Some CCBill questions, about rebills... - GoFuckYourself.com

tonyparra · 10-27-2011, 06:12 PM

In the affiliate side on the view program details, theres a section for:
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

Does that mean the site doesn't pay for rebills? Some sponsors have that set at unlimited. Some at 9999,some at 365. Some sponsors are saying they have a 50/50 revshare program, but have this set at zero, so is it by accident or is that purposeful deceit? How can you revenue share without paying for rebills? They should change their signup pages to say one time payout. Anyone else ever check those because i had promoted several that i noticed to have the zero rebills thing after the fact. Thoughts?

raymor · 10-27-2011, 08:51 PM

I don't know, but since noone more knowledgeable replied, I'll hazard a guess. Often, in a database or software where you have a numeric limit, zero is used to represent "unlimited". Zero may in fact mean unlimited rebills, but the system stores a number there, so it can't accept a word such as "unlimited".

That's just a guess, a possibility, since no one replied with a knowledgeable answer

BIGTYMER · 10-27-2011, 09:21 PM

Zero could also mean zero rebills.

bean-aid · 10-27-2011, 10:04 PM

Its been so long I can't remember for ccbill. I thought they displayed the text "unlimited".
My current merchant account, which only I see shows 0 with description 0 means unlimited.

I have a suspicion if you are an affiliate that means 0 rebills.

tonyparra · 10-27-2011, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

Its been so long I can't remember for ccbill. I thought they displayed the text "unlimited".
My current merchant account, which only I see shows 0 with description 0 means unlimited.

I have a suspicion if you are an affiliate that means 0 rebills.

What i suspect also but it not that there are not any rebills with certain programs that bother me its that they advertise 50/50 revshare or something similar. Can this be control on a per affiliate basis? For example a little while ago there was a thread here talking about a program that had great sales and rebills, but when i look at this program in the back end it says (zero)...

epitome · 10-27-2011, 11:18 PM

Don't quote me, but if I remember correctly, if it is setup as a % and has 0 it means all rebills.

For some reason I have that stuck in my head but am not 100% sure. It's been awhile since i've been in the program setup side of CCBILL.

CurrentlySober · 10-28-2011, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Don't quote me, but if I remember correctly, if it is setup as a % and has 0 it means all rebills.

For some reason I have that stuck in my head but am not 100% sure. It's been awhile since i've been in the program setup side of CCBILL.

I think you are correct. I remember the same thing being discussed in the past. The answer was that 0 is correct, meaning there is NO limit to the potential rebills. If it said 3, then that meant that it would only rebill a possible 3 times...

So zero is correct.

pornguy · 10-28-2011, 06:06 AM

He is Correct.. ZERO means ALL rebills.

Should have asked CCBIll this instead.

Jel · 10-28-2011, 06:21 AM

I was gonna go and have a look at the programs I'm with, knowing a specific one that has no rebills, but after 5 minutes fucking around with their wanky system gave up. Christ, what was the criteria for the new look - make it as awkward as fucking possible to see a list of your programs?

signupdamnit · 10-28-2011, 06:22 AM

Lots of bad information here. It should read "Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills". If it reads zero there is a good chance you will NOT get credit for rebills!

Now there was supposedly a bug many years ago which resulted in some programs showing this incorrectly when it was first changed but we are talking 2006 or 2007.

You should contact CCBill and the program owner for confirmation of any site which reads "Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills". You should also consider disclosing it here so others can check their own settings.

CurrentlySober · 10-28-2011, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Lots of bad information here. It should read "Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills". If it reads zero there is a good chance you will NOT get credit for rebills!

And some in your post as well? You sound very sure of yourself?

Why dont YOU contact ccBill and ask them?

TheDA · 10-28-2011, 07:37 AM

"Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills", is certainly one for unlimited rebills.

Zero means you don't get credit for rebills.

Si · 10-28-2011, 07:45 AM

I have: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills

On 3 I know rebill.

Could be a database error though and 0 means unlimited. But isn't displaying proper, or the sponsor you are mentioning is a piece of shit.

Si · 10-28-2011, 07:47 AM

Just found 1 which has this: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

Probably a 1 time join, or a shit company. Or perhaps BOTH!

Jel · 10-28-2011, 08:17 AM

Where the fuck in this shitty ccbill aff area do you see a list of your programs and the %/rebills/etc?

signupdamnit · 10-28-2011, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

And some in your post as well? You sound very sure of yourself?

Why dont YOU contact ccBill and ask them?

It's nothing personal I wasn't calling you out or anything but I am fairly sure because I've seen it before and remember reading all the different discussions on it over the years. I also am an affiliate of nearly 500 ccbill programs and I monitor them carefully so I usually know what is normal and what is unusual.

Jel- in the old affiliate admin it is under tools and then I think something like show program details. I forget the exact wording.

CurrentlySober · 10-28-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

It's nothing personal I wasn't calling you out or anything but I am fairly sure because I've seen it before and remember reading all the different discussions on it over the years. I also am an affiliate of nearly 500 ccbill programs and I monitor them carefully so I usually know what is normal and what is unusual.

OK, sorry mate

Being honest, I had my panties in a wad, from something else that was posted on another forum, so sorry if I sounded 'In Your Face' so to speak...

I simply do remember this exact same thread though - From a few years ago, and it got really heated - Then ccBill came in, and said what I remember... But hey... I could well be wrong...

This is the exact reason why I am 100% self Sufficient these days, and dont rely on any sponsors at all..

Peace

Jel · 10-28-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Jel- in the old affiliate admin it is under tools and then I think something like show program details. I forget the exact wording.

Yeah, was easy to locate in the old admin. No idea if the same function exists in the new though.

TheDA · 10-28-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

Yeah, was easy to locate in the old admin. No idea if the same function exists in the new though.

It's the same.

Jel · 10-28-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

It's the same.

It sort of is, but isn't, although I've now found it, I have to go to "View today's transactions", whereas I'd expect it to be a link in that dashboard (where I currently see a news feed). Once you know, it's easy, but navigation sucks cock upon initial login.

Anyway just to check what the program that gives no rebills displays... oh fucking hell lol, I click on Tools and get an error

An error has occurred. Sorry for the inconvenience.

https%3A%2F%2Fwebadmin.ccbill.com%2Faffiliateadmin %2Freports%2Ftransactions.cgi%3FstartDate%3D201110 28000000%26endDate%3D20111028235959%26apply%3Dlook up

Logout, login, same error

Life. Too short.

CCBILL_James · 10-28-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Lots of bad information here. It should read "Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills". If it reads zero there is a good chance you will NOT get credit for rebills!

Now there was supposedly a bug many years ago which resulted in some programs showing this incorrectly when it was first changed but we are talking 2006 or 2007.

You should contact CCBill and the program owner for confirmation of any site which reads "Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills". You should also consider disclosing it here so others can check their own settings.

Apologies for my delalyed response. Couldn't have said it better myself. That issue mentioned above was actually 2004 though.

TheDA · 10-28-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

It sort of is, but isn't, although I've now found it, I have to go to "View today's transactions", whereas I'd expect it to be a link in that dashboard (where I currently see a news feed). Once you know, it's easy, but navigation sucks cock upon initial login.

Anyway just to check what the program that gives no rebills displays... oh fucking hell lol, I click on Tools and get an error

An error has occurred. Sorry for the inconvenience.

https%3A%2F%2Fwebadmin.ccbill.com%2Faffiliateadmin %2Freports%2Ftransactions.cgi%3FstartDate%3D201110 28000000%26endDate%3D20111028235959%26apply%3Dlook up

Logout, login, same error

Life. Too short.

Ah, we were talking about 2 different things.

tonyparra · 10-28-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CCBILL_James

Apologies for my delalyed response. Couldn't have said it better myself. That issue mentioned above was actually 2004 though.

My biggest issue is not the fact that they dont pay on rebills, its the fact that some that dont pay on them advertise a 50/50 revshare program. I did some digging and found a thread daizzy posted showing lots of ccbill programs that were intentionally or unintentionally configured incorrectly. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=9736...ill+pr ograms

TheDA · 10-29-2011, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

My biggest issue is not the fact that they dont pay on rebills, its the fact that some that dont pay on them advertise a 50/50 revshare program. I did some digging and found a thread daizzy posted showing lots of ccbill programs that were intentionally or unintentionally configured incorrectly. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=9736...ill+pr ograms

Yes, a complete cunt's trick that sullies the CCBill name in my opinion.

I would love for CCBill to be able to take more control over people using their system.

10-27-2011, 06:12 PM	#1
tonyparra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: In your back seat with duck tape Posts: 4,568	Some CCBill questions, about rebills... In the affiliate side on the view program details, theres a section for: Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills Does that mean the site doesn't pay for rebills? Some sponsors have that set at unlimited. Some at 9999,some at 365. Some sponsors are saying they have a 50/50 revshare program, but have this set at zero, so is it by accident or is that purposeful deceit? How can you revenue share without paying for rebills? They should change their signup pages to say one time payout. Anyone else ever check those because i had promoted several that i noticed to have the zero rebills thing after the fact. Thoughts? __________________ High Performance Vps $10 Linode Manage your Digital Ocean, Linode, or Favorite Cloud Server. Simple, fast, and secure Server Pilot

10-27-2011, 08:51 PM	#2
raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	I don't know, but since noone more knowledgeable replied, I'll hazard a guess. Often, in a database or software where you have a numeric limit, zero is used to represent "unlimited". Zero may in fact mean unlimited rebills, but the system stores a number there, so it can't accept a word such as "unlimited". That's just a guess, a possibility, since no one replied with a knowledgeable answer __________________ For historical display only. This information is not current: support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627 Strongbox - The next generation in site security Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids

10-28-2011, 06:06 AM	#8
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	He is Correct.. ZERO means ALL rebills. Should have asked CCBIll this instead. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

10-28-2011, 07:37 AM	#12
TheDA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,665	"Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills", is certainly one for unlimited rebills. Zero means you don't get credit for rebills. Last edited by TheDA; 10-28-2011 at 07:39 AM..

10-27-2011, 09:21 PM	#3
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Zero could also mean zero rebills.

10-27-2011, 10:04 PM	#4
bean-aid So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: the land of woke sleuths Posts: 16,493	Its been so long I can't remember for ccbill. I thought they displayed the text "unlimited". My current merchant account, which only I see shows 0 with description 0 means unlimited. I have a suspicion if you are an affiliate that means 0 rebills.

10-27-2011, 11:18 PM	#6
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	Don't quote me, but if I remember correctly, if it is setup as a % and has 0 it means all rebills. For some reason I have that stuck in my head but am not 100% sure. It's been awhile since i've been in the program setup side of CCBILL.

10-28-2011, 06:21 AM	#9
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	I was gonna go and have a look at the programs I'm with, knowing a specific one that has no rebills, but after 5 minutes fucking around with their wanky system gave up. Christ, what was the criteria for the new look - make it as awkward as fucking possible to see a list of your programs?

10-28-2011, 06:22 AM	#10
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	Lots of bad information here. It should read "Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills". If it reads zero there is a good chance you will NOT get credit for rebills! Now there was supposedly a bug many years ago which resulted in some programs showing this incorrectly when it was first changed but we are talking 2006 or 2007. You should contact CCBill and the program owner for confirmation of any site which reads "Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills". You should also consider disclosing it here so others can check their own settings.

10-28-2011, 07:45 AM	#13
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	I have: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills On 3 I know rebill. Could be a database error though and 0 means unlimited. But isn't displaying proper, or the sponsor you are mentioning is a piece of shit.

10-28-2011, 07:47 AM	#14
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	Just found 1 which has this: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills Probably a 1 time join, or a shit company. Or perhaps BOTH!

10-28-2011, 08:17 AM	#15
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	Where the fuck in this shitty ccbill aff area do you see a list of your programs and the %/rebills/etc?