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ExcellentNudes · 09-30-2013, 09:40 AM

I did the numbers and if I purchased 100,000 uniques from a reputable broker like JuicyAds, at .10% conversion that's 100 sales.

Assuming that my site is well designed, niche targeted, my servers fast, and my content good, is that a realistic number?

1/10% is a relatively small number, but if you scale it up over 1 million uniques then it starts to turn a decent profit.

Manfap · 09-30-2013, 09:47 AM

what does 100k unique cost?

If people could make alot more than what they sell it for.. they wouldn´t sell it.

mopek1 · 09-30-2013, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Manfap

what does 100k unique cost?

Exactly ... I'd have to know that first.

ExcellentNudes · 09-30-2013, 09:48 AM

I've seen anywhere from $0.20 CPM to $4 CPM from reputable brokers.

Stephen · 09-30-2013, 09:49 AM

Is what you're asking, "is a 1:1000 conversion rate possible with bought traffic?"

What is your current rate with in-house traffic?

trevesty · 09-30-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Manfap

what does 100k unique cost?

If people could make alot more than what they sell it for.. they wouldn´t sell it.

Not true. When I (rarely) put up brokers, it's because I have white space on my site that could be more efficiently used monetized than being blank.

I still get sales from the actual galleries.

Regardless, you wouldn't have people making six figures/year as media buyers if what you said was true.

If Facebook could make more money off of their traffic, they wouldn't sell it!!11!!!

DamianJ · 09-30-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by trevesty

If Facebook could make more money off of their traffic, they wouldn't sell it!!11!!!

Er, they don't...

They let you buy advertisements for their members. That isn't selling you traffic.

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trevesty · 09-30-2013, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Er, they don't...

They let you buy advertisements for their members. That isn't selling you traffic.

Splitting hairs.

pornguy · 09-30-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by trevesty

Not true. When I (rarely) put up brokers, it's because I have white space on my site that could be more efficiently used monetized than being blank.

I still get sales from the actual galleries.

Regardless, you wouldn't have people making six figures/year as media buyers if what you said was true.

If Facebook could make more money off of their traffic, they wouldn't sell it!!11!!!

Then you should find a sponsor to make you a custom banner for said white space. In fact a few of them and rotate the banners.

bean-aid · 09-30-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ExcellentNudes

I did the numbers and if I purchased 100,000 uniques from a reputable broker like JuicyAds, at .10% conversion that's 100 sales.

Assuming that my site is well designed, niche targeted, my servers fast, and my content good, is that a realistic number?

1/10% is a relatively small number, but if you scale it up over 1 million uniques then it starts to turn a decent profit.

I would expect 0 sales on that traffic. Zilch, nada, nothing.

You can expect 1 sale for 50,000 tube surfers that actually *watch* your vid. Then a small percent will click to your site, and then some will pay. I have found that number to be 1:50000.

Why am I comparing tube surfers to bought traffic? Because that is what you are buying minus the surfer (or likely bot) watching your vid first. Watching your vid first means you have a somewhat interested surfer. So 50,000 xhamster surfers watching *your* vid will make you a sale... 100,000 purchased hits (likely with no game plan) will make you 0 sales.

Save your money and do something else.

ExcellentNudes · 09-30-2013, 01:03 PM

1:50,000 is better than .001% by 100%.

tokmansta · 09-30-2013, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Manfap

what does 100k unique cost?

If people could make alot more than what they sell it for.. they wouldn´t sell it.

I beg to differ...

DamianJ · 09-30-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by trevesty

Splitting hairs.

Not at all. Someone said that facebook sell traffic. They don't. No hairs to split. It was an outright lie. I corrected him. End of.

DBS.US · 09-30-2013, 10:37 PM

If people could buy traffic that made them money, why don't they buy it all?

bean-aid · 09-30-2013, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ExcellentNudes

1:50,000 is better than .001% by 100%.

I've read this a few ways... sitting up right, standing on my hands, and sitting on my head.

All three ways of reading your statement I come to the same conclusion.... whaaat??

I don't know what it is you are saying

Here... read this for same analysis of numbers:
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19817442&postcount=36

freecartoonporn · 09-30-2013, 10:55 PM

If people could make alot more than what they sell it for.. they wouldn´t sell it.

Paully · 09-30-2013, 11:56 PM

Yeah, I've asked this before and it just doesn't make sense for someone to sell traffic to a broker when they can make 3x that being an affiliate. Cost per impression like popups has horrible ratios.

1:10000 would be a little closer until your popups have saturated. Then maybe nothing. Takes a lot of time sifting through visitor behavior and finding out what works and from where to make it any better.

1:1000 would be amazing for affiliates with niche related, targeted traffic.

Nothing beats putting up regular hi quality content and submitting your sitemap. That does better than 1:100 for me.

If the user has an interest they will find you. If you can give them a better experience they'll even pay you.

Paully

mopek1 · 10-01-2013, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Paully

submitting your sitemap.

Submitting your sitemap where?

Paully · 10-01-2013, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Submitting your sitemap where?

I'd start with google, yahoo and bing(i guess yahoo and bing are the same now) but the more the merrier.

Femjoy Michael · 10-01-2013, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ExcellentNudes

I did the numbers and if I purchased 100,000 uniques from a reputable broker like JuicyAds, at .10% conversion that's 100 sales.

Assuming that my site is well designed, niche targeted, my servers fast, and my content good, is that a realistic number?

I agree with one of the other posters that said a more realistic number is 1:10,000 at best. 1:1000 is possible and it is more dependent on how the unique is being sent from a juicyad. For example, if those 100k uniques are primed-for-sale clicks as opposed to anything with a "free" lead.

Have a look at how the dating guys are buying the ads. They know best how to monetize and optimize for that kind of traffic.

Markul · 10-01-2013, 02:46 AM

Questions like these come up all the time and they get a ton of stupid replies (no offence intended to anyone). Really. It's down to skill. Like everything else in life. That usually comes from practice and lots of it + talent.

PLENTY of people are making TONS of money buying traffic. Can someone who's never bought traffic before make a profit in the first go? Absolutely not (unless they do something nasty like selling malware of course), you will loose a lot of money to begin with, unless you have an experienced and talented media buyer sitting next to you, teaching you the ropes.

That's why mainstream companies pay a lot of money for experienced people to handle their advertisement and why big companies have their own in-house guys...

mopek1 · 10-01-2013, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Paully

I'd start with google, yahoo and bing(i guess yahoo and bing are the same now) but the more the merrier.

Oh. I thought the search engines just crawled everything anyway without needing a sitemap. Do you think it really makes a difference?

mopek1 · 10-01-2013, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Femjoy Michael

Have a look at how the dating guys are buying the ads. They know best how to monetize and optimize for that kind of traffic.

Where can we find out how they do it?

Manfap · 10-01-2013, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul

Questions like these come up all the time and they get a ton of stupid replies (no offence intended to anyone). Really. It's down to skill. Like everything else in life. That usually comes from practice and lots of it + talent.

PLENTY of people are making TONS of money buying traffic. Can someone who's never bought traffic before make a profit in the first go? Absolutely not (unless they do something nasty like selling malware of course), you will loose a lot of money to begin with, unless you have an experienced and talented media buyer sitting next to you, teaching you the ropes.

That's why mainstream companies pay a lot of money for experienced people to handle their advertisement and why big companies have their own in-house guys...

Exactly.. its a skill. thats why I said
'If people could make alot more than what they sell it for.. they wouldn´t sell it.'

Money can be made, but you need to be ontop of it. Easy to see profits wiped out with a few bad buys.

ErectMedia · 10-01-2013, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul

PLENTY of people are making TONS of money buying traffic. Can someone who's never bought traffic before make a profit in the first go? Absolutely not (unless they do something nasty like selling malware of course), you will loose a lot of money to begin with, unless you have an experienced and talented media buyer sitting next to you, teaching you the ropes.

That's why mainstream companies pay a lot of money for experienced people to handle their advertisement and why big companies have their own in-house guys...

+1

bean-aid · 10-01-2013, 05:25 AM

How do you quote sigs?

Carry on ;)

EddyTheDog · 10-01-2013, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ExcellentNudes

Assuming that my site is well designed, niche targeted, my servers fast, and my content good, is that a realistic number?

This is the key line in your post - I would say no its not a good option for an affiliate, however as the site owner you might be able to do it - How much faith do you have in your site?..

Also, your site may be niche targeted but can you say the same for the traffic you will be buying? - The more 'micro niche' the better but then you will have problems buying the required amount of traffic - Then it would be tempting to purchase more general traffic and your ratios drop.....

Its a balancing act and it will take time to get it right - Test, test and test again - I hope you have more money and patience than me though

...

fuzebox · 10-01-2013, 09:16 AM

It's like a pro media buying convention in here

mopek1 · 10-01-2013, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

It's like a pro media buying convention in here

Everyone's an expert. So basically don't buy traffic unless you are a pro.

Zeiss · 10-01-2013, 09:46 AM

Buying traffic is not easy. You have to optimize constantly. Consider that.

trevesty · 10-01-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Then you should find a sponsor to make you a custom banner for said white space. In fact a few of them and rotate the banners.

That's precisely what I do now.

thumbuilderic · 10-01-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Zealotry

Buying traffic is not easy. You have to optimize constantly. Consider that.

Agreed. And when you've found a good recipe, the offer changes and you have to make a new one work!

Jman · 10-01-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Everyone's an expert. So basically don't buy traffic unless you are a pro.

Speaking of pro... How is pr0 doing, anyone as any news?

DVTimes · 10-01-2013, 11:59 AM

bump.............

DBS.US · 10-02-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Everyone's an expert. So basically don't buy traffic unless you are a pro.

If I was a pro, I would buy all the traffic and be Rich!

mopek1 · 10-02-2013, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

If I was a pro, I would buy all the traffic and be Rich!

Good point.

So far, people who are not experienced or experts shouldn't buy traffic because they are wasting money.

But ...

People who are experts should buy it all and promote their won stuff, not work for others.

Good thread.

09-30-2013, 09:40 AM	#1
ExcellentNudes Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 21	Is This A Realistic Conversion Rate I did the numbers and if I purchased 100,000 uniques from a reputable broker like JuicyAds, at .10% conversion that's 100 sales. Assuming that my site is well designed, niche targeted, my servers fast, and my content good, is that a realistic number? 1/10% is a relatively small number, but if you scale it up over 1 million uniques then it starts to turn a decent profit.

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ExcellentNudes Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 21	Re: I've seen anywhere from $0.20 CPM to $4 CPM from reputable brokers.

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