Tech SATA vs SAS vs SSD hard drives. - GoFuckYourself.com

RummyBoy · 03-18-2015, 10:24 PM

Im getting some superb results on some SAS drives on my server.

How do you guys find the performance of SAS HDs versus SATA HDs?

Wouldn't SSD be a lot faster than even SAS?

Focus · 03-18-2015, 11:07 PM

Yes it would but the price would be different

i love my SaS(15k rpm) on my server as well!

2MuchMark · 03-18-2015, 11:30 PM

Don't even bother with SATA's or anything else. SSD drives are more expensive but really worth the price. I swapped the old HD in my iMac27 and it cold-boots to a full desktop in 6 seconds. Not from sleep - I mean a true, cold boot. Crazy fast.

sandman! · 03-19-2015, 12:09 AM

SSD is the way to go unless you need a ton of space 1tb+

The Duck · 03-19-2015, 04:22 AM

If you are not using an SSD for your operating system at this point you are missing out big time.

RummyBoy · 03-19-2015, 05:29 AM

Im talking about in a Dedicated Server or a VPS for that matter...... which do you choose?

Ferus · 03-19-2015, 05:42 AM

Depends on what is needed.
A db server should cache most in ram anyway, and an applionserver have more use of CPU

What is the mainroll of the server?

HomerSimpson · 03-19-2015, 07:45 AM

SSD is the way to go... at least for OS and mysql... you could store other files on HDDs...

RummyBoy · 03-19-2015, 09:00 AM

Are any of you guys running your SQL and OS on SSD for your server then?

Will is serve your web pages fast? Is it actually showing that?

RummyBoy · 03-19-2015, 11:51 AM

Speaking of laptops......

Can any of you recommend the fastest 500 GB SSD hard drive for a laptop?

iwantchixx · 03-19-2015, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RummyBoy

Speaking of laptops......

Can any of you recommend the fastest 500 GB SSD hard drive for a laptop?

Samsung Evo 840/850 - don't question, just buy

install the samsung magician software, enable the speedup stuff and you will be wondering how you ever did without one.

iwantchixx · 03-19-2015, 12:56 PM

as for server

SSD = good for mostly reads and ultimate speed. These drives can still handle a lot of writes, but why push your luck if your doing lots of logging and constant writing. We got a raid 0 with 4 drives going so fast that our network is the only bottleneck haha

Sas = good for all around with lots of writing due to its longevity

dirtymind · 03-24-2015, 02:22 AM

It is simple, huge space needed don't go ssd because of the price, write read speed needed, then ssd is the king. of course you will need a fast network connection too or that will slow the whole process down and some good ram and cpu is also a must.

amvcdotcom · 03-24-2015, 04:35 AM

ssd all the way

RummyBoy · 03-24-2015, 05:47 AM

Well im about to put one in my laptop - I'm trying to add the Samsung 850 Evo 500gb.

However, mine is a 64bit windows and 64bit processor.

Is that all you need for SATA III compatibility?

RummyBoy · 03-26-2015, 06:10 AM

BUMP for an answer....

KillerK · 03-26-2015, 08:51 AM

I noticed a huge speed improvement in mysql related things. If the server doesn't have enough ram (swamping tables to disk)...

Otherwise serving photos I can't see it making much of a difference. Atleast until more people have Google Fiber.

iwantchixx · 03-26-2015, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RummyBoy

Well im about to put one in my laptop - I'm trying to add the Samsung 850 Evo 500gb.

However, mine is a 64bit windows and 64bit processor.

Is that all you need for SATA III compatibility?

The two have nothing to do with each other.

Throw it in, use a UEFI (if your bios supports it) windows install and once into a working windows from the ssd, install samsung magician and turn on all the speedup stuff you find.

Then reboot and from cmd prompt type:

PHP Code:


			
fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify

here are the two possible results:

PHP Code:


			
DisableDeleteNotify = 1 = TRIM support disabled



DisableDeleteNotify = 0 = TRIM support enabled

If enabled, carry on and enjoy lighting speed haha

more info on uefi:

UEFI Bootable USB Flash Drive - Create in Windows

03-18-2015, 10:24 PM	#1
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Focus Last of a dying breed. Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 669	Yes it would but the price would be different i love my SaS(15k rpm) on my server as well!

03-19-2015, 05:29 AM	#6
RummyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,157	Im talking about in a Dedicated Server or a VPS for that matter...... which do you choose?

03-19-2015, 05:42 AM	#7
Ferus Bye - Left to do stuff Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 4,108	Depends on what is needed. A db server should cache most in ram anyway, and an applionserver have more use of CPU What is the mainroll of the server?

03-19-2015, 09:00 AM	#9
RummyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,157	Are any of you guys running your SQL and OS on SSD for your server then? Will is serve your web pages fast? Is it actually showing that?

03-19-2015, 11:51 AM	#10
RummyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,157	Speaking of laptops...... Can any of you recommend the fastest 500 GB SSD hard drive for a laptop?

03-19-2015, 12:56 PM	#12
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	as for server SSD = good for mostly reads and ultimate speed. These drives can still handle a lot of writes, but why push your luck if your doing lots of logging and constant writing. We got a raid 0 with 4 drives going so fast that our network is the only bottleneck haha Sas = good for all around with lots of writing due to its longevity

03-24-2015, 02:22 AM	#13
dirtymind Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,348	It is simple, huge space needed don't go ssd because of the price, write read speed needed, then ssd is the king. of course you will need a fast network connection too or that will slow the whole process down and some good ram and cpu is also a must. __________________ skype: codercarlos

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amvcdotcom i like kitties. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle & NC Posts: 886	ssd all the way __________________ Email only: allen at/ amvc dotcom

03-24-2015, 05:47 AM	#15
RummyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,157	Well im about to put one in my laptop - I'm trying to add the Samsung 850 Evo 500gb. However, mine is a 64bit windows and 64bit processor. Is that all you need for SATA III compatibility?

03-26-2015, 06:10 AM	#16
RummyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,157	BUMP for an answer....

03-26-2015, 08:51 AM	#17
KillerK Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,406	I noticed a huge speed improvement in mysql related things. If the server doesn't have enough ram (swamping tables to disk)... Otherwise serving photos I can't see it making much of a difference. Atleast until more people have Google Fiber.