 07:43 PM

different strokes for different folks. the people who understand my proposition and why it is unique will see the value in it. good luck to everyone though

The Machine · 03-31-2003, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tucker

I am not trying to squash your thunder but I also dont want to see my friends get nailed. For the record, you need no additional anything with our system and MS does not and will not impose any additional anything especially not OS licenses and such.

I can appreciate your ability with Divx and other formats but our money is where the 95% of surfers are on Bill Gates.

As far as using DRM...I secure our files and send them out over P2P networks and also secure our members areas...when content is traded or stolen, we make money from the clicks and from the conversions. This month we are converting 1:521 from P2P traffic to programs.

Like I said, I dont want to take anything away from your system which you have taken time and effort to build but when I hear setup fee and this fee and that fee, I freak out.

sure

Rochard · 03-31-2003, 07:46 PM

I agree with Wiseman. Sounds to me like you are trying to charge $10K - $20k a pop for software that cost you next to nothing to write.

I know Tucker personally; I've known him for over a year and I spent the weekend with him in Burbank a few weeks ago. It's not often that someone impresses me in this business, but Tucker is one of the few who have.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to get my popcorn.

xanx · 03-31-2003, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Machine
different strokes for different folks. the people who understand my proposition and why it is unique will see the value in it. good luck to everyone though

Cut your prices in half... and than, maybe....

The Machine · 03-31-2003, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocHard
I agree with Wiseman. Sounds to me like you are trying to charge $10K - $20k a pop for software that cost you next to nothing to write.

I know Tucker personally; I've known him for over a year and I spent the weekend with him in Burbank a few weeks ago. It's not often that someone impresses me in this business, but Tucker is one of the few who have.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to get my popcorn.

I'm sorry but you missed the point. Our solution was developed from the ground up, specifically for MPEG-1 and AVI (DivX) files. It has NOTHING to do with the MS DRM, which other guys, like tucker here, pick up ready to go and resell.

Our product was developed in the course of 10 months and took a lot of time and money to finish, but anything unique is that way.

Juicy D. Links · 03-31-2003, 07:58 PM

Tucker is my dad

FiReC · 03-31-2003, 09:21 PM

can anyone setup MS DRM if they have a windows media server?

OY · 03-31-2003, 09:31 PM

DRM is the way to go if you want to re-capture lost revenue off the P2P networks out there. Let the P2P freebees burn and churn your content all day long now... At the end of the day you still make money.

InstantDRM.com is the only full end to end and plug and play solution that I have seen out there (as of yet)

GREAT program and totally the way to go...

FiReC · 03-31-2003, 09:38 PM

and whose going to share movies they can't even play? why not just imbed a url popup into playable movies?

The Machine · 03-31-2003, 09:56 PM

For those that haven't noticed - this thread is about protecting MPEG-1 and AVI (DivX) videos, not wmv

SteveLightspeed · 03-31-2003, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FiReC
and whose going to share movies they can't even play? why not just imbed a url popup into playable movies?

Hi FiRec...imbeded url's can be stripped out of the headers if not protected.

Gutterboy · 03-31-2003, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Machine
For those that haven't noticed - this thread is about protecting MPEG-1 and AVI (DivX) videos, not wmv

What sort of encryption algorithm did you use, and how do we know its strong? Proprietary algorithms have a history of faliure.

03-31-2003, 11:45 PM

so are you telling me that if I grab an AVI movie from XYZ's member area, burn it on a CD and go to a friend's to use it as a warmup for an orgy, it will launch an IE window with the signup page instead of playing in my quicktime?

What about other OSs and vid players??

I don't get it.

04-01-2003, 12:02 AM

considering so many vid player proggies overwrite the default media associations, I think it's pretty dangerous for the decryption plugin to only support Windows Media Player and "BSPlayer and MicroDVD", which I haven't heard yet. What about Real Player?

Maybe I am just not bright enough to understand this.

04-01-2003, 12:04 AM

plus for that price I'd hire a few programmers to work out the same thing for me, and save probably a few grant on the run.

ownerland · 04-01-2003, 12:06 AM

Great

erotictrance · 04-01-2003, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Machine

Hehe, thank you for posting this in my thread, Tucker - very thoughtful of you. However, these are 2 quite different propositions. You are reselling the M$ DRM, which works for WMV files only, and has its faults, both as a business model and security wise. At the same time, our system protects MPEG-1 and AVI (including DivX) files. It is a unique, in-house developed product that will appeal to people who don't want to get tied in a proprietary video format and possibly be gouged for much more money in the future by the format's owner.

Obviously adult webmasters are interested in secure formats, but there are a couple of problems with your claims:

1) There are no major security problems with Windows DRM as of yet. That's not to say there won't be any problems in the future, but monitor any pirate board for any length of time and you'll see them bitching about Windows DRM --- constantly. They don't have much luck with it.

Yes, there was an early crack on audio, not video, but you still had to pay and that issue was addressed. And even that crack was a major pain in the ass for the most savy hackers.

2) Certainly you must know that bandwidth is a major concern for most adult webmasters? And that the WMV file format is preferable for this reason alone --- even without DRM?

Unless you have somehow reinvented the AVI and MPEG format, those files sizes are usually way too large, especially if you're salting P2P networks for sales and the like. Maybe Divx is better (and some major sites are using DRM versions of that), but the potential bandwidth bills are a concern. How do your file sizes compare to the WMV format?

Personally, I'll take my chances on Microsoft, as many major adult webmasters have. I also know some major sites are converting from Real to WMV so that they can take advantage of Windows DRM.

Tucker, I haven't heard of you until now, but I'll check it out.

The Machine · 04-01-2003, 11:25 AM

Thanks to everyone for the feedback.

I think I clarified some major points. This is a great piece of software and people who seriously mean business will see the value in it.

If you have any further questions regarding the product, want to see the live demo and discuss the system's features and why it is a better option for the paysite membership model than other propositions, please contact me personally and I'll be glad to help.

JJMedia · 04-02-2003, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Machine

The product protects MPEG-1 and AVI (including DivX) files.

Why doesnt it support MPEG-2 ?
Then i would be interested.

MPEG-1 is so 80's........

steffie · 04-02-2003, 02:07 AM

uh, thats steep
we only using wmv realisticly..

03-31-2003, 04:38 PM	#1
The Machine Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 859	Announcement: Protect Your Videos And Increase Conversions And Member Retention! Hi Everybody, We've got some exciting news for you. ITDSoft is proud to announce the release of its brand new Video Content Protection and Digital Rights Management system - the <i><b>S</i></b>player SecureVideo System (www.secureyourmedia.com) The idea is simple - when using our product, your movie files can be viewed only by active members of your site. Once a member cancels their membership, they lose the ability to view the already downloaded videos. When they attempt to play the files, the sign-up page of your site (or any URL of your choice) is opened in their browser and they are prompted to renew their membership. The result is that your content will be protected from p2p file sharing and leeching members that cancel as soon as they have downloaded all your videos. Thus, you will enjoy a boost in conversions and member retention! The product is specifically designed with the adult industry in mind and is very easy to use both on the server side and the client side. All files are encrypted on the server so you don't have to upload gigs of content. A powerful proprietary encryption algorithm is used to ensure the maximum security of your content. Batch encryption makes using the system a breeze - you can encrypt 1 or a 1000 files at a time (as well as entire folders with video files). You don't even need to set up a separate database with your members' usernames and passwords. The system can work with your existing database (or password file). The product protects MPEG-1 and AVI (including DivX) files. It works on all versions of Windows (95, 98, NT, Me, 2000 and XP) and with all versions of Windows Media Player (6.4, 7, 8, 9). It even works with other popular Windows-based players like BSPlayer and MicroDVD. The server side of the system works on all types of servers - FreeBSD, Linux, Windows, etc. We have prepared a live online demo which illustrates how the system works on the client (surfer) side. As part of the demo, you will be able to upload (and encrypt) your own video files, install the client side plug-in (a 482 KB download) and see for yourself how the product works, and what happens when the membership is canceled. We would be glad to answer any questions that you might have regarding the product. Take advantage of this unique opportunity to protect your valuable video content and increase your revenues! Regards, Paul info at secureyourmedia.com __________________ Complex, large-scale, multi-platform custom programming. icq # 106 769 997

03-31-2003, 05:54 PM	#7
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Interesting __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

03-31-2003, 07:25 PM	#12
Wiseman Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,990	WOW!! PRETTY FUCKING PRICEY!!! ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THIS!!!!! TUCKER'S SHIT WORKS!!!!! Tucxker knows his shit!!!!!!!!! So Check out Tuckers shit!!!! Fuck the other guys over priced shit!!! And he even has nice web sites so you can look at it and see it to!!! AMAZEING!!!! Kinda pisses me off when people come in and try to fucking Charge an arm and a leg for shit that really doesnt cost anything close to that kinda $$$ to do what they are selling!!!! __________________ []E-mail: [email protected][]ICQ: 109726012[*]AIM: QbWiseman

03-31-2003, 07:31 PM	#14
Just Mike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a land FAR FAR away Posts: 3,726	Like most people in the industry I'd feel a bit safer with a company that has a strong reputation and solid people behind it like Playa, Tuck and Oy. ....NO DISRESPECT "THE MACHINE" I just don't know your company. Besides...come on...Playasolutions ( www.instantdrm.com) has been kickin' ass with DRM forever....you guys are jumping on the bandwagon a little late aren't ya? Not to mention your outrageous prices...I think you forgot we are in an economic solwdown. __________________ EMAIL: [email protected] / ICQ: 56205262 AWEMPIRE

03-31-2003, 07:43 PM	#17
The Machine Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 859	different strokes for different folks. the people who understand my proposition and why it is <i>unique</i> will see the value in it. good luck to everyone though __________________ Complex, large-scale, multi-platform custom programming. icq # 106 769 997

03-31-2003, 04:47 PM	#2
The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,306	Clicks the screenshots/demo link... No Screenshots. No Demo. Nowhere to register for a demo.

03-31-2003, 04:53 PM	#4
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	Looks good..

03-31-2003, 05:11 PM	#6
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	If it is all that is cracked up to be.. is excellent... that would be amazing! I hope is real and I hope it works as good as it sounds..

03-31-2003, 06:26 PM	#8
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Be straight up and tell us how much is it? And don't give us contact me mucky muck. Post it.

03-31-2003, 07:08 PM	#11
tucker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA Posts: 584	IF YOU WANT A SIMPLE AND EASY WAY TO DRM YOUR CONTENT AND HAVE IT CONTINUE TO MAKE MONEY FOR YOU CHECK OUT www.instantdrm.com $99 flat fee per month ofr 3 months and then $199 per month thereafter...all you can eat. We have been in the adultbiz for over 3 years na dare sick and tired of people comming in with rediculous pricing and models that make no sense. If u want to know more about DRM check out our resource site at www.drmdaily.com or email me. tucker at playasolutions.com l8tr

03-31-2003, 07:46 PM	#19
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,039	I agree with Wiseman. Sounds to me like you are trying to charge $10K - $20k a pop for software that cost you next to nothing to write. I know Tucker personally; I've known him for over a year and I spent the weekend with him in Burbank a few weeks ago. It's not often that someone impresses me in this business, but Tucker is one of the few who have. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to get my popcorn. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

03-31-2003, 07:58 PM	#22
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Tucker is my dad

03-31-2003, 09:21 PM	#23
FiReC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Land o Nubiles Posts: 2,350	can anyone setup MS DRM if they have a windows media server? __________________ www.nubilefilms.com \| www.nubiles.net \| www.anilos.com \| tubescript.nubiles.net \| icq4162727

03-31-2003, 09:31 PM	#24
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	DRM is the way to go if you want to re-capture lost revenue off the P2P networks out there. Let the P2P freebees burn and churn your content all day long now... At the end of the day you still make money. InstantDRM.com is the only full end to end and plug and play solution that I have seen out there (as of yet) GREAT program and totally the way to go... __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

03-31-2003, 09:38 PM	#25
FiReC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Land o Nubiles Posts: 2,350	and whose going to share movies they can't even play? why not just imbed a url popup into playable movies? __________________ www.nubilefilms.com \| www.nubiles.net \| www.anilos.com \| tubescript.nubiles.net \| icq4162727

03-31-2003, 09:56 PM	#26
The Machine Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 859	For those that haven't noticed - this thread is about protecting MPEG-1 and AVI (DivX) videos, not wmv __________________ Complex, large-scale, multi-platform custom programming. icq # 106 769 997

03-31-2003, 11:45 PM	#29
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	so are you telling me that if I grab an AVI movie from XYZ's member area, burn it on a CD and go to a friend's to use it as a warmup for an orgy, it will launch an IE window with the signup page instead of playing in my quicktime? What about other OSs and vid players?? I don't get it.

04-01-2003, 12:02 AM	#30
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	considering so many vid player proggies overwrite the default media associations, I think it's pretty dangerous for the decryption plugin to only support Windows Media Player and "BSPlayer and MicroDVD", which I haven't heard yet. What about Real Player? Maybe I am just not bright enough to understand this.

04-01-2003, 12:04 AM	#31
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	plus for that price I'd hire a few programmers to work out the same thing for me, and save probably a few grant on the run.

04-01-2003, 12:06 AM	#32
ownerland So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 153	Great

04-01-2003, 11:25 AM	#34
The Machine Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 859	Thanks to everyone for the feedback. I think I clarified some major points. This is a great piece of software and people who seriously mean business will see the value in it. If you have any further questions regarding the product, want to see the live demo and discuss the system's features and why it is a better option for the paysite membership model than other propositions, please contact me personally and I'll be glad to help. __________________ Complex, large-scale, multi-platform custom programming. icq # 106 769 997

04-02-2003, 02:07 AM	#36
steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	uh, thats steep we only using wmv realisticly.. __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm