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johnnyloadproductions 07-06-2012 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19047520)
I'm off for a bit of a rest guys, new comments on the blog have been approved, some funny ones there. There won't be too much killing action over the weekend as the card companies and Paypal teams are off until Monday.

We're working hard on a collaboration system for everyone else getting involved.

More updates coming soon.

I'd like to compliment the subtle humor in the posts, e.g.:

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Toucan Sharing had such a nice name, such a lovely bird. In the case of this particular Toucan, it?s about to become extinct!
and...

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PigSonic: I?ll huff and I?ll puff and I?ll blow your house down!
lastly...

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FileRose.com: Doesn?t smell so good.
FileRose has a nice name but it doesn?t smell anything like a rose, in fact it smells like ??
They all make me chuckle. In all this, don't forget to show some humanity by making us grin.
Thanks for doing this as you are showing resolve and force that hardly anyone on here would do, or could do.

BradBreakfast 07-06-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19044415)
We think we've blocked the initial attack, there are two of them going on. Is the site loading now for people ?

Use CloudFlare.com, it's easy to setup. Delete the direct.your-domain.com DNS entry.


Brad

DukeSkywalker 07-06-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19047141)
Theo....Eric....

For Gods sake pin this thread....show some fucking support and leadership here will ya.

amen
ds

DukeSkywalker 07-06-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19047264)
Here is the settlement: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u5xc0xsw0rnx9ak/4JvrzADupd

Some real scum bag shit in there.

yea totally. That homo is helping himself & oron
& throwing oron's customers & the adult industry under the bus
ds

B.Barnato 07-06-2012 08:23 PM

Amazing work!

Far-L 07-06-2012 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gozarian (Post 19047269)
TorrentFreak intimates that a deal has been struck between the parties to settle the case. If true this is troubling especially in light of what TorrentFreak is reporting, that Oron agreed to Liberty's offer of "some public relations help for Oron in order to minimize the chance of other lawsuits being brought against it”.

If true, all I can say is - WTF! :mad:

Corbin Fisher is a business and they have to operate like a business just like you in your biz. They will settle if it is in their interest to do so. Don't criticize them for it or expect that they should have to spend all that time and money to protect your business interests. Better to thank them for providing a road map that will make it cheaper and easier for anyone else that wants to follow a similar course of action.:2 cents:

Edit: Although the lying to act like Oron is legit going forward does sound very lame indeed.

SplatterMaster 07-06-2012 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyStephans (Post 19047400)
I am guessing that some of you guys have never been in a case where they negotiate back and forth like this. Offer one thing, withdraw it, offer another, and back and forth.

Few main things to keep in mind.

1 is that the offer was withdrawn in 1-2 days, and if you look at the dates you see the Randazza guy was hard as heck on Oron after those offers in court.

2 is that Randazza is paid by Liberty. While he would love to do this for all website owners his first obligation is to Liberty and to maximize the settlement in favor of the client that is paying him (even if not perfect for ALL webmasters).

3 We all could have hired him BEFORE Liberty did and we ALL could have gone after Oron before Liberty did. We didn't - and for those of you that visit the XBiz forum you might remember that back in April there was a topic going about many people putting in money for a suit like this and only ONE person ever sent a dime. Just one person... seems hundreds of webmasters had the chance to get involved and didn't.

4 Strategically, Liberty / Randazza might be pulling the smartest move available. $400,000 settlement is one thing. A $250,000 with Oron that includes all user data might very well be better... because that user data would do two things... bring future settlements with direct uploaders and take those direct uploaders out of actions forever!

He might be the smartest damn lawyer in the business - but he is acting in the best interests of his client as he is obligated to do - and that might not seem great to you and me, but damn he sure is taking care of the guys PAYING HIM.

I understand most of that Jimmy. And I agree, no one else deserves a dime in this case as Corbin Fisher spent the money to start it. But the first negotiation was offered up by Corbin Fisher and it basically stated, give us $500,000 and we?ll lie to make you look good. When it should have stated, give us $500,000 and we wont sue your ass for millions. In the first negotiation Corbin Fisher looks no better than Oron. Is that the way these cases work? If it is, and I was a Federal Judge, I?d fine them both for wasting taxpayers money and throw that shit out of court.

Gozarian 07-06-2012 11:04 PM

Edit: Although the lying to act like Oron is legit going forward does sound very lame indeed.

I could give a shit about a settlement - it is this bullshit I am referring to cash for prevarication.

Mutt 07-07-2012 12:29 AM

i understand lawsuits, i come from a family of lawyers and judges but this is disappointing - my hope was that for once a copyright owner would put a foot on the neck of one of these thieving bastards and show no mercy, no settlement, take it the distance with a judge deciding in their favor and bankrupting Oron into oblivion.

19teenporn 07-07-2012 12:51 AM

Bumping...

DWB 07-07-2012 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19047567)
Corbin Fisher is a business and they have to operate like a business just like you in your biz. They will settle if it is in their interest to do so. Don't criticize them for it or expect that they should have to spend all that time and money to protect your business interests. Better to thank them for providing a road map that will make it cheaper and easier for anyone else that wants to follow a similar course of action.:2 cents:

Edit: Although the lying to act like Oron is legit going forward does sound very lame indeed.

yes, lying for oron, or even offering to lie for oron, is what really caused me to lose all respect. that is pretty disgusting really.

oron is the worst, and they host a lot of child porn. who in their right mind is going to stick their neck out for such an operation?

xenigo 07-07-2012 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19047718)
yes, lying for oron, or even offering to lie for oron, is what really caused me to lose all respect. that is pretty disgusting really.

oron is the worst, and they host a lot of child porn. who in their right mind is going to stick their neck out for such an operation?

Here's what kinda made me scratch my head; Lying makes no difference. You are either facilitating piracy, or you aren't. There's no gray area there.

Since when is a pirate company going to come right out and say "you know, we pride ourselves on our honesty and being completely forthcoming to everyone accusing us of intellectual property infringement that could end up costing us millions... and you're right, we have been paying for uploads and charging for access. When we went into this business, we knew DMCA compliance would not be possible if we actually wanted to make money hand over fist... What is the name we should write on the check?"

I would never expect that to happen. I don't know how lying changes anything.

Three.Thousand 07-07-2012 02:49 AM

Who would listen to these lies?
What authority do they have?
The "lies" could only be about their content, or their experience with oron, not everyone elses content or experience with oron. sounds useless to me.

DWB 07-07-2012 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 19047725)
Here's what kinda made me scratch my head; Lying makes no difference. You are either facilitating piracy, or you aren't. There's no gray area there.

Since when is a pirate company going to come right out and say "you know, we pride ourselves on our honesty and being completely forthcoming to everyone accusing us of intellectual property infringement that could end up costing us millions... and you're right, we have been paying for uploads and charging for access. When we went into this business, we knew DMCA compliance would not be possible if we actually wanted to make money hand over fist... What is the name we should write on the check?"

I would never expect that to happen. I don't know how lying changes anything.

Fisher lying for Oron is facilitating piracy. We all know that Oron will lie their asses off, as does every other pirate. So I don't care what Oron has to say. But I honestly didn't expect that from Corbin Fisher. I held him in a higher regard, but I was mistaken it seems.

Paul Markham 07-07-2012 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19047567)
Corbin Fisher is a business and they have to operate like a business just like you in your biz. They will settle if it is in their interest to do so. Don't criticize them for it or expect that they should have to spend all that time and money to protect your business interests. Better to thank them for providing a road map that will make it cheaper and easier for anyone else that wants to follow a similar course of action.:2 cents:

Edit: Although the lying to act like Oron is legit going forward does sound very lame indeed.

Exactly. If Corbin Fisher start tracing the addresses of the uploaders, the letters can be churned out all day long. No whining about an IP address, they have IP, Email and Bank Details, maybe more. The payback will be huge. This will send a warning shot to all uploaders that the file lockers will sell your ass down the river to save their.

Rinse and Repeat. Is all that's required here.

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19047666)
i understand lawsuits, i come from a family of lawyers and judges but this is disappointing - my hope was that for once a copyright owner would put a foot on the neck of one of these thieving bastards and show no mercy, no settlement, take it the distance with a judge deciding in their favor and bankrupting Oron into oblivion.

I believe you are a content owner who has had his content pirated. you now know the name of the lawyer who can do this. So I expect your suit will be the next to hit the news. :upsidedow

If not don't criticise others for doing what they do with their money.

garce 07-07-2012 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by garce (Post 19045229)
Why is this not a sticky? Nail this bitch to the board.

I'm quoting myself in a rare moment of lucidity.

Stick this fucking thread to the top of the board until every "alleged" illegal site is gone. GFY is (pushing my luck here...) all but useless. This board needs a rallying point, a focus. Selling skins to pay for hosting (like you need it) is not a long-term business model. Might as well sell this bitch to Manwin (did I miss something?) Or just man-up, eat some red meat, and grow a spine. Who even owns this place now? Playboy? AFF? Manwin?

Decide what side of the argument you're on.

This site is (was) the main hub of the internet adult community. It killed PornCity (which was a great, yet smallish, community). Make a fucking stand, or change your stinking soiled panties and admit defeat.

GFY is rapidly approaching uselessness. I only come here to type random bullshit and nonsense now. I USED to do business here. A LOT of business. I won't give anyone here the time of day anymore, though.

This thread SHOULD be stickied. Fuck me. Ban me. Support Adult King.

DWB 07-07-2012 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19047751)
Exactly. If Corbin Fisher start tracing the addresses of the uploaders, the letters can be churned out all day long. No whining about an IP address, they have IP, Email and Bank Details, maybe more. The payback will be huge. This will send a warning shot to all uploaders that the file lockers will sell your ass down the river to save their.

Rinse and Repeat. Is all that's required here.

Uploaders... uploaders not so much. Many of them are not even from the USA. LOTS of them are from China, India, and so on. However, all of this is limited to who uploaded Liberty Media's content. Not content in general. So it is possible they will nail a handful in the USA as well, but are these guys going to have MORE assets than Oron? They discovery process would have to start all over again to see who is worth going after, yet they already know Oron has 3 million in Hong Kong, and a lot more frozen in other accounts, such as Paypal, CCbill, Alert Pay, and so on.

Downloaders... well, that is another story. If the final outcome allows Liberty Media access, as it is stated in the current offers, then they can swap links and seed videos where they can track the downloaders to sue them.

Lets take this debate to a new thread. It's starting to side track AK47's original thread of slaying file lockers. :2 cents:

xenigo 07-07-2012 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19047769)
Downloaders... well, that is another story. If the final outcome allows Liberty Media access, as it is stated in the current offers, then they can swap links and seed videos where they can track the downloaders to sue them.

This is what I've been wanting to do for a while. Want to set up some bait file lockers? We can exclude foreign IP's... we could even target the most wealthy communities for the highest chance we'd be able to successfully litigate against people with something to lose.

I would LOVE to take a few homes from these fuck faces.

We could turn this into a data-mining litigation gold mine.

topnotch, standup guy 07-07-2012 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Three.Thousand (Post 19047738)
Who would listen to these lies?
What authority do they have?
The "lies" could only be about their content, or their experience with oron, not everyone elses content or experience with oron. sounds useless to me.

Clearly Oron's legal team sees differently, otherwise they would never sign on to this agreement.

The real question is what will hold more weight in the eyes of a future jury, Corbin Fisher's original allegations, or their post settlement sweet talk?

That is where things will get real interesting.
.

topnotch, standup guy 07-07-2012 03:52 AM

duplicate

xenigo 07-07-2012 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 19047783)
The real question is what will hold more weight in the eyes of a future jury, Corbin Fisher's original allegations, or their post settlement sweet talk?

The fact that Oron's attorneys were even willing to talk about a settlement right away speaks volumes. If they were innocent, who would be willing to throw down $50k AND send $400k worth of traffic? Not an innocent company.

DWB 07-07-2012 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 19047793)
The fact that Oron's attorneys were even willing to talk about a settlement right away speaks volumes. If they were innocent, who would be willing to throw down $50k AND send $400k worth of traffic? Not an innocent company.

The majority of the file lockers are guilty as hell. That is why Oron is trying to settle and that is why they are losing billing options, thanks to AK47. Pirated porn, pirated movies, pirated software, pirated music, and child porn.

I'm sure after AK47 is done with them all, we'll see who's legit and who wasn't.

AGS-17 07-07-2012 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19047233)
Oh I know

I broke a story on it

http://www.mikesouth.com/avn/avn-own...ing-site-6046/

Theo has since denied that Vasillis is anything more than just a name for paperwork for many companies but the question that remains is why is the real owner hiding behind vasillis if this is the case? But lets not derail this thread.

OMG! This is huge!

I talked to a few friends and found out that Vasillis is an employee of Alex XE (owner of the Webazilla), who also lives in Cyprus. Uploading.com is hosted there.

So, correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like owner of AVN and GFY also owns one of the major file sharing sites? Can it be true?

AdultKing - what happened to Uploading.com PayPal? It looks like they still have it but hid it pretty well. Can you comment on this?

So what, major players in our industry are the very people behind the file lockers?

Then it begins to look a lot like we, honest to God webmasters are being used by the captains of industry in a plot to eliminate competition to let them run a couple of huge "surviving" file lockers! Can it be true?

All this begins to smell bad and when it smells bad, it usually is bad.

DWB 07-07-2012 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGS-17 (Post 19047806)
I talked to a few friends and found out that Vasillis is an employee of Alex XE (owner of the Webazilla), who also lives in Cyprus. Uploading.com is hosted there.

So, correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like owner of AVN and GFY also owns one of the major file sharing sites? Can it be true?

According to Theo, Vasillis is a nominee director who anyone can use to front their company. Standard stuff for offshore corporation formation when someone needs to be detached from the company or is trying to hide. I believe Theo on this. But who the man is behind Vasillis, is the real question.

However, if you google his name, he only shows up for 2 or 3 companies (I did not do a in depth search, just a quick one), and two of those are AVN and Uploading.com, the other is the firm he supposedly works for. So logic would say that whoever is hiding behind him for those two sites, is the same guy. Otherwise, you would have lots of other companies using him, as you find for most other nominee directors.

I think the whole thing stinks to the high heavens, and the owner of AVN, whoever that may be, is also involved in file sharing and fucking the industry in the ass. Perhaps illegal file sharing is where the money came from to buy AVN. The irony of that. However, the industry is so fucking desperate that even if that is proven to be true, they will still support AVN and license their content to tube sites, all the while wondering why their sales are diminishing as the pirate and unethical operations are growing, acquiring more and more failing businesses along the way.

I'm sure we can all speculate who the person hiding behind Vasillis is, but we'll never know until someone gets hacked or someone leaks a document connecting the dots. But even then, it won't even matter. Bro drinks and pats on the back for everyone!

longdongsilver 07-07-2012 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by inthecrack (Post 19046909)
I told you you'd be eating crow.

onthecrack??

What are you talking about? Just visited depositfiles and tested it out.

1. their paypal is working fine
2. they seem to have introduced extra billing options?

The other big ones seem to be working totally fine too??

How did bitshare come back?? how can you lose PP and then get it back??

When the biggest have fallen then get back to me with some crow on the menu. Until then stfu.

If they are all there in 6 months working as usual then you will get used to the notion that the big players get to do wtf they want whilst the medium to small people get crushed out. This is true in the real world and on gfy.

I get that starting with the little easy targets is good fun and seems to deliver some satisfaction, and perhaps you can set some precedents. The danger is that i guess all the traffic just flocks to the biggest ones and makes them even more of a money mine for paypal and less reason incentive close them down than ever. Also they are preparing and opening new billing options.

Fine, yes i understand it may take longer to take some of the larger ones down, but don't start with the eating crow shit until something has happened to one of them.

DF is on the radar for ak now so i would put full resources into that one, that will show there is some hope to getting rid of these lockers.

Barefootsies 07-07-2012 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19047839)
I'm sure we can all speculate who the person hiding behind Vasillis is, but we'll never know until someone gets hacked or someone leaks a document connecting the dots.

But even then, it won't even matter. Bro drinks and pats on the back for everyone!


DWB 07-07-2012 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longdongsilver (Post 19047864)
DF is on the radar for ak now so i would put full resources into that one, that will show there is some hope to getting rid of these lockers.

You assume there is no plan and that because DP isn't closed today that there is nothing being done.

Give the guy a fucking break, he's only been at this for one week. And within that week he has been a wrecking machine who has exceeded all expectations. And he has 3 more confirmed months to go, possibly more now that he is putting a team together to expedite some of the process.

I am confident that if these sites, no matter how big or small, do not change how they operate, and are dirty, they will be dealt with accordingly. But unlike a screaming child who needs his milk right this second, I understand some things take time. And when banks, paypal, visa, and master card are involved, it takes meetings, legal council, a lot of investigating, and more time.

Gozarian 07-07-2012 05:27 AM

I fired up the wayback machine and mysteriously stuff that was there 3 months ago is now gone. Someone has been making serious efforts to clean their trail.

Gozarian 07-07-2012 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19047887)
And when banks, paypal, visa, and master card are involved, it takes meetings, legal council, lot of investigating, and more time.

Buy a few shares and attend the annual meeting of your favorite processor enabling ip infringement. The WSJ and mainstream press would run out of ink talking about shareholder complaints of these companies profiting from illegal content, cp and bestiality.

Barefootsies 07-07-2012 05:44 AM

Oh No You Didn't...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19047233)
Oh I know

I broke a story on it

http://www.mikesouth.com/avn/avn-own...ing-site-6046/

Theo has since denied that Vasillis is anything more than just a name for paperwork for many companies but the question that remains is why is the real owner hiding behind vasillis if this is the case? But lets not derail this thread.



The "mouth of the south" strikes again!
:2 cents:

longdongsilver 07-07-2012 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGS-17 (Post 19047806)
OMG! This is huge!

I talked to a few friends and found out that Vasillis is an employee of Alex XE (owner of the Webazilla), who also lives in Cyprus. Uploading.com is hosted there.

So, correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like owner of AVN and GFY also owns one of the major file sharing sites? Can it be true?

AdultKing - what happened to Uploading.com PayPal? It looks like they still have it but hid it pretty well. Can you comment on this?

So what, major players in our industry are the very people behind the file lockers?

Then it begins to look a lot like we, honest to God webmasters are being used by the captains of industry in a plot to eliminate competition to let them run a couple of huge "surviving" file lockers! Can it be true?

All this begins to smell bad and when it smells bad, it usually is bad.


THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I SUSPECTED !!!!!!!!!

The big tube owners were already linked before to owning some of the huge file lockers. That news was all hushed up and forgotten about.
The big tube owners run the adult industry in full. They simply want to crush out the small file lockers and other large ones they don't own. Hence driving the last of the traffic they don't control directly under their control.

These little shitty small filelockers are cannon fodder. Nothing more.. 100% include uploading.com as number 1 target now we've found out this out. I detest this manipulation it fucking stinks. Take that one down asap.

Nothing in the alexa 1000 has been taken out yet. The giant ones that would make any real difference are getting more powerful by the day now and you all think something is actually happening other than what your masters want to happen????

Paypal need to be bitch slapped here, they will take down sites not making them huge rev in 1 day for having illegal files, but leave the large ones in place. That is totally unacceptable and totally unproductive because these users all just go to the larger ones.

Let's do some research into who is really behind these giant lockers and focus on the ones that are trying to manipulate this entire game.

Pour everything into uploading.com and DF, filefactory, everyone that is an accepted filehost on this planetsuzy board. Those are the ones taking some sales.

These people have accumulated all this wealth by raping the industry and now have bought everything up even the networks and boards that are meant to be places real adult webmasters can meet, discuss and read about things that benefit the industry as a whole.

It pisses me off when people are posting in this thread when they have played a large part in this rape and pillage. Knowing that secretly they are fucking laughing at us.

DWB 07-07-2012 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gozarian (Post 19047901)
I fired up the wayback machine and mysteriously stuff that was there 3 months ago is now gone. Someone has been making serious efforts to clean their trail.

I've noticed that too. LOTS of them are covering their tracks right now. They thought they were untouchable before. Now they see they are not, it's clean up time, and fast!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Gozarian (Post 19047915)
Buy a few shares and attend the annual meeting of your favorite processor enabling ip infringement. The WSJ and mainstream press would run out of ink talking about shareholder complaints of these companies profiting from illegal content, cp and bestiality.

I have a sneaking suspicion it's too late for that. Mainstream media already knows.



Quote:

Originally Posted by longdongsilver (Post 19047937)
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I SUSPECTED !!!!!!!!!

The big tube owners were already linked before to owning some of the huge file lockers. That news was all hushed up and forgotten about.
The big tube owners run the adult industry in full. They simply want to crush out the small file lockers and other large ones they don't own. Hence driving the last of the traffic they don't control directly under their control.

Thus why you have not seen one large company step in to thank any anti-piracy efforts or support them. They only want you to join their system so they can in turn profit off you even more.

Any of them not associated with piracy (not many) should at the very least be thanking AK or sending a small donation to help it continue so that larger lockers can be handled. But that isn't happening. Gee, wonder why?


Quote:

Originally Posted by longdongsilver (Post 19047937)
These little shitty small filelockers are cannon fodder. Nothing more.. 100% include uploading.com as number 1 target now we've found out this out. I detest this manipulation it fucking stinks. Take that one down asap.

Nothing in the alexa 1000 has been taken out yet. The giant ones that would make any real difference are getting more powerful by the day now and you all think something is actually happening other than what your masters want to happen????

Let's do some research into who is really behind these giant lockers and focus on the ones that are trying to manipulate this entire game.

Pour everything into uploading.com and DF, filefactory, everyone that is an accepted filehost on this planetsuzy board. Those are the ones taking some sales.

These people have accumulated all this wealth by raping the industry and now have bought everything up even the networks and boards that are meant to be places real adult webmasters can meet, discuss and read about things that benefit the industry as a whole.

It pisses me off when people are posting in this thread when they have played a large part in this rape and pillage. Knowing that secretly they are fucking laughing at us.

Give it time man. Like I said, it's only been a week, and it's only one guy. This is going to take time.

Barefootsies 07-07-2012 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19047964)
Any of them not associated with piracy (not many) should at the very least be thanking AK or sending a small donation to help it continue so that larger lockers can be handled. But that isn't happening. Gee, wonder why?

How many people in THIS THREAD, @ the time of my post, have bothered to donate a dime?? Just curious.

It's easy to throw up some praise replies, make a few posts, and endless virtual high fives. However, how many people doing all of this celebrating, kudos, and blowing sunshine up the guy's ass for his one man mission have bothered to put their money where their mouth is?

Food for thought.

:2 cents:

DarkJedi 07-07-2012 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longdongsilver (Post 19047864)
onthecrack??

What are you talking about? Just visited depositfiles and tested it out.

1. their paypal is working fine
2. they seem to have introduced extra billing options?

The other big ones seem to be working totally fine too??

How did bitshare come back?? how can you lose PP and then get it back??

When the biggest have fallen then get back to me with some crow on the menu. Until then stfu.

If they are all there in 6 months working as usual then you will get used to the notion that the big players get to do wtf they want whilst the medium to small people get crushed out. This is true in the real world and on gfy.

I get that starting with the little easy targets is good fun and seems to deliver some satisfaction, and perhaps you can set some precedents. The danger is that i guess all the traffic just flocks to the biggest ones and makes them even more of a money mine for paypal and less reason incentive close them down than ever. Also they are preparing and opening new billing options.

Fine, yes i understand it may take longer to take some of the larger ones down, but don't start with the eating crow shit until something has happened to one of them.

DF is on the radar for ak now so i would put full resources into that one, that will show there is some hope to getting rid of these lockers.

Depositfiles are removing content within minutes of receiving DMCA notification and terminate uploader accounts.
They are also working close with content producers, giving them the means to remove uploaded content.

It's a pretty good start.

DWB 07-07-2012 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19047974)
How many people in THIS THREAD, @ the time of my post, have bothered to donate a dime?? Just curious.

It's easy to throw up some praise replies, make a few posts, and endless virtual high fives. However, how many people doing all of this celebrating, kudos, and blowing sunshine up the guy's ass for his one man mission have bothered to put their money where their mouth is?

Food for thought.

:2 cents:

Not enough. :2 cents: Everyone should give something, even if it's only $25 or some back links and tweets.

I see it like this, he is currently one self funded man who has been at this for a week. Imagine what he may be able to do with a small team and proper funding.

There is no question he has the right contacts and the ears of people in the right positions at the right companies. He only needs to fine tune the operation and scale it, and he can do some serious damage.


Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 19047996)
Depositfiles are removing content within minutes of receiving DMCA notification and terminate uploader accounts.
They are also working close with content producers, giving them the means to remove uploaded content.

It's a pretty good start.

Is that their normal behavior or just what is happening now? DP is large and has a lot to lose, so I would assume they are going to do everything in their power to clean up their act right now.

AdultKing 07-07-2012 07:32 AM

Hows it all going guys, I just had a great dinner and some time out from all of this.

I'd like to thank Nathan/Fabian for a very generous donation to the cause and his kind words of support for what is being done.

I'd also like to report that we have half finished a collaboration system and I'm still looking for people who might be interested in becoming more directly involved, so send me a mail via the contact form on http://stopfilelockers.com

Seems FileRose.com have switched to another Paypal account, I'm investigating it now.

JimmyStephans 07-07-2012 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19047974)
How many people in THIS THREAD, @ the time of my post, have bothered to donate a dime?? Just curious.

It's easy to throw up some praise replies, make a few posts, and endless virtual high fives. However, how many people doing all of this celebrating, kudos, and blowing sunshine up the guy's ass for his one man mission have bothered to put their money where their mouth is?

Food for thought.

:2 cents:

I did...

In fact, I did $500 on the 5th

FoxtrotAlpha 07-07-2012 07:39 AM

So I just got here and read most of this thread.

I do despise almost every file host for one reason, they fund pirates and knowingly do this to survive.

However, GFY owns filesonic and uploading? Did I understand correctly? This makes me question if adultking is going to even target uploading (filesonic isn't used anyway).

I have strong connections in the filehost industry (ironic considering I hate most of them) and I can tell you now, every single one of them is shitting bricks.

They're in a state of panic, trying to cover up every last piece of evidence that they have affiliate programs and pay uploaders. So you're doing a great job at taking them down, they appear to be dropping like flies.

Though they will simply be replaced until you take down one of the big hosts, I suggest you put all effort into targeting a single large host rather than many small hosts.

P.S. I shouldn't have called it an industry, none of them are professional enough to even be classed as businesses.

DWB 07-07-2012 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19048037)

I'd like to thank Nathan/Fabian for a very generous donation to the cause and his kind words of support for what is being done.

Good to see him put his money where his mouth is. I believe he is the first of the big boys to donate, no?

mikke 07-07-2012 07:45 AM

http://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/220552354108411904

megaupload will return as kim said.. ouch!

DWB 07-07-2012 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikke (Post 19048055)
http://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/220552354108411904

megaupload will return as kim said.. ouch!

1) Who is that stunner in your avatar?

2) Kim is a dreamer. They will just switch the game and the rules on him. And the more he rubs it in their face, the harder he is going to take it in the ass when they finally are able to stick him with something.

AdultKing 07-07-2012 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19048048)
Good to see him put his money where his mouth is. I believe he is the first of the big boys to donate, no?

Nautilus from Ferrocash has also committed an ongoing generous donation.

FoxtrotAlpha 07-07-2012 07:56 AM

Even if megaupload returned, it'd be in minimal amounts of traffic.

Uploaders are what make a filehost big these days, megaupload has none and will have none if it reopens because it won't pay.

Pirates these days just want a quick buck, they'll use the filehost which pays most, that won't be megaupload. So nothing to worry about.

johnnyloadproductions 07-07-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19048066)
1) Kim is a dreamer. They will just switch the game and the rules on him. And the more he rubs it in their face, the harder he is going to take it in the ass when they finally are able to stick him with something.

Despite all these qualities that work against him, unfortunately the guy is very smart. But if things keep moving along right now this may not go through as he thinks.

johnnyloadproductions 07-07-2012 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19047974)
How many people in THIS THREAD, @ the time of my post, have bothered to donate a dime?? Just curious.

It's easy to throw up some praise replies, make a few posts, and endless virtual high fives. However, how many people doing all of this celebrating, kudos, and blowing sunshine up the guy's ass for his one man mission have bothered to put their money where their mouth is?

Food for thought.

:2 cents:

And here are my 2cents :2 cents: which you seem to include in 2 out of 3 posts.
:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents: There, that offsets me a bit.

How about this, if you have any knowledge or experience with dmca, copyright, or know how on these businesses consider writing about them and then linking to stopfilelockers.com. I've already taken steps toward this along with 1 or 2 others on here.

donating money is what lazy involved people do, investing time and real effort as if this project will get done is better though.
Offer to write an article for King. My :2 cents:

Barefootsies 07-07-2012 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19048083)
donating money is what lazy involved people do, investing time and real effort as if this project will get done is better though.


I am sure AdultKing enjoys working 24/7/365 on this for your/industry's benefit for free.

Because... ya know... that is how most successful businesses are run (/sarcasm). Sadly, even a non-profit still requires financial donations to keep operating. I do not know that AdultKing can feed his family, while investing 100% of his own time,... with the articles some stranger on a message board writes and links to his site.

:2 cents:

johnnyloadproductions 07-07-2012 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19048095)

I am sure AdultKing enjoys working 24/7/365 on this for your/industry's benefit for free.

Because... ya know... that is how most successful businesses are run. Sadly, even a non-profit still requires financial donations to keep operating. I do not know that AdultKing can feed his family with some stranger writing articles and linking his site.

:2 cents:

Alright, slap me back in the face. :upsidedow

At least I'm giving more than my virtual high fives on here, give me that. :)

You're not stupid (your longevity has proved that) so you do what you think works best and argue for what you think works best.

Barefootsies 07-07-2012 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19048098)
At least I'm giving more than my virtual high fives on here, give me that. :)

Agreed. You are still contributing to help his/the/industry cause. Your heart is in the right place fine sire.

:thumbsup

DWB 07-07-2012 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19048069)
Nautilus from Ferrocash has also committed an ongoing generous donation.

:thumbsup


Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19048074)
Despite all these qualities that work against him, unfortunately the guy is very smart. But if things keep moving along right now this may not go through as he thinks.

Obese and arrogant he is, stupid he is not. But like all of us know, the game changes in a blink of an eye. And unless he has an affiliate program where he pays them to upload all the pirated content again, he won't get very far as there is no incentive for anyone to fill his servers with content, and in turn making it difficult to get traffic. Can he go legal and be used for legit storage? Sure. And I hope he does. There is a use and demand for legal file sharing.

longdongsilver 07-07-2012 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19048037)
Hows it all going guys, I just had a great dinner and some time out from all of this.

I'd like to thank Nathan/Fabian for a very generous donation to the cause and his kind words of support for what is being done.



Seems FileRose.com have switched to another Paypal account, I'm investigating it now.

these kind words.....let me have a guess...

"here is some more cash (0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the money i make from illegal files in one day) to take out my competition.. i want every last drop of traffic and you are just the moron i need to help me with that.... by the way reach under and stroke my balls whilst i push it deep in like that....thats better good boy.

the cause??????????? what is this cause?????? take down all of his sites that would be the best thing he can do for the cause i'm interested in. His cause is 'his cause' nothing more that is blindingly obvious to anyone.

Filerose?????????.... yeah quick can't let that one survive that's killing the industry. You are a shill for these big tube owners i can see this clearly now.

Thanking the flabby pest whom has nearly taken every drop of adult traffic through the use of illegal scenes playing all over his tubes and running after some nothing site.???

That fat turd owes me 700 bucks, i literally smashed my laptop into pieces after watching his keynote speech.

We didn't want to remove all the illegal full scenes from our tubes because the traffic would just go elsewhere" and then we could not profit from it

SO WE KNOW THERE ARE TONS OF ILLEGAL FULLS SCENES THAT WE COULD REMOVE AT ONCE....BUT WE WILL NOT DO IT. EVEN FILE LOCKERS CANT GET AWAY WITH SAYING THIS KIND OF SHIT.

i then expected all hell to break loose on the video... what happen next ...nothing a bunch of quivering fucking pussies sitting there being told i am choosing to butt rape you because it benefits me - so there eat shit suckers.

You are thanking the person that said that AK where are your fucking high morals now??? you total moronic fool. You would love to be a bro, your boasting about being part of this old school tie network is just the sort of thing a bro wanna be would say.


AK --- you are the either the most fucking stupid deluded tool on this planet else a shill for these tube owners. There are only 2 possibilities.

You HATE the owners of these tiny file lockers and thank the person whom has gained most from ripping other adult sites and webmasters off on this board. You have a bunch of fucking morons following you but i will not be one of them i will continue to post here with the real the real issue, this is a red herring thread to the real issues. I LOVE filelockers compared to tubes, i fucking enjoy the fact entire brazzers site rips can be found on there. If every file locker just did brazzers site rips i would have posters of file lockers logos on my bedroom walls.

People on here are gutless and moronic. Flabian and the bro's run this show, 90% on this thread are probably in their pockets.

I will not be sit here and watch the biggest culprits of copyright theft get thanked and other get on their high horse about shitty little filelockers i don't care at all that people here want to shut me up talking about tubes. I will mention them at every opportunity and insist focus upon the largest lockers cos i know these ppl will only be running those ones at the very top. File fucking rose is not one of them.

In fact any large filelocker you don't put on your site is probably one they own.

I challenge one person here to tell me that flabian and the huge tube network he runs has done less damage that fucking file rose or any other fucking file locker.

I will not praise him for helping at all. I assumed him or some other person of this ilk would be behind this entire thing anyway.

AK i was hoping to give you some kind of break , your initial self important bullshit annoyed me but then i though perhaps you had some high moral code to go with that so perhaps you were not so bad. Now with your latest post i see you have no moral code and are what i first thought, either a total self important moron or a shill for the tube bro's.

I will not let you use these people for others selfish gain. I will try to wake them up at every opportunity. I care not that they will hate me for it.

I'm sorry for my language but seriously there is something very strange and wrong with the way ppl think in this place.


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