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webair · 02-16-2012, 02:49 PM

EXPERIENCE THE FASTEST DISK IN THE CLOUD - PERIOD! --- Brought to you by WEBAIR.COM

A true Game Changer - Webair's FusionCloud Servers provide the fastest disk speeds available in the Cloud - PERIOD.
Combining the advantages of Webair's Cloud Servers, including hardware, network, and disk redundancy, each FusionCloud server includes a FusionIO volume guaranteed to deliver 10,000 IOP/s!

Other cloud services include no more than 100 IOP/s which are not suitable for resource intensive applications such as database servers, video encoding, big data analytics, and industrial content delivery.

WEBAIR FusionCloud - BETTER, STRONGER, FASTER!

Webair.com FusionCloud servers not only provide speeds faster than other cloud providers, but also faster than those of large and powerful physical servers.
One Webair FusionCloud server can deliver faster disk speeds than almost 50 SSD hard disks combined.

Webair FusionCloud is Perfect for your resource intensive applications:

LARGE DATABASE SERVERS:
No need to setup complex multi-server database cluster. Scale up to 8 CPUs, 144GB of ram, and 10K IOP/s. Perfect for database servers.

VIDEO ENCODING:
Simultaneously encode multiple videos without reaching disk limitations.

BIG DATA ANALYTICS:
Seek and read data faster and keep your data in the cloud.

WEB SERVERS:
Never worry about spikes in traffic again and replace multiple load balanced physical servers with single instances. Perfect for custom CDN nodes.

Webair FusionCloud technology is thousands of times faster than all Cloud solutions available today!
CLICK HERE to learn more or CONTACT OUR SALES TEAM and customize your own FusionCloud servers with any combination of CPU, Memory, Disk, and Bandwidth you require.

*****

This can be officially be considered: "Another Webair Success Story!"

RELATED STORIES:

http://www.fusionio.com/press-releas...sion-iomemory/
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...139433238.html
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/web...ory-2012-02-16
http://www.dailymarkets.com/stock/20...sion-iomemory/
http://br.sys-con.com/node/2169732
http://newsblaze.com/story/201202160.../topstory.html

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19teenporn · 02-16-2012, 02:57 PM

Sounds promising

undersoul · 02-16-2012, 03:07 PM

very impressive! 10,000 IOPs? Damn!

Adraco · 02-16-2012, 03:08 PM

Sounds good, I guess everything comes with a pricetag. Is it expensive to use?

webair · 02-16-2012, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adraco

Sounds good, I guess everything comes with a pricetag. Is it expensive to use?

Prices are listed on the pages my man =)

http://www.webair.com/webhosting-cloud-fusion.html

http://www.webair.com/webhosting-dedicated-fusion.html

As always, custom plans and pricing are available - email: [email protected]

Relentless · 02-16-2012, 03:38 PM

Nice looking system. Congrats.

Christina T. · 02-16-2012, 04:15 PM

Can i switch over to this new service from the dedicated servers i have with you? I don't necessarily want to switch all of them just a few to test it out.

This looks really nice! Great news you guys!

RyuLion · 02-16-2012, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by undersoul

very impressive! 10,000 IOPs? Damn!

DVTimes · 02-16-2012, 04:46 PM

can i ask what advantages there are?

i can see it being good for firms for staff.

but what uses can you see it being used for?

webair · 02-16-2012, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes

can i ask what advantages there are?

i can see it being good for firms for staff.

but what uses can you see it being used for?

Webair FusionCloud is Perfect for your resource intensive applications:

LARGE DATABASE SERVERS:
No need to setup complex multi-server database cluster. Scale up to 8 CPUs, 144GB of ram, and 10K IOP/s. Perfect for database servers.

VIDEO ENCODING:
Simultaneously encode multiple videos without reaching disk limitations.

BIG DATA ANALYTICS:
Seek and read data faster and keep your data in the cloud.

WEB SERVERS:
Never worry about spikes in traffic again and replace multiple load balanced physical servers with single instances. Perfect for custom CDN nodes.

FreeHugeMovies · 02-16-2012, 05:45 PM

Mike gives me wood!

sandman! · 02-16-2012, 05:45 PM

would it not be cheaper to use do raid 10 array's of ssd's ?

WebairGerard · 02-16-2012, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman!

would it not be cheaper to use do raid 10 array's of ssd's ?

This is all about performance. SSDs are not even in the same league. Just one Webair FusionCloud server can deliver faster disk speeds than almost 50 SSD hard disks combined.

sandman! · 02-16-2012, 08:12 PM

i guess there are some people that can use that then

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebairGerard

This is all about performance. SSDs are not even in the same league. Just one Webair FusionCloud server can deliver faster disk speeds than almost 50 SSD hard disks combined.

WebairGerard · 02-16-2012, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman!

i guess there are some people that can use that then

Yeah it's a great solution for resource intensive applications, big data analytics, and database servers. The benchmarks are amazing.

sandman! · 02-16-2012, 09:33 PM

4 ssd's in raid 10 is enough for most database needs tho

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebairGerard

Yeah it's a great solution for resource intensive applications, big data analytics, and database servers. The benchmarks are amazing.

rowan · 02-16-2012, 10:01 PM

Is the 10,000 IOPS per physical server (shared between multiple customers) or per customer?

BIGTYMER · 02-16-2012, 10:04 PM

This thread gives me wood!

Brad Mitchell · 02-16-2012, 10:15 PM

This is great technology, we've been using FusionIO in dedicated solutions for years. Bringing those IOPs to a cloud environment is brilliant. To help everyone here understand exactly how profound this can be, I have a client example I like to give. Specifically, a 300gb FIO deployment for a client where we 10gig NICd a server and pushed 3.5 gigabit without the server being higher than a load of 1. Worth noting, the client only had 3.5 gigabit of traffic for that data. I had calculated that we could have pushed 15+ gigabit if the demand was there. This replaced more than a dozen servers in a load balanced cluster using regular SATA RAID1s.

IOPs (input output per second)
7200rpm 100
15000rpm 300
FusionIO and other similar products up to 100,000s

Because they haven't explained it yet.. its like this: the PCIe storage card is functioning at the speed of the system bus, mo longer bottlenecked by SAS or SATA controller limitations. That combined with 50000 to more than 100000 IOP options makes this unbeatable. See, when you read the 5-12ms random seek times on drives that is representative of them not being under load. On a webserver, they sure as heck are especially with lots of connections and that figure increases. The random access times on these are a fraction and don't really change notably with high session demands.

And yes, killer on databases, media, all file types. If you have an IO problem, this will kill it.

Kudos Webair!

Brad

FlowerKid · 02-16-2012, 11:04 PM

This solution is so fast, it even delivers a webpage before a user is able to click on the link to request it.

Brad Mitchell · 02-16-2012, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlowerKid

This solution is so fast, it even delivers a webpage before a user is able to click on the link to request it.

If it had FastTCP the pages would load before regular TCP/IP even finished its handshake and started transferring the first bytes. But back to what you said, its just about so fast its nearly psychic... LOL a true storage paradigm shift.

Brad

warik · 02-16-2012, 11:59 PM

Good system!!! Thanks

martinsc · 02-17-2012, 12:02 AM

that's pure server porn!

rowan · 02-17-2012, 01:08 AM

*watches the database server next to me with its LED status light almost permanently on*

*listens to the mechanical drives thrashing*

*re-reads the specs in this thread, starts fapping*

WebairGerard · 02-17-2012, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

And yes, killer on databases, media, all file types. If you have an IO problem, this will kill it.

Kudos Webair!

Brad

Thanks Brad!

Like you said, this great technology and true storage paradigm shift.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

*watches the database server next to me with its LED status light almost permanently on*

*listens to the mechanical drives thrashing*

*re-reads the specs in this thread, starts fapping*

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinsc

that's pure server porn!

So true! Plus the fact that this can scale up to 8 CPUs, 144GB of ram, and 10K IOP/s (Perfect for database servers), this is pure server porn to us technology cravers!

martinsc · 02-17-2012, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebairGerard

So true! Plus the fact that this can scale up to 8 CPUs, 144GB of ram, and 10K IOP/s (Perfect for database servers), this is pure server porn to us technology cravers!

Jacob[Soft] · 02-17-2012, 09:43 AM

very promising

webair · 02-17-2012, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christina T.

Can i switch over to this new service from the dedicated servers i have with you? I don't necessarily want to switch all of them just a few to test it out.

This looks really nice! Great news you guys!

Christina! Yes of course! Contact me or sales directly and we will get you going. Great question thanks for inquiring =)

undersoul · 02-17-2012, 10:59 AM

question - can you set this up on one of my physical servers with you (non cloud)? I have an upcoming project that could really benefit from those kind of speeds.

webair · 02-17-2012, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by undersoul

question - can you set this up on one of my physical servers with you (non cloud)? I have an upcoming project that could really benefit from those kind of speeds.

Of course! We have been offering Fusion IO disks to our dedicated, & colo clients for that matter, for years now.

Please contact me directly and we will get you going.

Another GREAT question, keep em coming!

Christina T. · 02-17-2012, 12:25 PM

E-mailing you now thank you so much you guys are the best

sixpack · 02-17-2012, 02:58 PM

Once again I know I'm in good hands and always able to use the most cutting edge solutions! Keep it up guy's your the best.

webair · 02-19-2012, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixpack

Once again I know I'm in good hands and always able to use the most cutting edge solutions! Keep it up guy's your the best.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christina T.

E-mailing you now thank you so much you guys are the best

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Our new 'Fusion Cloud Technology' is a game changer. Not only do you no longer have to worry about the limitations, or bottlenecks of traditional servers, you no longer have to call your host to add more ram, storage, CPU resources, as it can all be done on the fly.

With FusionIO Built into our already ROBUST CLOUD TECHNOLOGY, you have all the advantages of being on the cloud only at FASTER SPEEDS!

You need to try this =) - [email protected]

Klen · 02-19-2012, 12:12 PM

Now if only some host would do benchmarking of several nosql databases ;)

borked · 02-19-2012, 02:15 PM

Mike,
can you hit me up on email (see sig). I don't have your email and I need to ask you something directly...

thanks
Andy

borked · 02-19-2012, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Now if only some host would do benchmarking of several nosql databases ;)

hey, I know where that idea came from

alextokyo · 02-19-2012, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

This is great technology, we've been using FusionIO in dedicated solutions for years. Bringing those IOPs to a cloud environment is brilliant. To help everyone here understand exactly how profound this can be, I have a client example I like to give. Specifically, a 300gb FIO deployment for a client where we 10gig NICd a server and pushed 3.5 gigabit without the server being higher than a load of 1. Worth noting, the client only had 3.5 gigabit of traffic for that data. I had calculated that we could have pushed 15+ gigabit if the demand was there. This replaced more than a dozen servers in a load balanced cluster using regular SATA RAID1s.

IOPs (input output per second)
7200rpm 100
15000rpm 300
FusionIO and other similar products up to 100,000s

Because they haven't explained it yet.. its like this: the PCIe storage card is functioning at the speed of the system bus, mo longer bottlenecked by SAS or SATA controller limitations. That combined with 50000 to more than 100000 IOP options makes this unbeatable. See, when you read the 5-12ms random seek times on drives that is representative of them not being under load. On a webserver, they sure as heck are especially with lots of connections and that figure increases. The random access times on these are a fraction and don't really change notably with high session demands.

And yes, killer on databases, media, all file types. If you have an IO problem, this will kill it.

Kudos Webair!

Brad

webair · 02-20-2012, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked

Mike,
can you hit me up on email (see sig). I don't have your email and I need to ask you something directly...

thanks
Andy

Email sent...

Klen · 02-20-2012, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked

hey, I know where that idea came from

It came right out of my ass

webair · 02-21-2012, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

It came right out of my ass

and a bump

Fletch XXX · 02-21-2012, 12:05 PM

have hosted with webair for over a decade, where all the haters at?

haha keep up good work guys.

Brad Mitchell · 02-21-2012, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

have hosted with webair for over a decade, where all the haters at?

haha keep up good work guys.

Fuck the haters!

Webair does a great job and is clearly on top of great new technology.

Brad

WebairGerard · 02-22-2012, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

Is the 10,000 IOPS per physical server (shared between multiple customers) or per customer?

The 10,000 IOPs is per guaranteed per Cloud Server or instance. So it cannot be shared by anyone else. The actual hardware per physical node is capable of 250,000 IOPS+ and is never oversubscribed.

alextokyo · 02-22-2012, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

have hosted with webair for over a decade, where all the haters at?

Right here yo. Fuck Mike. Also, Brad Bitchell needs to do something about that horrible receding hairline. Like wearing a turban or something.

WebairGerard · 02-22-2012, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

have hosted with webair for over a decade, where all the haters at?

haha keep up good work guys.

Thanks Fletch!

Vendzilla · 02-22-2012, 01:31 PM

Got to love speed like that, any examples we can look at as to seeing the speed?

2012 · 02-22-2012, 01:39 PM

SGS · 02-22-2012, 02:18 PM

Sounds really great guys.

webair · 02-24-2012, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Got to love speed like that, any examples we can look at as to seeing the speed?

Yes very shortly, we have a third party (neutral company) doing benchmark testing as we speak.

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webair Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 8,531	Experience the fastest disk in the cloud - PERIOD! EXPERIENCE THE FASTEST DISK IN THE CLOUD - PERIOD! --- Brought to you by WEBAIR.COM *A true Game Changer - Webair's FusionCloud Servers* provide the fastest disk speeds available in the Cloud - PERIOD. Combining the advantages of Webair's Cloud Servers, including hardware, network, and disk redundancy, each FusionCloud server includes a FusionIO volume guaranteed to deliver 10,000 IOP/s! Other cloud services include no more than 100 IOP/s which are not suitable for resource intensive applications such as database servers, video encoding, big data analytics, and industrial content delivery. WEBAIR FusionCloud - BETTER, STRONGER, FASTER! Webair.com FusionCloud servers not only provide speeds faster than other cloud providers, but also faster than those of large and powerful physical servers. One Webair FusionCloud server can deliver faster disk speeds than almost 50 SSD hard disks combined. Webair FusionCloud is Perfect for your resource intensive applications: LARGE DATABASE SERVERS: No need to setup complex multi-server database cluster. Scale up to 8 CPUs, 144GB of ram, and 10K IOP/s. Perfect for database servers. VIDEO ENCODING: Simultaneously encode multiple videos without reaching disk limitations. BIG DATA ANALYTICS: Seek and read data faster and keep your data in the cloud. WEB SERVERS: Never worry about spikes in traffic again and replace multiple load balanced physical servers with single instances. Perfect for custom CDN nodes. Webair FusionCloud technology is thousands of times faster than all Cloud solutions available today! CLICK HERE to learn more or CONTACT OUR SALES TEAM and customize your own FusionCloud servers with any combination of CPU, Memory, Disk, and Bandwidth you require. * This can be officially be considered: "Another Webair Success Story!" RELATED STORIES: http://www.fusionio.com/press-releas...sion-iomemory/ http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...139433238.html http://www.marketwatch.com/story/web...ory-2012-02-16 http://www.dailymarkets.com/stock/20...sion-iomemory/ http://br.sys-con.com/node/2169732 http://newsblaze.com/story/201202160.../topstory.html * __________________ ~ Webair Dedicated Cloud Servers™ ~ WEBAIR VSYS™ Virtual Hosting Platform ~ Superior CDN Network ~ ~ Managed Dedicated hosting Specialists ~ DISCOUNT DOMAIN NAMES! ~ WEBAIR FUSION IO MANAGED CLOUD SERVERS! ~ ICQ: 243116321 - TWITTER** - @WEBAIRINC - E-Mail: [email protected] Last edited by webair; 02-16-2012 at 02:50 PM..

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